Brighton Cardiff

[JoelH5]

I think we can 100% say now that Southampton is must win

[Woolly Mammoth]

It's all about good habits, and those good habits have to start tomorrow as soon as the Fulham players arrive at Anfield. This is no game for faint hearts, and neither should it be.
They have to set their stall out, and defend as one, when we haven't got the ball, they no doubt will have majority of possession, and we must endeavour to have our share to take the pressure off.
But our players have to run further and longer and faster than theirs.
But I shall say it again, it's all about good habits, because our season has been full of bad habits to date.
So Jok better install in their minds than a) we can keep a clean sheet, b) we can score on this ground c) whatever happens we must keep our discipline and our shape, and no matter what do not panic and do not drop their heads.
The players and the manager have to have a strong  mentality and show resilience at all times all over the pitch. Concentration is a good habit, as is to have that mentality of take no prisoners, yes it's all about good habits tomorrow and every match until the end of the season.

[Mince n Tatties]

Also, let's wait till the final scores officially put us "adrift at the bottom" before throwing all the complaints onto the thread, still plenty of time for more goals

Yes can all change yet.

[Mince n Tatties]

Newcastle 2 up now

[andyk]

Also, let's wait till the final scores officially put us "adrift at the bottom" before throwing all the complaints onto the thread, still plenty of time for more goals

Yes can all change yet.

Yep, Newcastle scored again.

[I Ronic]

Palace had the same number of points as us after 12 games last year and survived. I'm not happy along.with the rest of you but a good team performance tomorrow would be a start.

[Neutral Zone Ultra]

Palace had the same number of points as us after 12 games last year and survived. I'm not happy along.with the rest of you but a good team performance tomorrow would be a start.

Because they sacked their manager

[andyk]

Palace had the same number of points as us after 12 games last year and survived. I'm not happy along.with the rest of you but a good team performance tomorrow would be a start.

Though they did sack their manager after they  lost 6 in a row.

[Woolly Mammoth]

My take on this is, we should not be relying on other teams doing this and doing that.
It should be in our hands.
Forget what other teams are doing, it's what we do that counts.
We have to set a target for how many points minimum we must accrew, but also try and pick up something every game.
Once we can start playing to our strengths with good habits, let other teams worry about us.
If we get to 40 points, a huge if,,but if we can then there is no need to worry about what the rest are doing.
We have to do it ourselves, not rely on others short comings.
Cardiff have already won more games than us. In fact twice as many, how does that feel.
Bloody awful, so let's not rely on others losing, we have to win to pick up points.
Nothing else matters.

[andyk]

My take on this is, we should not be relying on other teams doing this and doing that.
It should be in our hands.
Forget what other teams are doing, it's what we do that counts.
We have to set a target for how many points minimum we must accrew, but also try and pick up something every game.
Once we can start playing to our strengths with good habits, let other teams worry about us.
If we get to 40 points, a huge if,,but if we can then there is no need to worry about what the rest are doing.
We have to do it ourselves, not rely on others short comings.
Cardiff have already won more games than us. In fact twice as many, how does that feel.
Bloody awful, so let's not rely on others losing, we have to win to pick up points.
Nothing else matters.

Good point, well made. 

However, I will still be obsessively checking each moment of each game, involving those around us.  I wish I didn't but I can't help it,

Bournemouth bang one in, come on you cherries.

[Mince n Tatties]

My take on this is, we should not be relying on other teams doing this and doing that.
It should be in our hands.
Forget what other teams are doing, it's what we do that counts.
We have to set a target for how many points minimum we must accrew, but also try and pick up something every game.
Once we can start playing to our strengths with good habits, let other teams worry about us.
If we get to 40 points, a huge if,,but if we can then there is no need to worry about what the rest are doing.
We have to do it ourselves, not rely on others short comings.
Cardiff have already won more games than us. In fact twice as many, how does that feel.
Bloody awful, so let's not rely on others losing, we have to win to pick up points.
Nothing else matters.

Yes and against the likes of Liverpool, Manure and Chelsea... All this talk of relying on beating lower clubs is tosh,as has been proven by losing to Cardiff and Huddersfield, we have to get something out of games against the better teams.

[I Ronic]

Palace had the same number of points as us after 12 games last year and survived. I'm not happy along.with the rest of you but a good team performance tomorrow would be a start.

Because they sacked their manager

Teams go down with new managers and players. My point was we are not down yet.

[Woolly Mammoth]

My take on this is, we should not be relying on other teams doing this and doing that.
It should be in our hands.
Forget what other teams are doing, it's what we do that counts.
We have to set a target for how many points minimum we must accrew, but also try and pick up something every game.
Once we can start playing to our strengths with good habits, let other teams worry about us.
If we get to 40 points, a huge if,,but if we can then there is no need to worry about what the rest are doing.
We have to do it ourselves, not rely on others short comings.
Cardiff have already won more games than us. In fact twice as many, how does that feel.
Bloody awful, so let's not rely on others losing, we have to win to pick up points.
Nothing else matters.

Good point, well made. 

However, I will still be obsessively checking each moment of each game, involving those around us.  I wish I didn't but I can't help it,

Bournemouth bang one in, come on you cherries.

Of course that's human nature, and I don't blame you, and of course if others are dropping points it makes life easier.

[davew]

Palace had the same number of points as us after 12 games last year and survived. I'm not happy along.with the rest of you but a good team performance tomorrow would be a start.

Though they did sack their manager after they  lost 6 in a row.

Joka is being allowed extra time then, tomorrow will make 7 but just include the Carabeo Cup match.

[GJB]

Palace had the same number of points as us after 12 games last year and survived. I'm not happy along.with the rest of you but a good team performance tomorrow would be a start.

Though they did sack their manager after they  lost 6 in a row.

Joka is being allowed extra time then, tomorrow will make 7 but just include the Carabeo Cup match.

Extra-time? Since when has Palace's decision-making regarding sacking their manager become the one we must follow?

[Neutral Zone Ultra]

Palace had the same number of points as us after 12 games last year and survived. I'm not happy along.with the rest of you but a good team performance tomorrow would be a start.

Though they did sack their manager after they  lost 6 in a row.

Joka is being allowed extra time then, tomorrow will make 7 but just include the Carabeo Cup match.

Extra-time? Since when has Palace's decision-making regarding sacking their manager become the one we must follow?

Typically if managers lose even 5 in a row their job is at risk, obviously it depends on the situation.

[davew]

I would rather have Palace's manager, wouldn't you GJB?

[GJB]

Palace had the same number of points as us after 12 games last year and survived. I'm not happy along.with the rest of you but a good team performance tomorrow would be a start.

Though they did sack their manager after they  lost 6 in a row.

Joka is being allowed extra time then, tomorrow will make 7 but just include the Carabeo Cup match.

Extra-time? Since when has Palace's decision-making regarding sacking their manager become the one we must follow?

Typically if managers lose even 5 in a row their job is at risk, obviously it depends on the situation.

I understand that it's a risk and I don't disagree with this. What I'm struggling to understand though is the comparison between us and Palace which is being talked about a lot on this forum ... different managers, different players, different season, different form leading up to this stage in the season and most importantly, just because Palace were successful after replacing their manager, this doesn't mean Fulham will necessarily be successful also.

The decision for Slavisa to go, if or when it happens, will hopefully be made using justifications other than when other clubs decided to do it in seasons gone by.

[GJB]

I would rather have Palace's manager, wouldn't you GJB?

I'm not decided on whether I want Slavisa to go yet, but if the option was Roy or all the names being mentioned currently in the press, I'd take Roy any day of the week.

[Jimpav]

Cardiff will be towards the bottom of the league all season and Brighton are a side who could easily get sucked in to a relegation battle. Not a great result for us in the short term of course but the more teams who get dragged towards us the better. As you can see the glass is still half full at the moment. COYW.

Agree with this, more chance of Brighton getting sucked in as the season goes on. The more teams in the fight the better it is for us.