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Whites or Cottagers?

Started by Twig, October 03, 2014, 06:01:30 AM

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Quote from: Neil D on October 03, 2014, 09:06:37 AM
Cottagers is fine.  

No it is not fine,  It's the tag The Evening Standard gave us when they were taking the P***

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We are the Whites .....We are the Whites .........We are We are we are the Whitessssssssss

Fulham 442



Why oh why is "Cottagers" not PC? Surely we now all embrace practices which used to be considered uncouth or bawdy? It is the imperialistic stereotyping and racial superiority that should and will be banned in the future. Come on Fulham this is 2014 after all.

As Deano says surely your comments are a wind up?!  You were embarrassed by the crowd singing "Come on you Whites" when they are clearly referring to the players on the pitch in our colours.  I suppose you also object to using words like "blackboard"!
As far as the actual thread goes my late Dad, born in 1919, always referred to us as The Lilywhites!

Nero

up until 3 games ago I thought our nickname was going to change to the Shites.

But surely a nickname is something that can change over time, for example one of your friends put on weight he will start being know as "Fat Lad"


ron

The Official Programme....sorry, "Matchday Magazine"......editorial section was called "The Cottagers' Journal" in the '50's and '60's, so the nickname is well established. "Whites", as has been said though is easier to shout than the multisyllabic "Cottagers", so keeps favour with most.

Leave aside all oversensitive thoughts about political correctness..........

Those flags that used to flutter in the breeze on the Thames side terrace.....they used to look quite gay, didn't they?

Lighthouse

As has been mentioned few nicknames are used that much by fans any more. Toffees, Red Devils are well known but only used as advertising slogans not by fans. My Dad never used the term Cottagers and nor did I. We are simply The Whites and that is the reason changing the colour of the shirt means more to us fans than it logically should do.
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ron

Quote from: Lighthouse on October 03, 2014, 10:13:14 AM
As has been mentioned few nicknames are used that much by fans any more. Toffees, Red Devils are well known but only used as advertising slogans not by fans. My Dad never used the term Cottagers and nor did I. We are simply The Whites and that is the reason changing the colour of the shirt means more to us fans than it logically should do.

Totally agree about the symbolism of the white shirt. Any other colour 'adornment' cheapens the look. Perhaps a silken pattern in the white, but that's about as far as it should go.


epsomraver

Quote from: Martinsback on October 03, 2014, 09:09:50 AM
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on October 03, 2014, 08:56:42 AM
Martin is this a wind up attempt, with all the PC talk on here lately I am not sure if you are being serious? 

Why oh why is "Cottagers" not PC? Surely we now all embrace practices which used to be considered uncouth or bawdy? It is the imperialistic stereotyping and racial superiority that should and will be banned in the future. Come on Fulham this is 2014 after all.

You really did have a bad upbringing and it has seriously affected you, sad

epsomraver

Quote from: Martinsback on October 03, 2014, 08:52:27 AM
I took my black friend to the Cottage and we were both embarrassed and angry at the use of "whites" as in come on you Whites. Surely now that we are in the 21st century we can forget this imperialistic nonsense and move on?
What a plonker!

Two Ton Ted

I thought we were the LillieWhites, as in Lillie Road.

Never ever bloody anything ever.


epsomraver

Quote from: Two Ton Ted on October 03, 2014, 10:23:51 AM
I thought we were the LillieWhites, as in Lillie Road.



That is my understanding too Ted

Peabody

When I first started, back in the 1940's, they all used to shout "come on you Lilleywhites". But I suppose that was as relevant to all teams that played in white shirts. Teams like Derby, Tottenham, PNE and though they had black collars and cuffs, Notts County, had white shirts.

Tony.Lee

Quote from: Martinsback on October 03, 2014, 09:09:50 AM
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on October 03, 2014, 08:56:42 AM
Martin is this a wind up attempt, with all the PC talk on here lately I am not sure if you are being serious?  

Why oh why is "Cottagers" not PC? Surely we now all embrace practices which used to be considered uncouth or bawdy? It is the imperialistic stereotyping and racial superiority that should and will be banned in the future. Come on Fulham this is 2014 after all.

If this is serious I hope the kids have bubble wrap and ear muffs on them to sure they see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil.

I hear use of the cottagers term, but never in chants. It's mostly popular with the media as well. Either doesn't entirely bother me, and why should it? Man United often refer to the reds, and other teams refer to shirt colour.
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domprague

Well, Scunthorpe and West Ham shout 'Come on the Iron' and Gooners shout 'Up the Arse' so I think 'Cottagers' is quite quaint and restrained.
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Fulham1959

I don't mind being called Steve or Stephen  -  in fact I rather like having an alter-ego.

I think 'third parties', i.e.  mainly football reporters, will often use the term "the Cottagers" and I like that as it's unique to us and acknowledges both our heritage and our ground.

It was noticeable in "Thursday's Fulham Stuff" that, in a report of the game from a Bolton source, Bolton were referred to as 'the Whites' . . . and it threw me for a while !

We can always use the word "Fulham" !!

TonyGilroy


It's always been our "official" nickname but it's not been used by Fulham supporters in my lifetime.

I remember an away match at Southampton when George Best played, so probably 1977, a very old boy probably in his 80s croaking out "come on the Cottagers" and even then he seemed several generations out of time. It's memorable because it seemed so odd.


Stefano Okaka Chuka

I prefer the cottagers over the unimaginative the whites anyday of the week. Obviously, you never use the first one and you can't lend it to chants, but still it's much more suggestive and intriguing about our club than the boring "whites".
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Woodlawn

We were always known as the lilywhites, I have books going back to the 1920's and it  says Fulham football club Nickname "LILLYWHITES"

Martinsback

Quote from: Fulham 442 on October 03, 2014, 09:43:44 AM


Why oh why is "Cottagers" not PC? Surely we now all embrace practices which used to be considered uncouth or bawdy? It is the imperialistic stereotyping and racial superiority that should and will be banned in the future. Come on Fulham this is 2014 after all.

As Deano says surely your comments are a wind up?!  You were embarrassed by the crowd singing "Come on you Whites" when they are clearly referring to the players on the pitch in our colours.  I suppose you also object to using words like "blackboard"!
As far as the actual thread goes my late Dad, born in 1919, always referred to us as The Lilywhites!

Blackboard is outdated and has negative connotations we use a flip chart now as White Board indicates that the top tier of management of any organisation is of a certain colour which we are trying to do away with.


Martinsback

Quote from: epsomraver on October 03, 2014, 10:22:46 AM
Quote from: Martinsback on October 03, 2014, 08:52:27 AM
I took my black friend to the Cottage and we were both embarrassed and angry at the use of "whites" as in come on you Whites. Surely now that we are in the 21st century we can forget this imperialistic nonsense and move on?
What a plonker!

We can't legislate for other people's feelings can we. We all have the right to be offended.

Martinsback

I have a problem with Northampton. Towns nick name. The town is famous as shoemakers not shoe repairers so why is their nickname "the Cobblers" when it should be "the Cordwainers". Surely the FA and the. League should step in to insist that they change this nickname?