Didn't play badly

[Bassey the warrior]

One of our better recent performances although we were vulnerable on the left, Bryan needs more support. Ultimately a poor refereeing mistake and two poor defensive errors cost us. We just have no luck.

I won't blame Ranieri when we go down, he's brought togetherness and all of his signings look good. It's lack of investment in defence that did for us.

[fulhamfever]

Points keep you up so save your 5 line overview of the game because a 3-1 loss is a loss. We do not know how to defend, remember men and women lie but numbers do not.

[JoelH5]

Yeah couldn't really care less if we played better at this stage. A win is all that matters now

[Mitch]

Oh come on. We were not good. We're at risk of thinking performances last night were decent, simply because everything else has been so bad. West Ham didn't have to do much once they got back level - it was cruise control to the win.

And sorry to pick you apart, but you think Ranieri has given us togetherness? The team look less of a team now than ever, and the fans pretty much universally hate him. We're less together than ever.

[Asotosyios]

Definitely not a good performance. We started well, but rarely troubled West Ham after scoring - a fair result.

[Robbie]

Our defensive play was shocking. The most noticeable thing is the PL .. is most teams have a "give us back OUR ball" method when they lose the ball. And they hunt in packs.

We stand off .. back peddle  .. don't mark closely enough .. we attempt to defend far to close to our box...

And most bizarrely last night we went one up then noticeable decided to try and defend our lead for 70 minutes.

Unfortunately this is rotten TOP to BOTTOM.

[fulhamfever]

Burnley just beat Spurs 2-1 no fancy players in their team, just a team that wanna work hard and play hard for the manager, the fans and most importantly their football club. Is it too much to ask from a team in London who earn much more than their Lancashire relegation competitors?

[Lyle from Hangeland]

Burnley just beat Spurs 2-1 no fancy players in their team, just a team that wanna work hard and play hard for the manager, the fans and most importantly their football club. Is it too much to ask from a team in London who earn much more than their Lancashire relegation competitors?

Really they're playing for themselves like any other professional footballer. Fulham players are trying, but as a unit they just aren't very good together regardless of heart or effort.

[ALG01]

One of our better recent performances although we were vulnerable on the left, Bryan needs more support. Ultimately a poor refereeing mistake and two poor defensive errors cost us. We just have no luck.

I won't blame Ranieri when we go down, he's brought togetherness and all of his signings look good. It's lack of investment in defence that did for us.

Just to correct factual errors. The first goal may have been an error by the ref but if Rico could deal with a routine cross it would not have come to that. The problem on the left is Bryan, he is a second rate defender way ourt of his depth, Sess had to come back all the time to deal with things and when he went off it just got worse. the second goal was coming for ages and again the keeper simply failed to deal with a routine ball into the box. The third goal was a comedy of errors but the new center hapf could have stopped it if he had been stll playing and not hopelessly out of position because he was ball watching. And whilst i cannot blame the goalkeeper for the third, he really could have done more to try and save it because his starting position was very questionable.

Togetherness better? How do you work that out, the team is disjointed and do not ook a cohesive unit. They look sorry for themselves and the supporters.

I will not blame CR when we go down, I will blame the two Khans for hiring such a poor manager with not the first idea what he is doing.

[Matt10]

One of our better recent performances although we were vulnerable on the left, Bryan needs more support. Ultimately a poor refereeing mistake and two poor defensive errors cost us. We just have no luck.

I won't blame Ranieri when we go down, he's brought togetherness and all of his signings look good. It's lack of investment in defence that did for us.

Just to correct factual errors. The first goal may have been an error by the ref but if Rico could deal with a routine cross it would not have come to that. The problem on the left is Bryan, he is a second rate defender way ourt of his depth, Sess had to come back all the time to deal with things and when he went off it just got worse. the second goal was coming for ages and again the keeper simply failed to deal with a routine ball into the box. The third goal was a comedy of errors but the new center hapf could have stopped it if he had been stll playing and not hopelessly out of position because he was ball watching. And whilst i cannot blame the goalkeeper for the third, he really could have done more to try and save it because his starting position was very questionable.

Togetherness better? How do you work that out, the team is disjointed and do not ook a cohesive unit. They look sorry for themselves and the supporters.

I will not blame CR when we go down, I will blame the two Khans for hiring such a poor manager with not the first idea what he is doing.

I've slowly grown to not prefer Bryan in that LB spot, but we were much better defending that side when Sess came off. Antonio and Fredericks rarely got up the flanks the way they had before. In the first half, it was Antonio and Zabaleta, playing overlap football - something we used to do.

Honestly, though, it was more likely that West Ham sat back and Fredericks was put for the pace to recover for the defensive line, which is why the flank was not used as much. Regardless, Sess was out of sorts both defensively and attacking (except for the first 5 minutes) down that side.

I think there is a togetherness in defeat, but in terms of the actual play - it's offensively the lack of movement. Compared to West Ham's pass and move, once we weren't able to counter-attack, and instead possess, the concept looked alien - and obviously not practiced. From Markovic playing a free role, just to drop passes down to Cairney or Chambers, to Babel literally running everywhere to pick up the ball shallow - it was individual football.

Ranieri needs to scratch the low defensive line and narrow shape in defence. We were absolutely dominated on both flanks because we didn't want to get beat down the middle. TC playing central allowed us to get out of some sticky situations, and some great opportunities, but we can't ask him to beat 2-4 players each time just to get a pass off to Mitro.

[Bassey the warrior]

Oh come on. We were not good. We're at risk of thinking performances last night were decent, simply because everything else has been so bad. West Ham didn't have to do much once they got back level - it was cruise control to the win.

And sorry to pick you apart, but you think Ranieri has given us togetherness? The team look less of a team now than ever, and the fans pretty much universally hate him. We're less together than ever.

We're more together than under Joka and have more heart. Players are trying, some are just not good enough.

[Bassey the warrior]

One of our better recent performances although we were vulnerable on the left, Bryan needs more support. Ultimately a poor refereeing mistake and two poor defensive errors cost us. We just have no luck.

I won't blame Ranieri when we go down, he's brought togetherness and all of his signings look good. It's lack of investment in defence that did for us.

Just to correct factual errors. The first goal may have been an error by the ref but if Rico could deal with a routine cross it would not have come to that. The problem on the left is Bryan, he is a second rate defender way ourt of his depth, Sess had to come back all the time to deal with things and when he went off it just got worse. the second goal was coming for ages and again the keeper simply failed to deal with a routine ball into the box. The third goal was a comedy of errors but the new center hapf could have stopped it if he had been stll playing and not hopelessly out of position because he was ball watching. And whilst i cannot blame the goalkeeper for the third, he really could have done more to try and save it because his starting position was very questionable.

Togetherness better? How do you work that out, the team is disjointed and do not ook a cohesive unit. They look sorry for themselves and the supporters.

I will not blame CR when we go down, I will blame the two Khans for hiring such a poor manager with not the first idea what he is doing.

There's no factual errors, I said defensive errors were at fault. Your view on Bryan and togetherness is an opinion not a fact.

[Nero]

AS soon as the west ham goal went in  you could see the players deflate and it was all over it was just when where west ham going to score, they are so lacking in confident, they need a manager to build them up and i don't think CR is the man, looks a great comedian but motivator he is not

[Twig]

Ranieri, given us togetherness? What planet are you on?  He has  alienated our Captain by alternatively benching him and playing him out of position, has lost many of the supporters, has messed up Ryan Sess and made conflicting public criticisms of him....................

[Bassey the warrior]

Ranieri, given us togetherness? What planet are you on?  He has  alienated our Captain by alternatively benching him and playing him out of position, has lost many of the supporters, has messed up Ryan Sess and made conflicting public criticisms of him....................

I'll grant you he messed around with Cairney but it's worth remembering Cairney hasn't been as good this season. Sess hasn't really justified a starting place.

The players are trying and fighting more than under Slav and I love Slav. If you disagree then fair enough but I trust my football observations.

I'm not saying Ranieri is doing well just trying to say something different to the usual moaning.

[Penfold]

Personally think Ranieri has lost the dressing room. He needs to go, and Tony needs to admit he's no DOF

[ALG01]

One of our better recent performances although we were vulnerable on the left, Bryan needs more support. Ultimately a poor refereeing mistake and two poor defensive errors cost us. We just have no luck.

I won't blame Ranieri when we go down, he's brought togetherness and all of his signings look good. It's lack of investment in defence that did for us.

Just to correct factual errors. The first goal may have been an error by the ref but if Rico could deal with a routine cross it would not have come to that. The problem on the left is Bryan, he is a second rate defender way ourt of his depth, Sess had to come back all the time to deal with things and when he went off it just got worse. the second goal was coming for ages and again the keeper simply failed to deal with a routine ball into the box. The third goal was a comedy of errors but the new center hapf could have stopped it if he had been stll playing and not hopelessly out of position because he was ball watching. And whilst i cannot blame the goalkeeper for the third, he really could have done more to try and save it because his starting position was very questionable.

Togetherness better? How do you work that out, the team is disjointed and do not ook a cohesive unit. They look sorry for themselves and the supporters.

I will not blame CR when we go down, I will blame the two Khans for hiring such a poor manager with not the first idea what he is doing.

There's no factual errors, I said defensive errors were at fault. Your view on Bryan and togetherness is an opinion not a fact.

I hate to be pedantic but it was three defensive errors, one at each goal. Whilst the ref was an idiot for the first Rico's punch was the error, and a dreadful one, that led to it. IOK I agree your view on togetherness and mine differ and yes it is opinion but unusually I think you will find many people feel we are not 'together' as a team and as far as Bryan is concerned, I am not sure what opinion you have but there is a whole thread about him being not good enough. So many goals come from his side because he fails to cover, close down, and/or anticipate well enough. 

[Statto]

Ranieri, given us togetherness? What planet are you on?  He has  alienated our Captain by alternatively benching him and playing him out of position, has lost many of the supporters, has messed up Ryan Sess and made conflicting public criticisms of him....................

Agree totally

Not to mention sending Kamara to Turkey

He lost the dressing room weeks ago, as observed above, that's totally clear.

Jokanovic apparently had difficulty bringing together the old and new groups of players but the squad was still better motivated than it is now