One for the statos on new managers

[fulhamben]

Does anyone know, what the worst start to a fulham mangers career, either as a full time appointment or as a caretaker is. For the life of me I can't recall one losing their first 3 games, let alone a let's be honest (And hopefully , because I hate liverpool) nailed on 4th defeat.

[Sting of the North]

Does anyone know, what the worst start to a fulham mangers career, either as a full time appointment or as a caretaker is. For the life of me I can't recall one losing their first 3 games, let alone a let's be honest (And hopefully , because I hate liverpool) nailed on 4th defeat.

Didn't Roy lose his first three games? Or was that league games only?

[sunburywhite]

All Fulham Managers                     
                     
Manager   From   Until   W   D   L   Total   Win%
Slaviša Jokanović   2015   2019   54   27   42   123   43.9
Alan Curbishley     2015   2015   0   3   1   4   0
Kit Symons           2014   2015   22   17   25   64   34.38
Felix Magath           2014   2014   4   4   12   20   20
Rene Meulensteen   2013   2014   4   3   10   17   23.53
Martin Jol                   2011   2013   38   28   47   113   33.63
Mark Hughes           2010   2011   14   16   13   43   32.56
Roy Hodgson           2007   2010   50   32   46   128   39.06
Ray Lewington      2007   2007   0   2   1   3   0
Lawrie Sanchez           2007   2007   4   8   12   24   16.67
Chris Coleman           2003   2007   61   44   71   176   34.66
Jean Tigana           2000   2003   69   42   43   154   44.81
Karlheinz Riedle           2000   2000   3   2   2   7   42.86
Paul Bracewell           1999   2000   22   16   12   50   44
Kevin Keegan           1998   1999   38   12   11   61   62.3
Ray Wilkins           1997   1998   21   8   15   44   47.73
Micky Adams           1996   1997   30   16   17   63   47.62
Ian Branfoot           1994   1996   26   35   27   88   29.55
Don Mackay           1991   1994   53   46   62   161   32.92
Alan Dicks                   1990   1991   17   23   35   75   22.67
Ray Lewington           1986   1990   73   54   82   209   34.93
Ray Harford           1984   1986   37   16   46   99   37.37
Malcolm McDonald   1980   1984   74   56   54   184   40.22
Bobby Campbell           1976   1980   51   51   81   183   27.87
Alec Stock                   1972   1976   75   72   73   220   34.09
Bill Dodgin                   1969   1972   57   33   40   130   43.85
Bobby Robson           1968   1968   10   12   23   45   22.22
Vic Buckingham           1965   1968   42   31   66   139   30.22
Bedford Jezzard           1958   1964   112   69   121   302   37.09
Duggie Livingstone   1956   1958   52   22   37   111   46.85
Bill Dodgin                   1949   1953   52   52   84   188   27.66
Frank Osborne           1948   1949   22   8   10   40   55
Jack Peart                   1935   1948   104   71   100   275   37.82
Jimmy Hogan           1934   1935   9   8   10   27   33.33
James McIntyre           1931   1934   60   28   37   125   48
Ned Liddell           1929   1931   39   19   29   87   44.83
Joe Bradshaw           1926   1929   48   26   57   131   36.64
Andy Ducat           1924   1926   31   23   38   92   33.7
Phil Kelso                   1909 1924   180   104   178   462   38.96
Harry Bradshaw           1904   1909   43   19   27   89   48.31

[sunburywhite]

http://www.managerstats.co.uk/clubs/fulham/

[Cornishnick]

There is only 4 games difference between our won and lost totals for all time.
Won    1701
Lost     1697
Drawn  1158

Overall win rate of 37%

[Cornishnick]

Not sure when the cut off for these stats was and how many games SJ was away from the sack. Ranieri will have boosted the 'loss' column, we may now be 'in deficit'

[davew]

SP will be on his way to a record at the end of the season, played 10 and lost 10, won't blame him at all if it happens though! Scott just look ahead and bring in some kids otherwise you will not get my vote for manager next season!

[fulhamben]

Cheers all, still can't find the worst start to a career in there though

[fulhamben]

Does anyone know, what the worst start to a fulham mangers career, either as a full time appointment or as a caretaker is. For the life of me I can't recall one losing their first 3 games, let alone a let's be honest (And hopefully , because I hate liverpool) nailed on 4th defeat.

Didn't Roy lose his first three games? Or was that league games only?

just checked he did lose first 3 games in league but was broken up with draws in the cup. Got a point in fourth league game

[SWSixer]

There is only 4 games difference between our won and lost totals for all time.
Won    1701
Lost     1697
Drawn  1158

Overall win rate of 37%

Don't think we will be balancing that ledger this season.

[The Rational Fan]

Worst Managers Fulham Four (<22.5% win rate) are:

• Sir Bobby Robson (WC Semi-Final, won Eredivisie and European Manager of 1996–97) admired by Jose Mourino, Pep and Ferguson
• Claudio Raneri (won Premier League, Copa del Rey, European Coach of the Season and FIFA Football Coach of the Year)
• Felix Magath (won Bunderliga with two different clubs and won German Manager of the Year three times)
• Lawrie Sanchez (failed elsewhere - what happened seems unworthy of being a failed Fulham Manager)

[Twig]

Worst Managers Fulham Four (<22.5% win rate) are:

• Sir Bobby Robson (WC Semi-Final, won Eredivisie and European Manager of 1996–97) admired by Jose Mourino, Pep and Ferguson
• Claudio Raneri (won Premier League, Copa del Rey, European Coach of the Season and FIFA Football Coach of the Year)
• Felix Magath (won Bunderliga with two different clubs and won German Manager of the Year three times)
• Lawrie Sanchez (failed elsewhere - what happened seems unworthy of being a failed Fulham Manager)

Lol, Sanchez clearly the odd one out.

[filham]

Worst Managers Fulham Four (<22.5% win rate) are:

• Sir Bobby Robson (WC Semi-Final, won Eredivisie and European Manager of 1996–97) admired by Jose Mourino, Pep and Ferguson
• Claudio Raneri (won Premier League, Copa del Rey, European Coach of the Season and FIFA Football Coach of the Year)
• Felix Magath (won Bunderliga with two different clubs and won German Manager of the Year three times)
• Lawrie Sanchez (failed elsewhere - what happened seems unworthy of being a failed Fulham Manager)

Lol, Sanchez clearly the odd one out.

Sanchez came to us on the back of some good performances from Northern Ireland so at the time he was looked upon as an inform manager.

Amazing how these world class managers failed badly at Fulham. Just another example of Fulhamish I guess.

[Sting of the North]

Worst Managers Fulham Four (<22.5% win rate) are:

• Sir Bobby Robson (WC Semi-Final, won Eredivisie and European Manager of 1996–97) admired by Jose Mourino, Pep and Ferguson
• Claudio Raneri (won Premier League, Copa del Rey, European Coach of the Season and FIFA Football Coach of the Year)
• Felix Magath (won Bunderliga with two different clubs and won German Manager of the Year three times)
• Lawrie Sanchez (failed elsewhere - what happened seems unworthy of being a failed Fulham Manager)

Lol, Sanchez clearly the odd one out.

Sanchez came to us on the back of some good performances from Northern Ireland so at the time he was looked upon as an inform manager.

Amazing how these world class managers failed badly at Fulham. Just another example of Fulhamish I guess.

Well, both Ranieri and Magath came to a club on a rapid downhill path. So part of the explanation is probably that they inherited a team in disarray and lacking all sorts of confidence. It is not an easy task to turn such a situation around I would guess. However, both of them seemed to make the team even worse, which is an accomplishment in itself given how bad the situation already was.

[aaronmcguigan]

Worst Managers Fulham Four (<22.5% win rate) are:

• Sir Bobby Robson (WC Semi-Final, won Eredivisie and European Manager of 1996–97) admired by Jose Mourino, Pep and Ferguson
• Claudio Raneri (won Premier League, Copa del Rey, European Coach of the Season and FIFA Football Coach of the Year)
• Felix Magath (won Bunderliga with two different clubs and won German Manager of the Year three times)
• Lawrie Sanchez (failed elsewhere - what happened seems unworthy of being a failed Fulham Manager)

Magath had been unemployed the previous 18 months after being sacked at Wolfsburg, they struggled the season before , and had been on a long streak without winning before they sacked him mid season.

Ranieri had a mid table finish at Nantes as well as a disaster reign at Greece in between his Leicester spell

Despite basically David Healy playing out of his skin, NI didn't qualify for any tournaments under Sanchez's reign, and his previous job was at Wycombe.

The managerial record can't always be traced back to the manager. Lack of recruitment, level of change at the time, level of investment, and the logic of the appointment all need to be looked into before calling a manager a failure.

[jarv]

SP was handed a poison chalice by his predecessor.  He has started on a hiding to nothing which is not his fault. I hope he continues and gets things back on track next season.