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[spikey norman]

One of the topics being discussed is whether Bent would be better off going to us or Newcastle and inviting fans from both clubs to phone in and have their say
In a poll 60% say better off going to Newcaste
Another topic is as today is 47 years ago to the day England won world cup and question is whether England will ever win it again

[Admin]

He'll go to Newcastle anyway. Mackintosh will make it totally impossible for the move to go ahead by penny pinching the life out of the deal. I'm all for being cautious etc, but I think Mackintosh destroys a lot of our business by being far to shrewd sometimes. From what I've heard today, we've also lost Malanda on the basis that we couldn't agree terms with the player. I'm starting to get a little fed up with it all.   

[Northern Cottager]

He'll go to Newcastle anyway. Mackintosh will make it totally impossible for the move to go ahead by penny pinching the life out of the deal. I'm all for being cautious etc, but I think Mackintosh destroys a lot of our business by being far to shrewd sometimes. From what I've heard today, we've also lost Malanda on the basis that we couldn't agree terms with the player. I'm starting to get a little fed up with it all.   

Oh god, you've had a proper gripe with him in your recent posts! Lol.

I'm sure we'll all be happy come September 3rd.

[spikey norman]

He'll go to Newcastle anyway. Mackintosh will make it totally impossible for the move to go ahead by penny pinching the life out of the deal. I'm all for being cautious etc, but I think Mackintosh destroys a lot of our business by being far to shrewd sometimes. From what I've heard today, we've also lost Malanda on the basis that we couldn't agree terms with the player. I'm starting to get a little fed up with it all.  

I think Mackintosh's position( like everyone else's) is vulnerable so he is going out to prove to Khan that he is a tough negotiator which could well be to the detriment of Jol getting the players he wants
Maybe this is why the Osvaldo saga is dragging on

[Admin]

He'll go to Newcastle anyway. Mackintosh will make it totally impossible for the move to go ahead by penny pinching the life out of the deal. I'm all for being cautious etc, but I think Mackintosh destroys a lot of our business by being far to shrewd sometimes. From what I've heard today, we've also lost Malanda on the basis that we couldn't agree terms with the player. I'm starting to get a little fed up with it all.   

Oh god, you've had a proper gripe with him in your recent posts! Lol.

I'm sure we'll all be happy come September 3rd.

I'm having one of those "Everyone else is doing better than us" days today.. But, for any CEO to say "We've got a world class left back in Briggs" seriously has something wrong with them.

[Apprentice to the Maestro]

He'll go to Newcastle anyway. Mackintosh will make it totally impossible for the move to go ahead by penny pinching the life out of the deal. I'm all for being cautious etc, but I think Mackintosh destroys a lot of our business by being far to shrewd sometimes. From what I've heard today, we've also lost Malanda on the basis that we couldn't agree terms with the player. I'm starting to get a little fed up with it all.  

Oh god, you've had a proper gripe with him in your recent posts! Lol.

I'm sure we'll all be happy come September 3rd.

I'm having one of those "Everyone else is doing better than us" days today.. But, for any CEO to say "We've got a world class left back in Briggs" seriously has something wrong with them.

What happened to the idea of respect for people's opinions?

The clue is in the title: CEO. He's not making footballing decisions so why get so irate?

[Admin]

He'll go to Newcastle anyway. Mackintosh will make it totally impossible for the move to go ahead by penny pinching the life out of the deal. I'm all for being cautious etc, but I think Mackintosh destroys a lot of our business by being far to shrewd sometimes. From what I've heard today, we've also lost Malanda on the basis that we couldn't agree terms with the player. I'm starting to get a little fed up with it all.  

Oh god, you've had a proper gripe with him in your recent posts! Lol.

I'm sure we'll all be happy come September 3rd.

I'm having one of those "Everyone else is doing better than us" days today.. But, for any CEO to say "We've got a world class left back in Briggs" seriously has something wrong with them.

What happened to the idea of respect for people's opinions?

The clue is in the title CEO. He's not making footballing decisions so why get so irate?

Well, he kind of was, he said "We've got a world class left back in Matthew Briggs". In my book, that's a footballing decision, that's even more than a footballing decision, that's a footballing statement. And do me a favor, don't preach to me about respect, when it's you that goes around this forum half the time disrespecting others about their opinions.

[Berserker]

I agree with Admin, i'm having a bad few days of gloom and doom regarding our Transfer policy and what affect it will have on next season

[spikey norman]

I agree with Admin, i'm having a bad few days of gloom and doom regarding our Transfer policy and what affect it will have on next season

Is Mackintosh the problem?

[Bryanthebroom]

I agree with Admin, i'm having a bad few days of gloom and doom regarding our Transfer policy and what affect it will have on next season

First of all, I'm sort of relieved that I'm not the only one who's been feeling like this; thank God for the FoF forum!

Secondly, as the CEO he may not have much of a say in who plays in the starting XI but surely he has a massive input on transfers.  Briggs may be a decent prospect but labeling as a world class player - if Mackintosh was being serious - is pretty damn disturbing for the club.

Anyway, maybe we're all getting ahead of ourselves when there's over a month of the transfer window left.  Keep the faith.

[Edwatch_Winston_Malone]

Sometimes you have to go all 'brinkmanship' on their ass....

[Me-ate-Live, innit??]

He'll go to Newcastle anyway. Mackintosh will make it totally impossible for the move to go ahead by penny pinching the life out of the deal. I'm all for being cautious etc, but I think Mackintosh destroys a lot of our business by being far to shrewd sometimes. From what I've heard today, we've also lost Malanda on the basis that we couldn't agree terms with the player. I'm starting to get a little fed up with it all.   

Come along now Admin do we REALLY want Bent ??? true a great striker, but his head is shot , his hamstring is stringy, splinters in the derriere and the wrong side of 29. There are managers that could get the best out of him but I doubt Jol is that manager. 

[Apprentice to the Maestro]

He'll go to Newcastle anyway. Mackintosh will make it totally impossible for the move to go ahead by penny pinching the life out of the deal. I'm all for being cautious etc, but I think Mackintosh destroys a lot of our business by being far to shrewd sometimes. From what I've heard today, we've also lost Malanda on the basis that we couldn't agree terms with the player. I'm starting to get a little fed up with it all.   

Oh god, you've had a proper gripe with him in your recent posts! Lol.

I'm sure we'll all be happy come September 3rd.

I'm having one of those "Everyone else is doing better than us" days today.. But, for any CEO to say "We've got a world class left back in Briggs" seriously has something wrong with them.

What happened to the idea of respect for people's opinions?

The clue is in the title CEO. He's not making footballing decisions so why get so irate?

Well, he kind of was, he said "We've got a world class left back in Matthew Briggs". In my book, that's a footballing decision, that's even more than a footballing decision, that's a footballing statement. And do me a favor, don't preach to me about respect, when it's you that goes around this forum half the time disrespecting others about their opinions.

I don't disrespect people's opinions without cause. If I respond negatively it is because posters have tried to justify their opinions with inaccuracies or spurious arguments.

So, you choose to redefine the term `footballing decision' which is used to describe team selection, transfer targets and the like. As far as we know Alistair Mackintosh has nothing to do with these decisions. So why are you `disrespecting' him? He is only a punter like the rest of us.

Saying "it's you that goes around this forum half the time disrespecting others about their opinions" is just plain abuse.

Your response redefines terms and resorts to abuse because your point does not stand up to any kind of inspection. But then why should it as it is just only another one of your opinions.

[Apprentice to the Maestro]

I agree with Admin, i'm having a bad few days of gloom and doom regarding our Transfer policy and what affect it will have on next season

First of all, I'm sort of relieved that I'm not the only one who's been feeling like this; thank God for the FoF forum!

Secondly, as the CEO he may not have much of a say in who plays in the starting XI but surely he has a massive input on transfers.  Briggs may be a decent prospect but labeling as a world class player - if Mackintosh was being serious - is pretty damn disturbing for the club.

Anyway, maybe we're all getting ahead of ourselves when there's over a month of the transfer window left.  Keep the faith.

Why is it disturbing for the club? Do we really think that Mackintosh has "a massive input on transfers"? I would have thought that he would negotiate them with the transfer targets, the fee limit and the wage limit agreed by the directors based on proposals put forward by Jol.

Does anybody know for certain rather than merely suspect and want to indulge in another round of Mackintosh abuse?

[Admin]

He'll go to Newcastle anyway. Mackintosh will make it totally impossible for the move to go ahead by penny pinching the life out of the deal. I'm all for being cautious etc, but I think Mackintosh destroys a lot of our business by being far to shrewd sometimes. From what I've heard today, we've also lost Malanda on the basis that we couldn't agree terms with the player. I'm starting to get a little fed up with it all.   

Oh god, you've had a proper gripe with him in your recent posts! Lol.

I'm sure we'll all be happy come September 3rd.

I'm having one of those "Everyone else is doing better than us" days today.. But, for any CEO to say "We've got a world class left back in Briggs" seriously has something wrong with them.

What happened to the idea of respect for people's opinions?

The clue is in the title CEO. He's not making footballing decisions so why get so irate?

Well, he kind of was, he said "We've got a world class left back in Matthew Briggs". In my book, that's a footballing decision, that's even more than a footballing decision, that's a footballing statement. And do me a favor, don't preach to me about respect, when it's you that goes around this forum half the time disrespecting others about their opinions.

I don't disrespect people's opinions without cause. If I respond negatively it is because posters have tried to justify their opinions with inaccuracies or spurious arguments.

So, you choose to redefine the term `footballing decision' which is used to describe team selection, transfer targets and the like. As far as we know Alistair Mackintosh has nothing to do with these decisions. So why are you `disrespecting' him? He is only a punter like the rest of us.

Saying "it's you that goes around this forum half the time disrespecting others about their opinions" is just plain abuse.

Your response redefines terms and resorts to abuse because your point does not stand up to any kind of inspection. But then why should it as it is just only another one of your opinions.

"He is only a punter like the rest of us" Really? I bet he doesn't pay for a season ticket, I bet he has more insight to transfer targets than anyone else at the club and, he is more than likely the forefront of any business transfers we do. What an absolutely ridiculous statement. Seriously, I can't even be bothered to go on and argue my case after reading that.  fp.gif      

[Apprentice to the Maestro]

He'll go to Newcastle anyway. Mackintosh will make it totally impossible for the move to go ahead by penny pinching the life out of the deal. I'm all for being cautious etc, but I think Mackintosh destroys a lot of our business by being far to shrewd sometimes. From what I've heard today, we've also lost Malanda on the basis that we couldn't agree terms with the player. I'm starting to get a little fed up with it all.  

Oh god, you've had a proper gripe with him in your recent posts! Lol.

I'm sure we'll all be happy come September 3rd.

I'm having one of those "Everyone else is doing better than us" days today.. But, for any CEO to say "We've got a world class left back in Briggs" seriously has something wrong with them.

What happened to the idea of respect for people's opinions?

The clue is in the title CEO. He's not making footballing decisions so why get so irate?

Well, he kind of was, he said "We've got a world class left back in Matthew Briggs". In my book, that's a footballing decision, that's even more than a footballing decision, that's a footballing statement. And do me a favor, don't preach to me about respect, when it's you that goes around this forum half the time disrespecting others about their opinions.

I don't disrespect people's opinions without cause. If I respond negatively it is because posters have tried to justify their opinions with inaccuracies or spurious arguments.

So, you choose to redefine the term `footballing decision' which is used to describe team selection, transfer targets and the like. As far as we know Alistair Mackintosh has nothing to do with these decisions. So why are you `disrespecting' him? He is only a punter like the rest of us.

Saying "it's you that goes around this forum half the time disrespecting others about their opinions" is just plain abuse.

Your response redefines terms and resorts to abuse because your point does not stand up to any kind of inspection. But then why should it as it is just only another one of your opinions.

"He is only a punter like the rest of us" Really? I bet he doesn't pay for a season ticket, I bet he has more insight to transfer targets than anyone else at the club and, he is more than likely the forefront of any business transfers we do. What an absolutely ridiculous statement. Seriously, I can't even be bothered to go on and argue my case after reading that.  fp.gif      

Alistair Mackintosh is a Chartered Accountant. Read his profile on http://www.fulhamfc.com/shahid-khan/directors. He will not have any footballing input so in terms of opinions about players he is a punter or supporter if you prefer like the rest of us.

Or do you really believe that he has the ear of Jol and keeps whispering "Briggs is world class"?
Well it's not having any effect is it?

[grandad]

I agree with Admin, i'm having a bad few days of gloom and doom regarding our Transfer policy and what affect it will have on next season

Is Mackintosh the problem?

I think he may well be
No other club seems to have such protracted transfers which end up with the player signing for someone else.

[RidgeRider]

He'll go to Newcastle anyway. Mackintosh will make it totally impossible for the move to go ahead by penny pinching the life out of the deal. I'm all for being cautious etc, but I think Mackintosh destroys a lot of our business by being far to shrewd sometimes. From what I've heard today, we've also lost Malanda on the basis that we couldn't agree terms with the player. I'm starting to get a little fed up with it all.   

Oh god, you've had a proper gripe with him in your recent posts! Lol.

I'm sure we'll all be happy come September 3rd.

I'm having one of those "Everyone else is doing better than us" days today.. But, for any CEO to say "We've got a world class left back in Briggs" seriously has something wrong with them.

What happened to the idea of respect for people's opinions?

The clue is in the title CEO. He's not making footballing decisions so why get so irate?

Well, he kind of was, he said "We've got a world class left back in Matthew Briggs". In my book, that's a footballing decision, that's even more than a footballing decision, that's a footballing statement. And do me a favor, don't preach to me about respect, when it's you that goes around this forum half the time disrespecting others about their opinions.

I don't disrespect people's opinions without cause. If I respond negatively it is because posters have tried to justify their opinions with inaccuracies or spurious arguments.

Who died and left you in charge of deciding who should be considered wrong? Or that opinions are inaccurate? Or that it is your place to be disrespectful when you think it is warranted? You are disrespectful to other posters consistently on this board, because you think you know better. Please read the rules of using this board again. If they don't make sense to you then there are plenty of other places to post in the manner that you do. I respect the fact you support the club, but I don't like the way you behave with others around far too often. Chill out with your tone.

[rhyspabsolom]

What a ridiculous attack on Ali Mack, as if you have the slightest clue what he does or what's been said in any of those meetings.

[Northern Cottager]

He'll go to Newcastle anyway. Mackintosh will make it totally impossible for the move to go ahead by penny pinching the life out of the deal. I'm all for being cautious etc, but I think Mackintosh destroys a lot of our business by being far to shrewd sometimes. From what I've heard today, we've also lost Malanda on the basis that we couldn't agree terms with the player. I'm starting to get a little fed up with it all.   

Come along now Admin do we REALLY want Bent ??? true a great striker, but his head is shot , his hamstring is stringy, splinters in the derriere and the wrong side of 29. There are managers that could get the best out of him but I doubt Jol is that manager. 

I do think if anyone can get the best out of him it possibly is Jol, however has he still got it in him to be at this best in the first place? #

There has got to be a reason why the manager went in there and from the off didn't want to play a former England striker with an incredible record. I think he could be a gamble that will either pay off massively or let us down and be sat next to Rodallega on the bench taking up thousands each week.