The real problem

[JoelH5]

The real problem isn't the manager. Yes he's obviously not good enough but we have been terrible under him and terrible under Slav in the PL.

The players just aren't good enough. Who is responsible for that... Tony Khan. He got lucky with Mitro who was down to Slav anyway. This has been a long time coming. Terrible recruitment year on year. If we truly want to kick on and sort this mess, there's one resignation we need in particular.

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[Neil D]

Indeed.  Changing the manager now or even at the end of the season is like changing the plaster on a festering sore.  It may make you feel better but it won't address the fundamental problem.  To put this hopeless simile out of its misery:  it was the summer recruitment wot done it. 

[toshes mate]

I mostly agree with you about the recruitment issues but I would suggest that Jokanovic would have done something much better with the squad had he been given a whole season.  I don't believe SJ was ever going to get a whole season in the PL and there were echoes of the Watford situation behind the contract extension.  I would suggest that Ranieri was the Khans' chosen PL ready manager and that they completely undervalued SJ's contribution to FFC over two and a half seasons largely because he would not bend to their demands.

[Jimpav]

The defence are not good enough, but the rest of the squad should have been more than capable of keeping us up this season.

Ranieri has made a bad situation worse with his ridiculous tactics, baffling line ups and worst of all, he has increasingly alienatated some of our best players.

Changing the manager won't keep us up now but it might get the best out of our players for the rest of the season.

[Sting of the North]

TK has a terrible record on transfers .
We never seem to buy anyone who has experience in English football.
He seems to be in the hands of agents ,especially with all the French
signings .The name Willie Mckay springs to mind.

You could not make this season up as regards what has happened .
Khan like a millionaire kid in a sweet shop.
Getting fleeced by the agents paying ridicolous prices
for sub standard players .
We could all go on and mention names but there are so many.
Absolute disgrace what has happened since Wembley.

As an example, in the summer we acquired Bryan, TFM, Chambers, Mawson, Schürrle and Mitro that all has experience of english football. In January we acquired Babel and Markovic that also has experience of English football. That is 8 out of 15 for this season.

Last January we acquired Mitro and Targett. Both have experience of English football. You don't even have to look very closely to see that we have acquired plenty of players with experience of English football. Some of them would also meet the criteria of being relatively experience in PL football recently, such as Chambers, TFM, Mawson and Mitro and to a lesser degree Schürrle.

The part of being in the hands of agent I don't know on what basis you think that. Because of the one letter pointing to a particular agent being involved in the Seri transfer?

I am not overly happy with our recruiting, but I feel many of your points lack nuance almost completely.

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I am not overly happy with our recruiting, but I feel many of your points lack nuance almost completely.

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[Mitch]

Sacking Ranieri isn't a fix, but it will make everyone around the club feel better. It's gone from failing to absolute toxicity under him, due to his own actions. It's the first step in moving forwards and could bring the fans back onside too - has to be done.

[Statto]

I'm no fan of tony Khan, and no he didn't get great value for his £100m, but Honestly still think with mawson fit, a proper pre-season and a decent manager playing to our strengths, we would not be in the bottom 6

[FFC1987]

Honestly still think with mawson fit, a proper pre-season and a decent manager playing to our strengths, we would not be in the bottom 6

I don't. That backline line even with a fit Mawson isn't good enough.

[Sting of the North]

I'm no fan of tony Khan, and no he didn't get great value for his £100m, but Honestly still think with mawson fit, a proper pre-season and a decent manager playing to our strengths, we would not be in the bottom 6

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[JoelH5]

I'm no fan of tony Khan, and no he didn't get great value for his £100m, but Honestly still think with mawson fit, a proper pre-season and a decent manager playing to our strengths, we would not be in the bottom 6

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I dont think a pre-season would have suddenly made Christie good enough for the prem mate.

[FulhamStu]

The recruitment of many of the players was good, Seri, Mitro, and a few others, we took a risk with Mawson that has gone badly wrong.   The failure was, Mawson apart although injured, we did not improve an already average Championship defence.   We then tried to play like we had in the championship, which frankly most teams other than Man City are not good enough to do in the Premier League.  Having fairly quickly worked out that was never going to work, we did a complete about turn and went for direct football under
Ranieri.

Strategically our football plans are all over the place.   Tony Khan is not bad for Fulham, he is just on the wrong job.  We have nearly all said it and continue to argue, we need a top Football person at the head of the football. It's so obvious.  A bit like Hugh Jennings who was a great success at Southampton, doing the job he does well now at Fulham.

The Khans biggest failing is their seemingly inability to recruit the best person for the job, especially when it comes to football matters.   We do have good players, but a stupidly put together squad with a complete lack of quality defenders.  A good football man at the top would surely have addressed this problem.

[LittleErn]

The recruitment of many of the players was good, Seri, Mitro, and a few others, we took a risk with Mawson that has gone badly wrong.   The failure was, Mawson apart although injured, we did not improve an already average Championship defence.   We then tried to play like we had in the championship, which frankly most teams other than Man City are not good enough to do in the Premier League.  Having fairly quickly worked out that was never going to work, we did a complete about turn and went for direct football under
Ranieri.

Strategically our football plans are all over the place.   Tony Khan is not bad for Fulham, he is just on the wrong job.  We have nearly all said it and continue to argue, we need a top Football person at the head of the football. It's so obvious.  A bit like Hugh Jennings who was a great success at Southampton, doing the job he does well now at Fulham.

The Khans biggest failing is their seemingly inability to recruit the best person for the job, especially when it comes to football matters.   We do have good players, but a stupidly put together squad with a complete lack of quality defenders.  A good football man at the top would surely have addressed this problem.

If any of our owners other businesses had performed (or should I say under-performed) as Fulham FC has, then the CEO would have been out on his ear! Time to admit that nepotism hasn't worked despite good intentions.

[Statto]

I'm no fan of tony Khan, and no he didn't get great value for his £100m, but Honestly still think with mawson fit, a proper pre-season and a decent manager playing to our strengths, we would not be in the bottom 6

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I dont think a pre-season would have suddenly made Christie good enough for the prem mate.

No and it probably wouldn't have made Rui Fonte good enough either. But it would have made Rico, Mawson, Chambers, MLM, Anguissa, Seri, Cairney, Sessegnon, Mitrovic, Schurrle and probably one of TFM or Odoi good enough. In any case, Teams have done a lot more than finish 17th despite having a crap right back.