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Started by HatterDon, October 28, 2017, 08:19:52 PM

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HatterDon

you've convinced me ... the season is over ... guess I'll just watch the NBA
"As long as there is light, I will sing." -- Juana, la Cubana

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FFC1987

Quote from: HatterDon on October 30, 2017, 02:12:48 PM
you've convinced me ... the season is over ... guess I'll just watch the NBA

It's not over, but its unlikely to end well in my opinion.

MJG

Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:04:38 PM
Quote from: MJG on October 30, 2017, 11:39:06 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 11:06:23 AM
Yep, now all we need to do is pick u points in games like Newcastle Home/Away, thrash a top 6 side, who got promoted 9.1 on agg and emulate form that is near on unheard of in these leagues and we'll be fine right? Why we worrying for? Daft isn't it when thats all we need to do....

Not really unheard of.

2016-17 Fulham last 23 games 44 pts

2015-16 Burnley last 23 games 55 pts  Brighton 45pts

2014-15 Watford last 23 games 51 pts Norwich 49 pts Bournemouth 45 pts

Unheard of two seasons in a row. Can you at elast agree that its improbable to emulate such form?
Ive said that elsewhere in the projection thread. What im trying not to do is labour the point across countless threads.
But actually it shows that our form last season while great, was actually not as spectacular as can be achieved.
Just the views of a long term fan


FFC1987

Quote from: MJG on October 30, 2017, 02:21:58 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:04:38 PM
Quote from: MJG on October 30, 2017, 11:39:06 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 11:06:23 AM
Yep, now all we need to do is pick u points in games like Newcastle Home/Away, thrash a top 6 side, who got promoted 9.1 on agg and emulate form that is near on unheard of in these leagues and we'll be fine right? Why we worrying for? Daft isn't it when thats all we need to do....

Not really unheard of.

2016-17 Fulham last 23 games 44 pts

2015-16 Burnley last 23 games 55 pts  Brighton 45pts

2014-15 Watford last 23 games 51 pts Norwich 49 pts Bournemouth 45 pts

Unheard of two seasons in a row. Can you at elast agree that its improbable to emulate such form?
Ive said that elsewhere in the projection thread. What im trying not to do is labour the point across countless threads.
But actually it shows that our form last season while great, was actually not as spectacular as can be achieved.

Sure, we'll see. I won't be sore if it does/doesn't happen either way but if I was a betting man, I wouldn't push too favourable odds on us tis all im saying.

Marcel_Gecov

Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:24:36 PM
Quote from: MJG on October 30, 2017, 02:21:58 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:04:38 PM
Quote from: MJG on October 30, 2017, 11:39:06 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 11:06:23 AM
Yep, now all we need to do is pick u points in games like Newcastle Home/Away, thrash a top 6 side, who got promoted 9.1 on agg and emulate form that is near on unheard of in these leagues and we'll be fine right? Why we worrying for? Daft isn't it when thats all we need to do....

Not really unheard of.

2016-17 Fulham last 23 games 44 pts

2015-16 Burnley last 23 games 55 pts  Brighton 45pts

2014-15 Watford last 23 games 51 pts Norwich 49 pts Bournemouth 45 pts

Unheard of two seasons in a row. Can you at elast agree that its improbable to emulate such form?
Ive said that elsewhere in the projection thread. What im trying not to do is labour the point across countless threads.
But actually it shows that our form last season while great, was actually not as spectacular as can be achieved.

Sure, we'll see. I won't be sore if it does/doesn't happen either way but if I was a betting man, I wouldn't push too favourable odds on us tis all im saying.

Last season doesn't mean anything anymore. Our chances of going on a run neither increase nor decrease due to what has happened on the pitch historically.

FFC1987

Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on October 30, 2017, 02:34:18 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:24:36 PM
Quote from: MJG on October 30, 2017, 02:21:58 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:04:38 PM
Quote from: MJG on October 30, 2017, 11:39:06 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 11:06:23 AM
Yep, now all we need to do is pick u points in games like Newcastle Home/Away, thrash a top 6 side, who got promoted 9.1 on agg and emulate form that is near on unheard of in these leagues and we'll be fine right? Why we worrying for? Daft isn't it when thats all we need to do....

Not really unheard of.

2016-17 Fulham last 23 games 44 pts

2015-16 Burnley last 23 games 55 pts  Brighton 45pts

2014-15 Watford last 23 games 51 pts Norwich 49 pts Bournemouth 45 pts

Unheard of two seasons in a row. Can you at elast agree that its improbable to emulate such form?
Ive said that elsewhere in the projection thread. What im trying not to do is labour the point across countless threads.
But actually it shows that our form last season while great, was actually not as spectacular as can be achieved.

Sure, we'll see. I won't be sore if it does/doesn't happen either way but if I was a betting man, I wouldn't push too favourable odds on us tis all im saying.

Last season doesn't mean anything anymore. Our chances of going on a run neither increase nor decrease due to what has happened on the pitch historically.

Then you'll know thats why I've said its a poor barometer to how we've done this season. My pessimism is 100% based on this seasons transfer activity and subsequent below par performances.


Marcel_Gecov

Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on October 30, 2017, 02:34:18 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:24:36 PM
Quote from: MJG on October 30, 2017, 02:21:58 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:04:38 PM
Quote from: MJG on October 30, 2017, 11:39:06 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 11:06:23 AM
Yep, now all we need to do is pick u points in games like Newcastle Home/Away, thrash a top 6 side, who got promoted 9.1 on agg and emulate form that is near on unheard of in these leagues and we'll be fine right? Why we worrying for? Daft isn't it when thats all we need to do....

Not really unheard of.

2016-17 Fulham last 23 games 44 pts

2015-16 Burnley last 23 games 55 pts  Brighton 45pts

2014-15 Watford last 23 games 51 pts Norwich 49 pts Bournemouth 45 pts

Unheard of two seasons in a row. Can you at elast agree that its improbable to emulate such form?
Ive said that elsewhere in the projection thread. What im trying not to do is labour the point across countless threads.
But actually it shows that our form last season while great, was actually not as spectacular as can be achieved.

Sure, we'll see. I won't be sore if it does/doesn't happen either way but if I was a betting man, I wouldn't push too favourable odds on us tis all im saying.

Last season doesn't mean anything anymore. Our chances of going on a run neither increase nor decrease due to what has happened on the pitch historically.

Then you'll know thats why I've said its a poor barometer to how we've done this season. My pessimism is 100% based on this seasons transfer activity and subsequent below par performances.

This quote doesn't back that up - "Unheard of two seasons in a row"


FFC1987

Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on October 30, 2017, 02:51:46 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on October 30, 2017, 02:34:18 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:24:36 PM
Quote from: MJG on October 30, 2017, 02:21:58 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:04:38 PM
Quote from: MJG on October 30, 2017, 11:39:06 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 11:06:23 AM
Yep, now all we need to do is pick u points in games like Newcastle Home/Away, thrash a top 6 side, who got promoted 9.1 on agg and emulate form that is near on unheard of in these leagues and we'll be fine right? Why we worrying for? Daft isn't it when thats all we need to do....

Not really unheard of.

2016-17 Fulham last 23 games 44 pts

2015-16 Burnley last 23 games 55 pts  Brighton 45pts

2014-15 Watford last 23 games 51 pts Norwich 49 pts Bournemouth 45 pts

Unheard of two seasons in a row. Can you at elast agree that its improbable to emulate such form?
Ive said that elsewhere in the projection thread. What im trying not to do is labour the point across countless threads.
But actually it shows that our form last season while great, was actually not as spectacular as can be achieved.

Sure, we'll see. I won't be sore if it does/doesn't happen either way but if I was a betting man, I wouldn't push too favourable odds on us tis all im saying.

Last season doesn't mean anything anymore. Our chances of going on a run neither increase nor decrease due to what has happened on the pitch historically.

Then you'll know thats why I've said its a poor barometer to how we've done this season. My pessimism is 100% based on this seasons transfer activity and subsequent below par performances.

This quote doesn't back that up - "Unheard of two seasons in a row"

The rest does. But yes, I also think statistically speaking, asking a team to run results as high end as we did last year two years in a row, is a stretch and is improbable. We can go over semantics all you like but you can't draw conclusions from one year if its a positive and disregard it if its a negative. Let me put it bluntly, I don't foresee a triumphant run of form that will bail us out from the awful results we've endured this year. be one hell of a season if we do, sure, but I don't see that happening which is 100% based on current form, results and a poor transfer window.   

Chutney

Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:57:31 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on October 30, 2017, 02:51:46 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on October 30, 2017, 02:34:18 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:24:36 PM
Quote from: MJG on October 30, 2017, 02:21:58 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:04:38 PM
Quote from: MJG on October 30, 2017, 11:39:06 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 11:06:23 AM
Yep, now all we need to do is pick u points in games like Newcastle Home/Away, thrash a top 6 side, who got promoted 9.1 on agg and emulate form that is near on unheard of in these leagues and we'll be fine right? Why we worrying for? Daft isn't it when thats all we need to do....

Not really unheard of.

2016-17 Fulham last 23 games 44 pts

2015-16 Burnley last 23 games 55 pts  Brighton 45pts

2014-15 Watford last 23 games 51 pts Norwich 49 pts Bournemouth 45 pts

Unheard of two seasons in a row. Can you at elast agree that its improbable to emulate such form?
Ive said that elsewhere in the projection thread. What im trying not to do is labour the point across countless threads.
But actually it shows that our form last season while great, was actually not as spectacular as can be achieved.

Sure, we'll see. I won't be sore if it does/doesn't happen either way but if I was a betting man, I wouldn't push too favourable odds on us tis all im saying.

Last season doesn't mean anything anymore. Our chances of going on a run neither increase nor decrease due to what has happened on the pitch historically.

Then you'll know thats why I've said its a poor barometer to how we've done this season. My pessimism is 100% based on this seasons transfer activity and subsequent below par performances.

This quote doesn't back that up - "Unheard of two seasons in a row"

The rest does. But yes, I also think statistically speaking, asking a team to run results as high end as we did last year two years in a row, is a stretch and is improbable. We can go over semantics all you like but you can't draw conclusions from one year if its a positive and disregard it if its a negative. Let me put it bluntly, I don't foresee a triumphant run of form that will bail us out from the awful results we've endured this year. be one hell of a season if we do, sure, but I don't see that happening which is 100% based on current form, results and a poor transfer window.   

Its also less likely given we failed to improve our starting 11 while teams that were weaker than us last season strengthened. Its simply not fair to expect our manager and players to do it again.
C O Y W


FFC1987

Quote from: Chutney on October 30, 2017, 03:01:55 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:57:31 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on October 30, 2017, 02:51:46 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on October 30, 2017, 02:34:18 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:24:36 PM
Quote from: MJG on October 30, 2017, 02:21:58 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 02:04:38 PM
Quote from: MJG on October 30, 2017, 11:39:06 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 30, 2017, 11:06:23 AM
Yep, now all we need to do is pick u points in games like Newcastle Home/Away, thrash a top 6 side, who got promoted 9.1 on agg and emulate form that is near on unheard of in these leagues and we'll be fine right? Why we worrying for? Daft isn't it when thats all we need to do....

Not really unheard of.

2016-17 Fulham last 23 games 44 pts

2015-16 Burnley last 23 games 55 pts  Brighton 45pts

2014-15 Watford last 23 games 51 pts Norwich 49 pts Bournemouth 45 pts

Unheard of two seasons in a row. Can you at elast agree that its improbable to emulate such form?
Ive said that elsewhere in the projection thread. What im trying not to do is labour the point across countless threads.
But actually it shows that our form last season while great, was actually not as spectacular as can be achieved.

Sure, we'll see. I won't be sore if it does/doesn't happen either way but if I was a betting man, I wouldn't push too favourable odds on us tis all im saying.

Last season doesn't mean anything anymore. Our chances of going on a run neither increase nor decrease due to what has happened on the pitch historically.

Then you'll know thats why I've said its a poor barometer to how we've done this season. My pessimism is 100% based on this seasons transfer activity and subsequent below par performances.

This quote doesn't back that up - "Unheard of two seasons in a row"

The rest does. But yes, I also think statistically speaking, asking a team to run results as high end as we did last year two years in a row, is a stretch and is improbable. We can go over semantics all you like but you can't draw conclusions from one year if its a positive and disregard it if its a negative. Let me put it bluntly, I don't foresee a triumphant run of form that will bail us out from the awful results we've endured this year. be one hell of a season if we do, sure, but I don't see that happening which is 100% based on current form, results and a poor transfer window.   

Its also less likely given we failed to improve our starting 11 while teams that were weaker than us last season strengthened. Its simply not fair to expect our manager and players to do it again.

Yep, hence my cripe with the transfer window. I said at start of season, I was concerned certain players way exceeded form levels that were totally unsustainable and its looking like that could well be true. I guess people want reassurance or a positive attitude but sadly, I can't offer it.

filham

Had we won against Burton and Bolton, both in the bottom three, we would now be in the top six.

A team that can only win once in seven home games is just not going to be promoted.

Forever Fulham

We have to finish Top 2.  Last season's ending was too painful.  We could get our act together, play terrific, then go into a slump at the very end.  Finishing Top 6 is should be our Plan B back stop, nothing more.  We go for automatic promotion.


Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: Forever Fulham on October 30, 2017, 06:57:22 PM
We have to finish Top 2.  Last season's ending was too painful.  We could get our act together, play terrific, then go into a slump at the very end.  Finishing Top 6 is should be our Plan B back stop, nothing more.  We go for automatic promotion.

I agree most definitely.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

HatterDon

Do you really think ANYBODY wants Fulham to finish 6th rather than 1st or 2nd?
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FFC1987

Quote from: HatterDon on October 30, 2017, 10:18:06 PM
Do you really think ANYBODY wants Fulham to finish 6th rather than 1st or 2nd?

Well naturally, if the goal is out of touch ie top 2, then the next target is top 6. I think thats the point.


VicHalomsLovechild

   I guess like most I'm seriously pi$$ed off for a couple of days after we lose or don't take all three points from a struggling team.
   I'm trying to think of a time where I didn't automatcally look at league placings after each game. When it was enough and a joy to just have watched Fulham. Or a neat bit of play drawing a bit of applause from around the ground. Or a player almost leaping on to the terrace to celebrate a goal.
   I really hope the points come soon and we're in the mix at Christmas ready to push on. Let it start tonight :)

Beamer

More importantly for us old 'seen it all before' types we are 9 points off the relegation zone.

Darkside

Quote from: Beamer on October 31, 2017, 11:08:53 AM
More importantly for us old 'seen it all before' types we are 9 points off the relegation zone.
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Make that 6 points away - with Wolves licking their lips already