Wolves investment

[Baszab]

How is it that Wolves seemed to have spent what they like this year ?

They must be determined to get promoted - whatever that means

[MJG]

They are within the three year allowed losses so have plenty of room to spend. For a start they made a profit two years ago.

[MJG]

They are within the three year allowed losses so have plenty of room to spend. For a start they made a profit two years ago.

they've spent £50m in the last two years, they must be bloody close even with a profit the year before

i suppose some of the last two years' spending will be accounted for over a longer term, 4 or 5 years, if that's the length of the relevant contracts

but as you say it's not as simple as transfers alone, surely their revenue is not covering all these big wages so they must be making an operating loss each year as well

IMO it will catch up with them if they don't go up this year

I have them losing money last year and this, but the key is the 39m over three years.
If we use Transfer market (not perfect I grant you) they are about -45M in transfers over the 3 years. Take the profit and then they are going to be mighty close.

Agree its almost poo or bust for them this season.

[fulhamben]

They are within the three year allowed losses so have plenty of room to spend. For a start they made a profit two years ago.

they've spent £50m in the last two years, they must be bloody close even with a profit the year before

i suppose some of the last two years' spending will be accounted for over a longer term, 4 or 5 years, if that's the length of the relevant contracts

but as you say it's not as simple as transfers alone, surely their revenue is not covering all these big wages so they must be making an operating loss each year as well

IMO it will catch up with them if they don't go up this year

I have them losing money last year and this, but the key is the 39m over three years.
If we use Transfer market (not perfect I grant you) they are about -45M in transfers over the 3 years. Take the profit and then they are going to be mighty close.

Agree its almost poo or bust for them this season.

early days, but I'd be surprised if they don't walk it

[Jims Dentist]

There doing great now.
When winter, and all that it brings arrives, will they sustain their current form?

[nose]

if we get the last of the jig saw in place we will be best placed. we have the best manager and that will tip the scales massively in our favour

[Baszab]

Agreed - played pretty well for 3 games - just a shame we can't consolidate our team with purchases before the season starts 

[AlexW132]

All it could take is a couple of injuries and bust it is

[The Old Count]

Where there's a will there's a way.

There are ways of minimising the effect of FFP if you're creative. Rules can be stretched, alternative Profit streams can be introduced.  I bet they have a dedicated person on board to sort that side of things.

[toshes mate]

if we get the last of the jig saw in place we will be best placed. we have the best manager and that will tip the scales massively in our favour

That has always been true, and with Khan Jnr and his cronies playing catch-up  I hope this window will prove they have learned their lessons and start to truly believe in the concept of playing as a team rather than for their own egos.

[westcliff white]

Where there's a will there's a way.

There are ways of minimising the effect of FFP if you're creative. Rules can be stretched, alternative Profit streams can be introduced.  I bet they have a dedicated person on board to sort that side of things.

Thats what Casper whats his name is for isnt it, alternate revenue streams. We now have new sponsors, 2 year deal paying more than VF apparently, PES on the back of the shirts as well, seems ot be moving in the right direction

[Woolly Mammoth]

They are within the three year allowed losses so have plenty of room to spend. For a start they made a profit two years ago.

they've spent £50m in the last two years, they must be bloody close even with a profit the year before

i suppose some of the last two years' spending will be accounted for over a longer term, 4 or 5 years, if that's the length of the relevant contracts

but as you say it's not as simple as transfers alone, surely their revenue is not covering all these big wages so they must be making an operating loss each year as well

IMO it will catch up with them if they don't go up this year

I have them losing money last year and this, but the key is the 39m over three years.
If we use Transfer market (not perfect I grant you) they are about -45M in transfers over the 3 years. Take the profit and then they are going to be mighty close.

Agree its almost poo or bust for them this season.

early days, but I'd be surprised if they don't walk it

You may be in for a surprise then Ben.
That's a massive statement to make, there are banana skins all over the Championship, and this seasons results so far have shown that this year is no different. So many teams will fancy themselves for a top six place. As well as there will be teams fighting for their lives down the other end.
What Wolves have done, is backed their ambitions with money💰💷💶, and thrown down the gauntlet early, and every team will pick that gauntlet up knowing how much Wolves have spent, and use that as a club to beat them over the head with.
So Wolves will have to earn every point they get, as teams will mark their card, as teams do in any division.
So for them it could be far from easy.

[@jolslover]

Wolves have only spent 2.5m more than us.....

[Woolly Mammoth]

Wolves have only spent 1.5m more than us.....

Then we had better watch for Banana skins also.
The big difference is, Wolves have won all their matches, and are sitting joint top.
So the attention at the moment is currently on them.

[Tabby]

Wolves have only spent 1.5m more than us.....

Gross

Net it is a bigger difference

And look at last season as well

According to Transfermarkt, we have a net spend of roughly 8 million and Wolves have a net spend of 20 million.

[The Old Count]

Where there's a will there's a way.

There are ways of minimising the effect of FFP if you're creative. Rules can be stretched, alternative Profit streams can be introduced.  I bet they have a dedicated person on board to sort that side of things.

Thats what Casper whats his name is for isnt it, alternate revenue streams. We now have new sponsors, 2 year deal paying more than VF apparently, PES on the back of the shirts as well, seems ot be moving in the right direction

Yes - and more to come I suspect.  Khan's not daft. He'll know what can be done.  Wolves had a bit more leway than us in terms of operating profit and the benefit of a new owner purchase situation which we only had when we were in the Prem.

[@jolslover]

Wolves have only spent 1.5m more than us.....

Gross

Net it is a bigger difference

And look at last season as well

According to Transfermarkt, we have a net spend of roughly 8 million and Wolves have a net spend of 20 million.

That is before the Fonte transfer was included.

[@jolslover]

Wolves have only spent 1.5m more than us.....

Gross

Net it is a bigger difference

And look at last season as well

According to Transfermarkt, we have a net spend of roughly 8 million and Wolves have a net spend of 20 million.

That is before the Fonte transfer was included.

No it will include that, net spend was roughly flat until he signed

...as it was last year when wolves spent another £20-30m!

Ah yeah sorry. I wasn't including money received for players that's why.
I think for whats its worth Wolves will go up. Top manager and 4/5 players that get a start at top half prem sides.