Late challenges

[hopper]

Just watching a recording of match of the day and seen the Xhaka red which was an embarrassingly late lunge.

This got me thinking about how I often see tackles which are so terrible that they miss the guy completely but are cynical in attempt but go unpunished. Always something which has annoyed me and seems like poor refereeing not to punish these examples.

Seem to remember it happened with a QPR player the other week.

Has anyone here ever seen anyone booked for a case like this?

[Lighthouse]

It is a good point. But hard I guess to enforce unless the attempted tackle was obviously reckless. 

I shoot somebody and miss. I shoot somebody and injure them. I shoot somebody and kill them. Three different outcomes but the same intent but three different punishments. The same with tackles and fouls. If that makes sense.

[cmg]

A few choice examples of late challenges yesterday.
A couple on Aluko so late they almost made it to next week's highlights.

[NogoodBoyo]

A few choice examples of late challenges yesterday.
A couple on Aluko so late they almost made it to next week's highlights.

Careful, CMG, or you'll be reported for excess use of un-warrented humour.
Nogood "stirring the pot, isit" Boyo

[NogoodBoyo]

By the way, your post was very funny.
Nogood "trumpeting the maverick, isit" Boyo

[hopper]

It is a good point. But hard I guess to enforce unless the attempted tackle was obviously reckless. 

I shoot somebody and miss. I shoot somebody and injure them. I shoot somebody and kill them. Three different outcomes but the same intent but three different punishments. The same with tackles and fouls. If that makes sense.

I guess its obviously reckless unless there is some visible sign of pulling out.

I think it should be a definite yellow when it happens.

[HatterDon]

I remember several seasons ago when young Mr. Rosenior saw a straight red against Reading at the Cottage. He dived in at a Reading player, missed, but was dismissed because, in the opinion of the ref, the intent was there. I remember the Royals diminutive Irish striker intervening with the ref in Rosenior's defense, but the thing was done.

As for Xhaka, I was watching the match when that happened. The announcer said he had something like 7 or 8 straight reds over the last three seasons. Talk about form.

[YankeeJim]

If I were a Barnsley fan I'd be be upset at the lack of quality they displayed and the fact that they just quit after Martin's goal. The last ten minutes it looked like a FFC passing drill. That and Tony Pulis would have loved this team. One cheap shot after another. The red was just an over eager and sloppy tackle and I don't think the hit was intended. But so many others: Odoi looked like a punching bag on occasion and the cleats on Cairney's ankle was totally intentional.

Now if we can just get that counter business sorted.

[Bill2]

If I were a Barnsley fan I'd be be upset at the lack of quality they displayed and the fact that they just quit after Martin's goal. The last ten minutes it looked like a FFC passing drill. That and Tony Pulis would have loved this team. One cheap shot after another. The red was just an over eager and sloppy tackle and I don't think the hit was intended. But so many others: Odoi looked like a punching bag on occasion and the cleats on Cairney's ankle was totally intentional.

Now if we can just get that counter business sorted.

Looking at the highlights the red was a red, he missed the ball completely and had he taken Scotty P's ankles would have broken his leg. They didn't show any of the other tackles which have been mentioned.

[epsomraver]

The law says that intent is enough for a booking or dismissal, the fact there is contact or not is irrelevant

[YankeeJim]

If I were a Barnsley fan I'd be be upset at the lack of quality they displayed and the fact that they just quit after Martin's goal. The last ten minutes it looked like a FFC passing drill. That and Tony Pulis would have loved this team. One cheap shot after another. The red was just an over eager and sloppy tackle and I don't think the hit was intended. But so many others: Odoi looked like a punching bag on occasion and the cleats on Cairney's ankle was totally intentional.

Now if we can just get that counter business sorted.

Looking at the highlights the red was a red, he missed the ball completely and had he taken Scotty P's ankles would have broken his leg. They didn't show any of the other tackles which have been mentioned.

On the highlight video, just click on the location indicator and roll it back a bit. Voila, instant replay.