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Mirror: Ali Mac Out, David Daly In

Started by NJFulham, October 26, 2014, 03:54:03 PM

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RidgeRider

Interesting. If true, let's hope Daly commits himself to the academy the way AM did.

J.Perkins

Ali Mac has been a constant through out our downfall. I wouldn't lose any sleep if he left.


bobbo

I know it's been said before but he must be in the region of 70% responsible for us going 10 years backwards. So I'm happy if it's true. With an owner , astute as he may well be in business he's unfamiliar with English football.So AM has to have made or strongly advised on the big decisions ie player purchases and manager appointments.speaks for itself I think
1975 just leaving home full of hope

Lighthouse

Sorry but Ali Mac has been made a scapegoat. He was ignored by our new owner despite trying to intervene in some of the more stupid decisions. I was all for blaming Ali Mac but it sadly seems that our new owner decided to take advice from people outside the club and who knew little about the club or football.

We hope Khan has learned from HIS mistakes. But Ali Mac, it turns out was trying to be a sane voice in an insane club. I only hope without his voice Khan doesn't make more stupid decisions.
The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

We may yet hear the horse talk.

I can stand my own despair but not others hope

Nero

Know it doesnt mean much but jol said on talksport recently that ali mac was one of the best in the game at what he does and getting players to sign. Its not his fault he wasnt allowed to spend money


MJG

Or that he was given targets by managers that turned out to be the wrong type of players we needed.

Berserker

Don't CEO's move jobs anyway after a few years. Maybe he wsnts to be a CEO of a Premier League club
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valdeingruo

Good and bad, particularly if his large involment of bringing the current crop of youngsters in is to be believed.
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Southcoastffc

Quote from: Lighthouse on October 26, 2014, 05:12:45 PM
Sorry but Ali Mac has been made a scapegoat. He was ignored by our new owner despite trying to intervene in some of the more stupid decisions. I was all for blaming Ali Mac but it sadly seems that our new owner decided to take advice from people outside the club and who knew little about the club or football.

We hope Khan has learned from HIS mistakes. But Ali Mac, it turns out was trying to be a sane voice in an insane club. I only hope without his voice Khan doesn't make more stupid decisions.
Just curious Lighthouse, not doubting what you say, but how do you know?
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Baggins

If you listen to the Jol interview on talksport he says how he `advised` Fulham to get Magath...  fp.gif

http://talksport.com/football/interview-special-jol-tottenham-fulham-levy-comolli-bale-and-more-141011118378

If you play it around 38 minutes you will get to it
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Whitesideup

Quote from: Southcoastffc on October 26, 2014, 07:04:57 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on October 26, 2014, 05:12:45 PM
Sorry but Ali Mac has been made a scapegoat. He was ignored by our new owner despite trying to intervene in some of the more stupid decisions. I was all for blaming Ali Mac but it sadly seems that our new owner decided to take advice from people outside the club and who knew little about the club or football.

We hope Khan has learned from HIS mistakes. But Ali Mac, it turns out was trying to be a sane voice in an insane club. I only hope without his voice Khan doesn't make more stupid decisions.
Just curious Lighthouse, not doubting what you say, but how do you know?
Also Ali Mac was the advocate for Felix. That was made clear at the time of the appointment. Is this untrue? It was the biggest mistake of all time - not hindsight, may of us stated this from day 1. Such a mistake merits the boot all on its own.


Lighthouse

Quote from: Whitesideup on October 26, 2014, 11:50:12 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on October 26, 2014, 07:04:57 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on October 26, 2014, 05:12:45 PM
Sorry but Ali Mac has been made a scapegoat. He was ignored by our new owner despite trying to intervene in some of the more stupid decisions. I was all for blaming Ali Mac but it sadly seems that our new owner decided to take advice from people outside the club and who knew little about the club or football.

We hope Khan has learned from HIS mistakes. But Ali Mac, it turns out was trying to be a sane voice in an insane club. I only hope without his voice Khan doesn't make more stupid decisions.
Just curious Lighthouse, not doubting what you say, but how do you know?
Also Ali Mac was the advocate for Felix. That was made clear at the time of the appointment. Is this untrue? It was the biggest mistake of all time - not hindsight, may of us stated this from day 1. Such a mistake merits the boot all on its own.

Problem is it gets into 'he said, they said'. Where is the proof that Ali Mac was an advocate for Felix? That again flies in the face of what I see as the facts. I was very anti Ali Mac and blamed him as MD at the awful mistakes our club made. But it looks very much as if this isn't the case. We only need to look at the Greek signing to see how easy an owner and his son can ride rough shot over the MD. Felix was given control over all aspects of the club that sidelined our MD so how did the MD advocate Felix taking over? One day we may learn the truth. But our MD was not to blame for an owner who is happy to take advice from non football people and ignore that may have helped  us. 
The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

We may yet hear the horse talk.

I can stand my own despair but not others hope

NogoodBoyo

Sorry, Lighthouse, I still don't hear an answer as to how you know Ali Mac was not listened to by the owner.  And weren't you the one who coined the phrase that "he was the one constant throughout our last three disastrous management decisions?"
On the other hand, what I do recall is that Khan said he listened to and trusted Mac as his man on the ground.  Mac should have been fired ages ago.  His advice and his management decisions were terrible.
I do agree that the club needs to ensure the next CEO continues the development of youth.  And I'm still hoping that Huw Jennings be made Director of Football above Kit Symons.
Nogood "pack up your troubles in your old Kit bag, isit" Boyo

Lighthouse

Quote from: NogoodBoyo on October 27, 2014, 12:31:19 AM
Sorry, Lighthouse, I still don't hear an answer as to how you know Ali Mac was not listened to by the owner.  And weren't you the one who coined the phrase that "he was the one constant throughout our last three disastrous management decisions?"
On the other hand, what I do recall is that Khan said he listened to and trusted Mac as his man on the ground.  Mac should have been fired ages ago.  His advice and his management decisions were terrible.
I do agree that the club needs to ensure the next CEO continues the development of youth.  And I'm still hoping that Huw Jennings be made Director of Football above Kit Symons.
Nogood "pack up your troubles in your old Kit bag, isit" Boyo

I was the one that came up with that wonderful  comment and have already stated that I blamed the MD. However the decisions to allow Felix to take over many aspects including much of what the MD was doing means that the MD would have very little input in that. I have since learned from Horace Wellington the Third, that our owner  has taken advice from people outside football and the club. You say 'his advice and his decisions' were terrible. Where is the proof that his advice and decisions suddenly turned from making sense and being part of a well run club to being that of a mad man who seemed to have lost any understanding of how a club is run. Which oddly coincided with Khans arrival. Thus putting Horace and his insider knowledge together with the logic of the situation I have changed my original view. Ali Mac is innocent. Our owner and his advisers are not.
The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

We may yet hear the horse talk.

I can stand my own despair but not others hope


Logicalman

#15
The unfortunate truth is that Ali was praised by Khan in the February Press conference appointing Felix:: http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/february/14/magath-appointed

Statement from Shahid Khan

"I'm very happy to welcome Felix Magath to Fulham Football Club. Felix is an accomplished manager with multiple honours in the Bundesliga and a hunger to replicate his success with Fulham in the Barclays Premier League. I'm especially impressed with the reputation Felix has for coming into clubs at difficult times, often late in the season, and lifting them to their potential and beyond. Felix knows that is precisely the task awaiting him at Fulham, and he made it abundantly clear that he wants and is ready for the opportunity.

"Our Club has shown promise in recent matches, but the fact is we haven't won a league match since 1st January. Given our form, we can no longer merely hope that our fortunes will finally turn. And with 12 matches remaining and at least four points separating us from safety, we certainly can no longer post empty results. Action was required.

"Alistair Mackintosh did a wonderful job during the January transfer window to improve our Club. This week, Alistair recommended Felix, with his history of producing results for clubs with similar challenges as ours, as the new manager of Fulham. Alistair's recommendation received my complete approval and Felix has my unequivocal support."



Statement from Alistair Mackintosh

"The opportunity to bring in a manager with the experience of Felix Magath would typically be unlikely at this point in the season. However, Felix relishes this challenge. He's very impressed with our squad and commitment by Mr Khan, and his confidence is precisely what we need over these final three months of the season. I thank Mr Khan for his support and we're all looking forward to welcoming Felix to Fulham."




Ali served Fulham & MaF well since joining us from Citeh, and so to see the 'sudden' descent into chaos that engulfed the club in the last 18 months is just a little surprising if it was just down to one person.
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the nutflush

Quote from: Nero on October 26, 2014, 05:39:32 PM
Know it doesnt mean much but jol said on talksport recently that ali mac was one of the best in the game at what he does and getting players to sign. Its not his fault he wasnt allowed to spend money

Rubbish. Ali Mac was responsible for bringing in Mitroglou.  He spent a bit there didn't he?


alfie

It's funny none of us are actually involved in any FFC meetings, decision making, who does what why and where, who is signed not signed and yet we pick a person and that person is responsible for everything, funny how we know this.


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Nero

Quote from: the nutflush on October 27, 2014, 08:08:37 AM
Quote from: Nero on October 26, 2014, 05:39:32 PM
Know it doesnt mean much but jol said on talksport recently that ali mac was one of the best in the game at what he does and getting players to sign. Its not his fault he wasnt allowed to spend money

Rubbish. Ali Mac was responsible for bringing in Mitroglou.  He spent a bit there didn't he?
Of course hes responsible thats his job but did he recommend him or was he told to get him. 11mill over 3 plus years in tbe premiership is not a lot of money. It was Mo lack of.spending getting ready to sell that has cost Fulham not ali mac who has carried out his bosses instructions. If he spent 40mill a sesaon would he still be in a job?