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NFR.If I were not an Englishman....

Started by robert, February 05, 2015, 11:11:25 AM

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rogerpbackinMidEastUS

#40
near Westminster Bridge next to Big Ben and the Houses of Parliament

It's a huge statue very prominent, which considering 99% of the population couldn't even tell you who she was
or, like me, knows very little about her
VERY DAFT AND A LOT DAFTER THAN I SEEM, SOMETIMES

Neil D

Quote from: Berserker on February 06, 2015, 01:10:24 PM
Quote from: Martinsback on February 06, 2015, 12:28:04 PM
I suspect that they spoke in a similar way to the Welsh and Gaelic speakers as theirs is the original language of the Celts.
And Bretons
Indeed.  My wife tells a story about how her Welsh-speaking mother was on the receiving end of some snide comments in a Breton restaurant spoken in Breton in the 1950s.  As she left, she let them know exactly what she thought of them in Welsh.

Rupert

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 06, 2015, 02:40:10 PM
Also were you aware that Rupert The Bear and Attila the Hun have the same middle name.

Yes I am aware.

We have other things in common too.

:021:
Any fool can criticise, condemn and complain, and most fools do.


Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: Rupert on February 06, 2015, 03:28:37 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 06, 2015, 02:40:10 PM
Also were you aware that Rupert The Bear and Attila the Hun have the same middle name.

Yes I am aware.

We have other things in common too.

:021:


Like wearing the same coloured pyjamas.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

Holders


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Boadicea was Queen of the Iceni Tribe in Eastern England
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She came from what is now East Anglia, named after the East Angles, who landed in the 5th century. When Boudicca was around, it was in Roman Britain and she was a Briton, i.e. a Celt. It wasn't England then.
Non sumus statione ferriviaria

Lighthouse

There is a reconstruction of a camp/fort in Suffolk/Norfolk of Lady Bods place. Plus a chariot reconstruction of hers that is based on bits dug up in the area. Many years ago I went there and if it still exists is well worth a visit.
The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

We may yet hear the horse talk.

I can stand my own despair but not others hope


Lighthouse

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 06, 2015, 04:34:15 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 06, 2015, 04:22:03 PM
There is a reconstruction of a camp/fort in Suffolk/Norfolk of Lady Bods place. Plus a chariot reconstruction of hers that is based on bits dug up in the area. Many years ago I went there and if it still exists is well worth a visit.

Do you know if her Chariot had those blades sticking out from centre of it's  Wheels.

Don't think it did. I believe that was an invention later.
The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

We may yet hear the horse talk.

I can stand my own despair but not others hope

Mince n Tatties

Quote from: Lighthouse on February 06, 2015, 04:22:03 PM
There is a reconstruction of a camp/fort in Suffolk/Norfolk of Lady Bods place. Plus a chariot reconstruction of hers that is based on bits dug up in the area. Many years ago I went there and if it still exists is well worth a visit.

Do you nean Stonea camp and hill fort at March in Cambs.
Ive been there not too far from me in Newmarket which was Iceni territory....

Rupert

Quote from: Lighthouse on February 06, 2015, 04:35:50 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 06, 2015, 04:34:15 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 06, 2015, 04:22:03 PM
There is a reconstruction of a camp/fort in Suffolk/Norfolk of Lady Bods place. Plus a chariot reconstruction of hers that is based on bits dug up in the area. Many years ago I went there and if it still exists is well worth a visit.

Do you know if her Chariot had those blades sticking out from centre of it's  Wheels.

Don't think it did. I believe that was an invention later.

What my colleague is too modest to mention is that he went there many years ago in a previous life, when he was a Roman soldier sent to "escort" the great lady and her daughters out of their home, which the Romans were taking over, and the mistreatment of her and the girls that ensued led to the uprising and subsequent destruction of Colchester, St Albans and London.
A lot of our ideas about history, including spikes on chariot wheels, comes from the Victorians who were very enthusiastic, but not above making things up to spice them up a bit.

Going back to Guido, he did not have a flaming torch, else he would almost certainly have blown the place up and took his captors with him. He knew he was a dead man once they caught him. His fate was hanging by the neck until almost dead, then being slit open, his internal organs being taken out and burned in front of his eyes. Once he was almost dead he was decapitated, his body hacked into quarters and then his head set on a spike on London Bridge, with the rest of his body displayed on spikes at prominent cities around the kingdom, especially York, where he came from.

Say what you like about the Stuarts, they didn't muck about with law and order and they had very few repeat offenders.
Any fool can criticise, condemn and complain, and most fools do.


Lighthouse

#49
My original lighthouse picture was lost when FOF changed supplier, The picture was kindly put up for me. Sadly since then I have had problems with my memory, So for the life of me I cannot remember for the time being which lighthouse it is. I shall try and find out. (Could be Lundy)

As per the camp/fort - I could well mean the Stonea camp and Hill fort. Again memory isn't what it was. I went there with my family and since none of them are still with us to ask, again I shall have to check.I remember a pretend head on a spear as decoration around the fort.

My learned friend Rupert is correct as per my previous job. Lady B (as I called her)  and her daughter were very nice to me and gave me cake. Most of what we know from history at school was an invention.

I am clearly amongst cleverererer people than what I is.
The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

We may yet hear the horse talk.

I can stand my own despair but not others hope

Holders

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 06, 2015, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: Holders on February 06, 2015, 04:09:13 PM


Boadicea was Queen of the Iceni Tribe in Eastern England

She came from what is now East Anglia, named after the East Angles, who landed in the 5th century. When Boudicca was around, it was in Roman Britain and she was a Briton, i.e. a Celt. It wasn't England then.
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I don't think they had Central Heating in those days either
[/quote]

As a matter of fact, the Romans did.
Non sumus statione ferriviaria

Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: Rupert on February 06, 2015, 05:04:02 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 06, 2015, 04:35:50 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 06, 2015, 04:34:15 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 06, 2015, 04:22:03 PM
There is a reconstruction of a camp/fort in Suffolk/Norfolk of Lady Bods place. Plus a chariot reconstruction of hers that is based on bits dug up in the area. Many years ago I went there and if it still exists is well worth a visit.

Do you know if her Chariot had those blades sticking out from centre of it's  Wheels.

Don't think it did. I believe that was an invention later.

What my colleague is too modest to mention is that he went there many years ago in a previous life, when he was a Roman soldier sent to "escort" the great lady and her daughters out of their home, which the Romans were taking over, and the mistreatment of her and the girls that ensued led to the uprising and subsequent destruction of Colchester, St Albans and London.
A lot of our ideas about history, including spikes on chariot wheels, comes from the Victorians who were very enthusiastic, but not above making things up to spice them up a bit.

Going back to Guido, he did not have a flaming torch, else he would almost certainly have blown the place up and took his captors with him. He knew he was a dead man once they caught him. His fate was hanging by the neck until almost dead, then being slit open, his internal organs being taken out and burned in front of his eyes. Once he was almost dead he was decapitated, his body hacked into quarters and then his head set on a spike on London Bridge, with the rest of his body displayed on spikes at prominent cities around the kingdom, especially York, where he came from.

Say what you like about the Stuarts, they didn't muck about with law and order and they had very few repeat offenders.


Interesting information, they sound a charming bunch.  it's a pity they do not use those methods these days. It might cut down the shoplifting
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.


Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: Holders on February 06, 2015, 05:29:18 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 06, 2015, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: Holders on February 06, 2015, 04:09:13 PM


Boadicea was Queen of the Iceni Tribe in Eastern England

She came from what is now East Anglia, named after the East Angles, who landed in the 5th century. When Boudicca was around, it was in Roman Britain and she was a Briton, i.e. a Celt. It wasn't England then.

I don't think they had Central Heating in those days either
[/quote]

As a matter of fact, the Romans did.
[/quote]


Those Romans were no mugs
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: Lighthouse on February 06, 2015, 05:19:24 PM
My original lighthouse picture was lost when FOF changed supplier, The picture was kindly put up for me. Sadly since then I have had problems with my memory, So for the life of me I cannot remember for the time being which lighthouse it is. I shall try and find out. (Could be Lundy)

As per the camp/fort - I could well mean the Stonea camp and Hill fort. Again memory isn't what it was. I went there with my family and since none of them are still with us to ask, again I shall have to check.I remember a pretend head on a spear as decoration around the fort.

My learned friend Rupert is correct as per my previous job. Lady B (as I called her)  and her daughter were very nice to me and gave me cake. Most of what we know from history at school was an invention.

I am clearly amongst cleverererer people than what I is.


Would that Lighthouse, Lighthouse, be near Mevagissey in Cornwall. ?
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

Woolly Mammoth

Lighthouse. Did you say you have recently had trouble with your memory?  Because I hope you haven't forgotten about that 500 hundred quid I lent you. 
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.


Lighthouse

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 06, 2015, 05:49:29 PM
Lighthouse. Did you say you have recently had trouble with your memory?  Because I hope you haven't forgotten about that 500 hundred quid I lent you. 

I had to be honest with you. Don't worry I have a cheque book and will write you a cheque. Now where did I put it? I put it down and.......sorry what was it you wanted?
The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

We may yet hear the horse talk.

I can stand my own despair but not others hope

Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: Rupert on February 06, 2015, 05:04:02 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 06, 2015, 04:35:50 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 06, 2015, 04:34:15 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 06, 2015, 04:22:03 PM
There is a reconstruction of a camp/fort in Suffolk/Norfolk of Lady Bods place. Plus a chariot reconstruction of hers that is based on bits dug up in the area. Many years ago I went there and if it still exists is well worth a visit.

Do you know if her Chariot had those blades sticking out from centre of it's  Wheels.

Don't think it did. I believe that was an invention later.

What my colleague is too modest to mention is that he went there many years ago in a previous life, when he was a Roman soldier sent to "escort" the great lady and her daughters out of their home, which the Romans were taking over, and the mistreatment of her and the girls that ensued led to the uprising and subsequent destruction of Colchester, St Albans and London.
A lot of our ideas about history, including spikes on chariot wheels, comes from the Victorians who were very enthusiastic, but not above making things up to spice them up a bit.

Going back to Guido, he did not have a flaming torch, else he would almost certainly have blown the place up and took his captors with him. He knew he was a dead man once they caught him. His fate was hanging by the neck until almost dead, then being slit open, his internal organs being taken out and burned in front of his eyes. Once he was almost dead he was decapitated, his body hacked into quarters and then his head set on a spike on London Bridge, with the rest of his body displayed on spikes at prominent cities around the kingdom, especially York, where he came from.

Say what you like about the Stuarts, they didn't muck about with law and order and they had very few repeat offenders.

So there is no truth in the Rumour about that Guido Fawkes through himself off or attempted to throw himself off the scaffold to try and break his own neck, to avoid any further pain from his torturers.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

robert

Beating the Welsh on their turf at rugby(their national sport and religion)makes you pleased to be English!!!


Twig

Going back to the original question, I was thinking how nice it would be to be French living in Annecy.  Beautiful place, wonderful lake swimming, good skiing and golf nearby, some great restaurants.  Fantastic quality of life.

Big Martin Jol

To be born English is to claim second prize in the lottery of life.

First is Italian, obviously.
Scott Parker is the greatest living Englishman.