West Ham United V Fulham Match Thread 01/09/12 Berba on Bench, Richardson starts

[The Bronsons]

We had new players in new positions and no time for them to train together. And we never get anything at West Ham. There'll be time to panic if we play as badly as in the first half in two weeks' time.

[grandad]

We must play Kaca Berb & Rodders. Sidwell is hopeless. Diarra was our best player but can´t do it on his own. Our 2 full backs were penned back in our own half. Lots of work to be done over the next 2 weeks.

[St Eve]

I am going to do my best to pretend this never happened. 2 weeks ago we looked great and today we were bloody awful. Richardson and Sidwell are useless. Bring in Kaka, Frei and Ruiz and hopefully this nightmare is over

[St Eve]

What was really missing today was a playmaker like say Dembele or Murphy

[TonyGilroy]

Let's not forget the many away days we've had like this with Murphy, Dembele and Dempsey all playing.

It's a good time for a two week break for Jol to work out how we play with what we have.

And the Board have four months to consider lessons to be learned for future transfer windows.

[WolverineFFC]

I watched all 90 mns and still can't figure out what formation FFC were in. They didn't seem to be in any organized shape at all. As if 11 guys just showed up to play a Sat morning game of pick up.

Watching Sidwell in place of Dembele in the midfield is going to be rough. Feels kind of like I just traded in my lamborghini and left the lot in a minivan...

[craig10]

I watched all 90 mns and still can't figure out what formation FFC were in. They didn't seem to be in any organized shape at all. As if 11 guys just showed up to play a Sat morning game of pick up.

Watching Sidwell in place of Dembele in the midfield is going to be rough. Feels kind of like I just traded in my lamborghini and left the lot in a minivan...

1st half positionaly we were awful 2nd half the 4-4-2 looked alot better however Sidwell would attack when we were defending which was strange to say the least

[alexbishop]

I watched all 90 mns and still can't figure out what formation FFC were in. They didn't seem to be in any organized shape at all. As if 11 guys just showed up to play a Sat morning game of pick up.

Watching Sidwell in place of Dembele in the midfield is going to be rough. Feels kind of like I just traded in my lamborghini and left the lot in a minivan...

That's Jol's system though. The Dutch way is all about interchanging positions and changing formation though the game. We were 4-5-1, 4-3-3, 4-4-2 all at some point during the game.

[tslyon]

While not our greatest showing, let's wait and see what we look like in a couple of weeks.  We have a new team that needs to get to know one another.  We lost some good players and brought in others.  We will find our way.  Might not be the season we want, but we're going to be fine...

[Jem]

Result not that bad. The first time I went to Upton Park we were beaten 7 - 2. Oh what a long journey home that was!

[TonyGilroy]

Result not that bad. The first time I went to Upton Park we were beaten 7 - 2. Oh what a long journey home that was!

We always lost big when Bobby Drake played. Didn't we score first?

[WolverineFFC]

I watched all 90 mns and still can't figure out what formation FFC were in. They didn't seem to be in any organized shape at all. As if 11 guys just showed up to play a Sat morning game of pick up.

Watching Sidwell in place of Dembele in the midfield is going to be rough. Feels kind of like I just traded in my lamborghini and left the lot in a minivan...

That's Jol's system though. The Dutch way is all about interchanging positions and changing formation though the game. We were 4-5-1, 4-3-3, 4-4-2 all at some point during the game.

Oh, I get that. My point was more that the team itself had no cohesion in how they set up. Half the team may have been in a 4-4-2 form, but the other half might have been holding a 4-3-3. Up and down the pitch it didn't seem like all 11 players were on the same page.

[itombomb]

I watched all 90 mns and still can't figure out what formation FFC were in. They didn't seem to be in any organized shape at all. As if 11 guys just showed up to play a Sat morning game of pick up.

Watching Sidwell in place of Dembele in the midfield is going to be rough. Feels kind of like I just traded in my lamborghini and left the lot in a minivan...

That's Jol's system though. The Dutch way is all about interchanging positions and changing formation though the game. We were 4-5-1, 4-3-3, 4-4-2 all at some point during the game.

Oh, I get that. My point was more that the team itself had no cohesion in how they set up. Half the team may have been in a 4-4-2 form, but the other half might have been holding a 4-3-3. Up and down the pitch it didn't seem like all 11 players were on the same page.

I agree with you entirely, it was nominally a 4-3-3, but executed really badly, Richardson would frequently vacate the left of midfield and no one would drop in. Rodellega couldn't stop standing right on their RB completely out of the game.

It was so imbalanced. Particularly as we only have one CM of any real quality and Jol decided to play 3 of them.