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The 2016 Official Silly Summer Season Transfer Thread

Started by Friendsoffulham, May 04, 2016, 07:27:44 PM

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filham

Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 06:18:06 PM
Quote from: filham on May 31, 2016, 05:51:43 PM
Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 05:38:24 PM
Quote from: FFChris on May 31, 2016, 05:12:22 PM
Just seen this on the Sky Transfer feed:

FULHAM LINKED TO TURKISH DEFENDER

Bursaspor centre back Serdar Aziz is reportedly a target for Fulham and Besiktas, according to reports in Turkey.

The Turkish international, 25, has spent his entire career at Bursaspor but has "two serious offers" to consider over the summer, one of which reports claim is from Fulham.

Every player has his price and Serdar 'as 'is.
We need to make it clear that we cannot let him ponder any offer from us all summer as we did last year with the Brighton centre half. We need new players up and running by the start of the season .


Yes, but we always do. That's the way it seems to work. Players and selling clubs want to see what offers come in and take their pick.

So then we start next season with the squad that finished last season, some of whom are expecting to move on and a few who have picked up pre season injuries. We could well be bottom of the table by the end of August.

Holders

Quote from: filham on May 31, 2016, 06:32:58 PM
Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 06:18:06 PM
Quote from: filham on May 31, 2016, 05:51:43 PM
Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 05:38:24 PM
Quote from: FFChris on May 31, 2016, 05:12:22 PM
Just seen this on the Sky Transfer feed:

FULHAM LINKED TO TURKISH DEFENDER

Bursaspor centre back Serdar Aziz is reportedly a target for Fulham and Besiktas, according to reports in Turkey.

The Turkish international, 25, has spent his entire career at Bursaspor but has "two serious offers" to consider over the summer, one of which reports claim is from Fulham.

Every player has his price and Serdar 'as 'is.
We need to make it clear that we cannot let him ponder any offer from us all summer as we did last year with the Brighton centre half. We need new players up and running by the start of the season .


Yes, but we always do. That's the way it seems to work. Players and selling clubs want to see what offers come in and take their pick.

So then we start next season with the squad that finished last season, some of whom are expecting to move on and a few who have picked up pre season injuries. We could well be bottom of the table by the end of August.

Every season it seems as if it's particularly important to get players in early so they can do pre-season together but it never works out that way. Of course, in an ideal world it would. Conversely, some of the player who eventually leave us may well not do so in that timescale either.
Non sumus statione ferriviaria

westcliff white

Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 06:55:27 PM
Quote from: filham on May 31, 2016, 06:32:58 PM
Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 06:18:06 PM
Quote from: filham on May 31, 2016, 05:51:43 PM
Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 05:38:24 PM
Quote from: FFChris on May 31, 2016, 05:12:22 PM
Just seen this on the Sky Transfer feed:

FULHAM LINKED TO TURKISH DEFENDER

Bursaspor centre back Serdar Aziz is reportedly a target for Fulham and Besiktas, according to reports in Turkey.

The Turkish international, 25, has spent his entire career at Bursaspor but has "two serious offers" to consider over the summer, one of which reports claim is from Fulham.

Every player has his price and Serdar 'as 'is.
We need to make it clear that we cannot let him ponder any offer from us all summer as we did last year with the Brighton centre half. We need new players up and running by the start of the season .


Yes, but we always do. That's the way it seems to work. Players and selling clubs want to see what offers come in and take their pick.

So then we start next season with the squad that finished last season, some of whom are expecting to move on and a few who have picked up pre season injuries. We could well be bottom of the table by the end of August.

Every season it seems as if it's particularly important to get players in early so they can do pre-season together but it never works out that way. Of course, in an ideal world it would. Conversely, some of the player who eventually leave us may well not do so in that timescale either.
Most of the time it is not in the buying clubs hand unless your willing to pay over the odds for someone
Every day is a Fulham day


Holders

Quote from: westcliff white on May 31, 2016, 07:28:29 PM
Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 06:55:27 PM
Quote from: filham on May 31, 2016, 06:32:58 PM
Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 06:18:06 PM
Quote from: filham on May 31, 2016, 05:51:43 PM
Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 05:38:24 PM
Quote from: FFChris on May 31, 2016, 05:12:22 PM
Just seen this on the Sky Transfer feed:

FULHAM LINKED TO TURKISH DEFENDER

Bursaspor centre back Serdar Aziz is reportedly a target for Fulham and Besiktas, according to reports in Turkey.

The Turkish international, 25, has spent his entire career at Bursaspor but has "two serious offers" to consider over the summer, one of which reports claim is from Fulham.

Every player has his price and Serdar 'as 'is.
We need to make it clear that we cannot let him ponder any offer from us all summer as we did last year with the Brighton centre half. We need new players up and running by the start of the season .


Yes, but we always do. That's the way it seems to work. Players and selling clubs want to see what offers come in and take their pick.

So then we start next season with the squad that finished last season, some of whom are expecting to move on and a few who have picked up pre season injuries. We could well be bottom of the table by the end of August.

Every season it seems as if it's particularly important to get players in early so they can do pre-season together but it never works out that way. Of course, in an ideal world it would. Conversely, some of the player who eventually leave us may well not do so in that timescale either.
Most of the time it is not in the buying clubs hand unless your willing to pay over the odds for someone

Precisely, so even if we want players in early it's not always that easy. And the same goes for other clubs, it's not our people dragging their feet.
Non sumus statione ferriviaria

filham

Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 07:38:12 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on May 31, 2016, 07:28:29 PM
Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 06:55:27 PM
Quote from: filham on May 31, 2016, 06:32:58 PM
Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 06:18:06 PM
Quote from: filham on May 31, 2016, 05:51:43 PM
Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 05:38:24 PM
Quote from: FFChris on May 31, 2016, 05:12:22 PM
Just seen this on the Sky Transfer feed:

FULHAM LINKED TO TURKISH DEFENDER

Bursaspor centre back Serdar Aziz is reportedly a target for Fulham and Besiktas, according to reports in Turkey.

The Turkish international, 25, has spent his entire career at Bursaspor but has "two serious offers" to consider over the summer, one of which reports claim is from Fulham.

Every player has his price and Serdar 'as 'is.
We need to make it clear that we cannot let him ponder any offer from us all summer as we did last year with the Brighton centre half. We need new players up and running by the start of the season .


Yes, but we always do. That's the way it seems to work. Players and selling clubs want to see what offers come in and take their pick.

So then we start next season with the squad that finished last season, some of whom are expecting to move on and a few who have picked up pre season injuries. We could well be bottom of the table by the end of August.

Every season it seems as if it's particularly important to get players in early so they can do pre-season together but it never works out that way. Of course, in an ideal world it would. Conversely, some of the player who eventually leave us may well not do so in that timescale either.
Most of the time it is not in the buying clubs hand unless your willing to pay over the odds for someone

Precisely, so even if we want players in early it's not always that easy. And the same goes for other clubs, it's not our people dragging their feet.
Surely it must be worth a little extra to get the player you want in at the end of June rather than at the end of August.

westcliff white

Quote from: filham on May 31, 2016, 08:43:23 PM
Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 07:38:12 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on May 31, 2016, 07:28:29 PM
Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 06:55:27 PM
Quote from: filham on May 31, 2016, 06:32:58 PM
Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 06:18:06 PM
Quote from: filham on May 31, 2016, 05:51:43 PM
Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 05:38:24 PM
Quote from: FFChris on May 31, 2016, 05:12:22 PM
Just seen this on the Sky Transfer feed:

FULHAM LINKED TO TURKISH DEFENDER

Bursaspor centre back Serdar Aziz is reportedly a target for Fulham and Besiktas, according to reports in Turkey.

The Turkish international, 25, has spent his entire career at Bursaspor but has "two serious offers" to consider over the summer, one of which reports claim is from Fulham.

Every player has his price and Serdar 'as 'is.
We need to make it clear that we cannot let him ponder any offer from us all summer as we did last year with the Brighton centre half. We need new players up and running by the start of the season .


Yes, but we always do. That's the way it seems to work. Players and selling clubs want to see what offers come in and take their pick.

So then we start next season with the squad that finished last season, some of whom are expecting to move on and a few who have picked up pre season injuries. We could well be bottom of the table by the end of August.

Every season it seems as if it's particularly important to get players in early so they can do pre-season together but it never works out that way. Of course, in an ideal world it would. Conversely, some of the player who eventually leave us may well not do so in that timescale either.
Most of the time it is not in the buying clubs hand unless your willing to pay over the odds for someone

Precisely, so even if we want players in early it's not always that easy. And the same goes for other clubs, it's not our people dragging their feet.
Surely it must be worth a little extra to get the player you want in at the end of June rather than at the end of August.
It could be yes, but how much is a little. Take Man Utd they had to pay 5 million pounds more for Memphis to do the deal early. Now we wont be talking that much for us but if we have a budget to spend of 25 million in total to spend, and then offer 5 Million for a player but are told we have to wait till August do we do that? or do we pay say 7 million to get him now if that's what we are quoted? you go from a 5th of your budget too a over a quarter of your budget being spent. Is it worth it?

Its relative but we cannot be held to ransom if it means we cannot get all or most of our targets
Every day is a Fulham day


Holders

It would soon get around that we were prepared to pay over the odds then that would become the starting point. We on this forum might not like it but that's the way it is in the real world.
Non sumus statione ferriviaria

copthornemike

Quote from: FFChris on May 31, 2016, 05:12:22 PM
Just seen this on the Sky Transfer feed:

FULHAM LINKED TO TURKISH DEFENDER

Bursaspor centre back Serdar Aziz is reportedly a target for Fulham and Besiktas, according to reports in Turkey.

The Turkish international, 25, has spent his entire career at Bursaspor but has "two serious offers" to consider over the summer, one of which reports claim is from Fulham.
To be honest I do not know anything about him - but he did not make the final cut for the Turkish team for the Euros which may change his perspective on a move.

HillingdonFFC

Quote from: copthornemike on May 31, 2016, 09:49:19 PM
Quote from: FFChris on May 31, 2016, 05:12:22 PM
Just seen this on the Sky Transfer feed:

FULHAM LINKED TO TURKISH DEFENDER

Bursaspor centre back Serdar Aziz is reportedly a target for Fulham and Besiktas, according to reports in Turkey.

The Turkish international, 25, has spent his entire career at Bursaspor but has "two serious offers" to consider over the summer, one of which reports claim is from Fulham.
To be honest I do not know anything about him - but he did not make the final cut for the Turkish team for the Euros which may change his perspective on a move.

Wasn't selected due to some niggling injuries apparently


westcliff white

Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 09:24:31 PM
It would soon get around that we were prepared to pay over the odds then that would become the starting point. We on this forum might not like it but that's the way it is in the real world.
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Every day is a Fulham day

BedsFFC

It is about this time of year in this part of the thread that I remind people of a move Fulham did that I was quite proud of. We announced just at the end of the season that Bullard was joining in July.

It came out that we had had discussions and had said to his agent that if anything was leaked before the agreement was made that the deal would be off. I suppose we had a bit more clout then.

colinwhite

The turk sounds good but he is only 6 feet tall. We need someone good and a lot taller


westcliff white

Quote from: BedsFFC on May 31, 2016, 11:18:25 PM
It is about this time of year in this part of the thread that I remind people of a move Fulham did that I was quite proud of. We announced just at the end of the season that Bullard was joining in July.

It came out that we had had discussions and had said to his agent that if anything was leaked before the agreement was made that the deal would be off. I suppose we had a bit more clout then.
Jimmy also had a release clause that me met, which meant Wigan could not refuse, hence why we managed to do the deal early, in fact before the season ended I believe. I also think Jimmy missed the last game or two of the season for Wigan.
Every day is a Fulham day

westcliff white

Quote from: colinwhite on June 01, 2016, 05:52:21 AM
The turk sounds good but he is only 6 feet tall. We need someone good and a lot taller
Some said the same about Madl but he started well and the became consistent.
Every day is a Fulham day

HillingdonFFC

Not always easy to make sense of translated articles but it looks like Besiktas have offered 3 million euros plus two players for Serdar Aziz today. Looks like Bursaspor value him at 8 million euros


gang

Quote from: Holders on May 31, 2016, 09:24:31 PM
It would soon get around that we were prepared to pay over the odds then that would become the starting point. We on this forum might not like it but that's the way it is in the real world.

Agreed, then we get into the Malcolm Allison Syndrom of  over paying.

filham

Quote from: colinwhite on June 01, 2016, 05:52:21 AM
The turk sounds good but he is only 6 feet tall. We need someone good and a lot taller
You also have to consider how high he can jump and then add that to his height, may be he is a high jumper.

Northern Cottager

Quote from: HillingdonFFC on June 01, 2016, 08:58:07 AM
Not always easy to make sense of translated articles but it looks like Besiktas have offered 3 million euros plus two players for Serdar Aziz today. Looks like Bursaspor value him at 8 million euros

We'll offer them £500, an open top bus tour of Hammersmith and 5% of the profits from sales of Billy the Badger stuffed toys from the club shop then.


westcliff white

Woolly the same was said of Madl as well he has turned out to be decent, but I agree with the sentiment that centre backs are usually taller and around the 6'3" height
Every day is a Fulham day

MJG

Quote from: Statto on June 01, 2016, 05:00:34 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on June 01, 2016, 01:31:42 PM
Woolly the same was said of Madl as well he has turned out to be decent, but I agree with the sentiment that centre backs are usually taller and around the 6'3" height

The jury's still out on Madl IMO. We only saw him for six months, during which he was playing with the clear aim of making permanent a short-term move. Let's see if he sustains that next season, without the special incentive.

In any case, whilst his composure, reading of the game, concentration, marking, timing of tackles etc. are all there, at the end of the day we still don't look any better defending set pieces with him in the team.

I think short centre-backs are like slow strikers. It's not ideal but you can perhaps get away with one of them in the team (eg Ross up front) if they've other qualities. But then it's absolutely vital their partner doesn't share the same inadequacy.
I wouldn't say the jury is out on Madl with vast majority of fans. Almost to a man most seem happy with him joining on a permanent contract. I'd be ok with him and getting rid of pretty much every other one of the main defenders who played last season and starting again.