Best news this weekend - Magath vows to carry on

[Berserker]

Do you think the over zealous training on the older players did them in

[Fulham Tup North]

 092.gif He has only been with Fulham a short while and had no experience of the Premiership, but to say he was a great Manager in Germany so he will be a good Manager in the Championship is ludicrous. I think we will need a Manager who understands this division and can get players with a bit of fight about them.
Otherwise I suppose we can look forward to Stockdale playing Centre Forward and Sidwell as a Central Defender next season and a different 11 every Saturday.  
I have little faith in the bloke and nothing I have seen since he came to Fulham has changed my mind and I have suffered under Ian Branfoot and Don MacKay. :(

[dannydog]

Why would we want a manager who, in a must win game, plays a young left footed 6'7 Dan Burn at right back ? Magath is not right for the championship, he has no experience of this division and his team selection and formations are really odd.

[grandad]

Felix the Pheonix is the right man for the job. No one including Poyet or Pulis could have done any thing with the load of dross we have. We will have the fittest squad of players ever. If players can´t do a few extra press ups they are no good for us any way.

[nose]

i am not so sure about felix anymore, just when I was warming to him, he plays burn at right back and having made the error, does not correct it by swapping him and hetinga. that schoolboy type error in the most important game of the season does not inspire confidence.... neither did leaving woodrow on the bench, woodrow has life and ability, bent seems to lack either and mitro is such a bad joke, his inability to move yesterday made his selection a farce.

[Fulham Tup North]

i am not so sure about felix anymore, just when I was warming to him, he plays burn at right back and having made the error, does not correct it by swapping him and hetinga. that schoolboy type error in the most important game of the season does not inspire confidence.... neither did leaving woodrow on the bench, woodrow has life and ability, bent seems to lack either and mitro is such a bad joke, his inability to move yesterday made his selection a farce.

+1

[ScalleysDad]

Good point Mr Nose
Heitinga was having a more than heated discussion with Magath as the teams walked off at half time. I am not a lip reader but the arm waving from Heitinga seemed to indicate moving positions. That made absolute sense if that was the case even more so as we could all see the problem. The fact that the obvious tactical and right change did not happen was a huge management failing. Bent has been an absolute failure and yet he is brought on and as for the rest of it ............. sheesh.

[ron]

He's just like Ali Mac - a poor quality manager who compounded our problems by making one seriously bad decision after another. 
The whole organisation is in such poor shape we might as well take the opportunity of a complete change.  The one big challenge that needs to be met this time is that Khan does his research properly on the qualities of the club manager.  The last one that Ali Mac got right was Mark Hughes.  How ironic.
Nogood "Captain Panics, isit" Boyo

Wrong in my opion how can a made that has won the German league 3 times, saved 3 clubs from sure relegation be considered a poor quality manager, he just came to us too late, had to work with the poor performing players, and yes he has made 1 or 2 odd decisions (Burn yesterday), but i guess he was just trying something different and it did not pay off. I think in the long run and given the support he needs he wikll succeed

There's a world of difference between managing in the Bundesliga and the Prem. The German culture demands that managers are listened to, and their demands are acted upon. In the rather freer atmosphere in Britain, managers are required to have things like charisma. Even though players are of many nations in the English leagues, that laxity still exists as compared to the environment in which Magath made his reputation.

I said before that immediately after the Stoke debacle he looked like a sad, bewildered little man. He is out of his depth because he is outside his familiar culture. He is another mistake in what seems to be an interminable succession of ****-ups that have blighted this wonderful club these two years.

[Texas White]

The last three games....

Bizzare choices and tactics. All the talent in the youth and he ignores them. He has just left me confused and angry. If the squad is so poor grow some balls play the kids. At least people would respect that.
Should be 6 changes minimum for Saturday.
And I dont condone abusing a player but I never want to see Bent in our shirt again.

[Nero]

He's just like Ali Mac - a poor quality manager who compounded our problems by making one seriously bad decision after another. 
The whole organisation is in such poor shape we might as well take the opportunity of a complete change.  The one big challenge that needs to be met this time is that Khan does his research properly on the qualities of the club manager.  The last one that Ali Mac got right was Mark Hughes.  How ironic.
Nogood "Captain Panics, isit" Boyo

Wrong in my opion how can a made that has won the German league 3 times, saved 3 clubs from sure relegation be considered a poor quality manager, he just came to us too late, had to work with the poor performing players, and yes he has made 1 or 2 odd decisions (Burn yesterday), but i guess he was just trying something different and it did not pay off. I think in the long run and given the support he needs he wikll succeed

There's a world of difference between managing in the Bundesliga and the Prem. The German culture demands that managers are listened to, and their demands are acted upon. In the rather freer atmosphere in Britain, managers are required to have things like charisma. Even though players are of many nations in the English leagues, that laxity still exists as compared to the environment in which Magath made his reputation.

I said before that immediately after the Stoke debacle he looked like a sad, bewildered little man. He is out of his depth because he is outside his familiar culture. He is another mistake in what seems to be an interminable succession of ****-ups that have blighted this wonderful club these two years.

Yea them Germans are crap at football 66 and all that

[Apprentice to the Maestro]

Yes, his record before Fulham is very good. Yes, the players have been very poor.

That's why he was brought in.

His record at Fulham shows he has failed to sort out our defensive frailties. The team has been changed every week, often for no obvious reason. His selections and substitutions have been poor. The team look even less fit than under Jol. They certainly look less motivated than under Rene.

His record is not significantly better than Jol's that had 95% of posters on here calling for Jol's sacking. If he had taken over from Jol directly (rather than after the Rene interlude) with his current record he would be our second sacked manager of the season.

Magath has yet to do anything at Fulham to inspire confidence.

[GloucesterWhite]

I have no faith in Felix. The team selection and tactics lately have been so poor. And to those who say that Felix had success at previous clubs I say so did Jol and look what happened there.

We need a manager with experience of the championship. And I would like a new owner too although can't see that happening.

[Northern Cottager]

I'm not even sure what to thin about the manager. Normally I've got an opinion about it but I've lost the will to live and think no one could sort this current squad out, suppose next season will be a different situation if they're all moved on.

[Logicalman]

Magath was damning in his verdict of his side's performance, accusing his players of lacking fighting spirit and being overwhelmed with nerves on such a big occasion.
"You saw no fighting spirit and therefore I think they felt too much pressure," added Magath. "I apologise for not managing the situation because I was convinced we would stay in the league but we are relegated."

Unless this has been taken out of context, it seems he is willing to blame the players for his own ineptness in picking a squad with the correct tactics, and the last paragraph indicates that he had no idea what he was doing, convinced? How could one be convinced when it was a must win game? The only nerves I saw out there was Burn, who had no idea how to play in that position, with or without fighting spirit.

[jarv]

Agree with Tony (above).

His management beggars belief in my eyes. The team now needs a manager who knows the division we will be in. There are a few about who would do a good job. I hate to say it but I would even settle for Allardyce when West Ham sack him.  Second point, whoever the manager is, I expect him to know enough to prevent a drop into the 3rd division and build for a future challenge at the top.

[PeterB]

My feeling is that Felix does not want to be here next season. He is saying he wants to stay but may just be negotiating for a final year pay off of his contract. Like the guy but too many unexplained team selections.

[Neil D]

The team now needs a manager who knows the division we will be in. There are a few about who would do a good job. I hate to say it but I would even settle for Allardyce when West Ham sack him.

The statement about needing a manager who knows about the Championship appears quite frequently but I would like to know what this means.  Does it mean one committed to long ball, kick-and-rush stuff?  That the only way to get out of this division is to kick your way out?  We didn't do that with Tigana.  If we had a manager experienced in getting out of the Championship, then we'd quickly have a chorus of those claiming we need a  new manager suited to keeping us in the Premiership.  I think this is a red herring.

[PeterB]

Neil, I like the Tigana analogy!

[sunburywhite]

Burn - right back

Need I say more?

[MJG]

The team now needs a manager who knows the division we will be in. There are a few about who would do a good job. I hate to say it but I would even settle for Allardyce when West Ham sack him.

The statement about needing a manager who knows about the Championship appears quite frequently but I would like to know what this means.  Does it mean one committed to long ball, kick-and-rush stuff?  That the only way to get out of this division is to kick your way out?  We didn't do that with Tigana.  If we had a manager experienced in getting out of the Championship, then we'd quickly have a chorus of those claiming we need a  new manager suited to keeping us in the Premiership.  I think this is a red herring.

I always used to joke that you get Dave Bassett in to get promoted and then sack him as soon as you go up.