Definitely NFR: How long till we only get 3 CL places?

[LillieBoy]

The way things are going is it possible that the English Premier League will only get 3 places in the Champs League?

Only really interested technically.  I mean should I be supporting "English" so-called teams in this competittion?   But I can't stand them!   :dft007:

I know it's based on "co-efficients" or whatever.

Anyone know what it takes to lose that 4th place?

[PokerMatt]

It would take a massive improvement from Serie A.

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/index.html

Basically club performances in Europe are taken into account across the previous four years, so it will take consistently bad or consistently good (Germany) performances to go down or up the rankings.

Germany will probably go above us, but I can't see Italy for a long while, especially as their best season is about to drop off the consideration. We need to go down to fourth to lose a CL spot.

[Pluto]

A long time considering Italy and France only have one team in the last 16 and we have 4 (3 leagues get 4 places). As you can see here we have a comfortable lead and actually scored the most points last season: http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/

Edit: I see Matt beat me to that link! 

[HatterDon]

Who exactly is "we?"

[LillieBoy]

It would take a massive improvement from Serie A.

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/index.html

Basically club performances in Europe are taken into account across the previous four years, so it will take consistently bad or consistently good (Germany) performances to go down or up the rankings.

Germany will probably go above us, but I can't see Italy for a long while, especially as their best season is about to drop off the consideration. We need to go down to fourth to lose a CL spot.

Thanks Matt.

We only got the 4th place a few years ago so was that from Italy?

[I'm a 7-card-stud man myself. Bloody hard to get a game these days.  It's all tourneys].

[PokerMatt]

Who exactly is "we?"

It's obvious if you look at the link.

[LillieBoy]

Who exactly is "we?"

Teams representing the English Premier League whoever owns or plays for them.

Stop it you naughty boy.   :HD:
:dead horse:

[PokerMatt]

It would take a massive improvement from Serie A.

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/index.html

Basically club performances in Europe are taken into account across the previous four years, so it will take consistently bad or consistently good (Germany) performances to go down or up the rankings.

Germany will probably go above us, but I can't see Italy for a long while, especially as their best season is about to drop off the consideration. We need to go down to fourth to lose a CL spot.

Thanks Matt.

We only got the 4th place a few years ago so was that from Italy?

[I'm a 7-card-stud man myself. Bloody hard to get a game these days.  It's all tourneys].

We've been in the top two for a long time - it was Germany who recently got the extra spot by taking over Serie A. Premier League was overtaken by Spain (well, Barca) a couple of years ago but it has been at the top for a lot of years.

I think the addition of the fourth CL place (if that's what you mean?) was a decision to allow more in overall and not to do with the PL's performance overall.

[Have you tried online? It is hard to get anything other than Hold-em or Omaha, but that's fine for me as those are the main ones I play.]

[Fernhurst]

Yeah but, yeah but..... How long before Internationals turn into Premiership games?

This lad Adan Januzaj from Man U could possibly qualify for 4 different countries.
Go figure.

[LillieBoy]

It would take a massive improvement from Serie A.

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/index.html

Basically club performances in Europe are taken into account across the previous four years, so it will take consistently bad or consistently good (Germany) performances to go down or up the rankings.

Germany will probably go above us, but I can't see Italy for a long while, especially as their best season is about to drop off the consideration. We need to go down to fourth to lose a CL spot.

Thanks Matt.

We only got the 4th place a few years ago so was that from Italy?

[I'm a 7-card-stud man myself. Bloody hard to get a game these days.  It's all tourneys].

We've been in the top two for a long time - it was Germany who recently got the extra spot by taking over Serie A. Premier League was overtaken by Spain (well, Barca) a couple of years ago but it has been at the top for a lot of years.

I think the addition of the fourth CL place (if that's what you mean?) was a decision to allow more in overall and not to do with the PL's performance overall.

[Have you tried online? It is hard to get anything other than Hold-em or Omaha, but that's fine for me as those are the main ones I play.]

I remember when the EPL got the fourth place not that long ago.  7 or 8 years?  Please confirm!!

[I don't play online - it's completely different.  I play cards.  I don't gamble]. 

[PokerMatt]

It would take a massive improvement from Serie A.

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/index.html

Basically club performances in Europe are taken into account across the previous four years, so it will take consistently bad or consistently good (Germany) performances to go down or up the rankings.

Germany will probably go above us, but I can't see Italy for a long while, especially as their best season is about to drop off the consideration. We need to go down to fourth to lose a CL spot.

Thanks Matt.

We only got the 4th place a few years ago so was that from Italy?

[I'm a 7-card-stud man myself. Bloody hard to get a game these days.  It's all tourneys].

We've been in the top two for a long time - it was Germany who recently got the extra spot by taking over Serie A. Premier League was overtaken by Spain (well, Barca) a couple of years ago but it has been at the top for a lot of years.

I think the addition of the fourth CL place (if that's what you mean?) was a decision to allow more in overall and not to do with the PL's performance overall.

[Have you tried online? It is hard to get anything other than Hold-em or Omaha, but that's fine for me as those are the main ones I play.]

I remember when the EPL got the fourth place not that long ago.  7 or 8 years?  Please confirm!!

[I don't play online - it's completely different.  I play cards.  I don't gamble]. 

I really can't remember I'm afraid. I feel it might have been longer than that, though, because wasn't it 2005 Liverpool finished fifth but bumped Everton out because they won the thing?

[LillieBoy]

Blimey, as if on cue Manure go 2-0 down!

Hurrah!!  :022:

[Blanco]

Who exactly is "we?"

He obviously means the Prem.

[Wingnut]

Man City, Arsenal and Man United are as good as out and they have all been well beaten in their games. A poor show so far from the PL team.

[FPT]

What annoys me, is when we dominated Europe (must have been 4/5 years when we had 3 semi finalists in the Champions League) we didn't get an extra Champions League or Europa League spot... Oh well.