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Offline Mitrovic the warrior

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Aston Villa spending
« on: July 11, 2019, 12:31:36 PM »
They've now spent £83 million net, almost completely on Championship players. Will be interesting to see how this pans out. Part of me does want them to get relegated just so we don't look so foolish going down having spent £100 million.

Offline The Rational Fan

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Re: Aston Villa spending
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2019, 03:52:46 PM »
After £83m spent reasonably well spent, Ladbrokes still has Aston Villa as 3rd favourites for going down. The season may very bad for the Premier League brand as it may end up with ManCity running away with the title early, the big six getting into Europe early and relegation of all three promoted teams could be obvious by Christmas.
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Re: Aston Villa spending
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2019, 03:58:14 PM »
Interesting that they've made 7 of their signings before the date we had even made our first last season!
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Re: Aston Villa spending
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2019, 04:15:01 PM »
Interesting that they've made 7 of their signings before the date we had even made our first last season!

But that because half of them where on loan their last season

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Re: Aston Villa spending
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2019, 05:38:37 PM »
Major difference is that most of our signings were ‘last minute’ hence we started with a team of strangers and never recovered from that Add that they may start with a fit squad - we had a bunch of injured CBs - and they would appear to be in a better place!


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Re: Aston Villa spending
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2019, 08:20:36 PM »
Villa have a very good manager and they won't be in any trouble.

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Re: Aston Villa spending
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2019, 08:30:34 PM »
Have they used The T Khan manual of how to buy players?   :022:


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Re: Aston Villa spending
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2019, 08:39:22 PM »
“Are Aston Villa repeating mistakes Fulham made last summer? Not at all”

https://www.theguardian.com/football/who-scored-blog/2019/jul/11/aston-villa-mistakes-fulham-summer-transfer-window-signings

WOW 20m for someone that can launch it up the pitch


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Re: Aston Villa spending
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2019, 10:16:28 PM »
From the Guardian article but could easily have been written by any of the so-called "Khan haters" on here (eg me)

"[Fulham] failed to do their business early and Villa are learning from their mistakes. Fulham signed seven players last August, including five on deadline day. They were acting with a desperation that wasn’t entirely necessary, trying to force players to adapt to what was a very clear philosophy in a very short space of time."

Offline The Rational Fan

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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2019, 07:38:42 AM »
From the Guardian article but could easily have been written by any of the so-called "Khan haters" on here (eg me)

"[Fulham] failed to do their business early and Villa are learning from their mistakes. Fulham signed seven players last August, including five on deadline day. They were acting with a desperation that wasn’t entirely necessary, trying to force players to adapt to what was a very clear philosophy in a very short space of time."

Given TK and scouting team thought the best deals fulham were offerred before the 29th July 2019 were MLM, Seri, Fabri and Schullre (in my opinion these first four deals were the worst four deals of the transfer window in terms of value). Do you expect "the players that the Fulham Scouting team would have bought early in the window" were better (or worse) than what "we bought closer to deadline day (Mitro, Mawson, Bryan and Anguissa)"?
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Re: Aston Villa spending
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2019, 08:23:44 AM »
The "big" clubs spend this type of money on one player without batting an eyelid. The other clubs might as well just sign free or out of contract players as they will never be able to compete on the uneven playing field.


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Re: Aston Villa spending
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2019, 08:39:56 AM »
From the Guardian article but could easily have been written by any of the so-called "Khan haters" on here (eg me)

"[Fulham] failed to do their business early and Villa are learning from their mistakes. Fulham signed seven players last August, including five on deadline day. They were acting with a desperation that wasn’t entirely necessary, trying to force players to adapt to what was a very clear philosophy in a very short space of time."

Given TK and scouting team thought the best deals fulham were offerred before the 29th July 2019 were MLM, Seri, Fabri and Schullre (in my opinion these first four deals were the worst four deals of the transfer window in terms of value). Do you expect "the players that the Fulham Scouting team would have bought early in the window" were better (or worse) than what "we bought closer to deadline day (Mitro, Mawson, Bryan and Anguissa)"?

I like how you've cherry-picked the dates and names that suit you and still presented an incredibly weak argument.

Mitrovic was signed on 30 July so arguably he was actually an "early" signing but in any case, he was effectively brought in by Jokanovic in January.

Looking at ALL the players identified and signed by TK in Summer 2019, then prior to your cut-off date you have MLM, Seri, Fabri and Schurrle versus Chambers, Bryan, Mawson, Anguissa, Vietto, Rico and Fosu-Mensah after.

I appreciate that this is to some extent a matter of subjective personal opinion. However, that second group includes a £25m signing who couldn't play in our desired formation, a defender with a long-term injury, and a right-back who failed to displace Cyrus Christie.

Sorry but anyone who claims there was a discernable improvement in the quality of transfers in August versus June/July is surely talking out their ar&e.
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Re: Aston Villa spending
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2019, 09:36:15 AM »
And it continues, to be honest I’ve never heard of him so who knows if it’s a good deal.

BREAKING NEWS

Aston Villa are closing on a £15m deal to sign Manchester City midfielder Douglas Luiz, Sky Sports News understands.


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Re: Aston Villa spending
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2019, 11:23:57 AM »
Honestly don’t see the fuss in promoted teams spending 100m plus.
Teams build squads for the championship and a premier league team needs to be far higher in quality.
Villa clearly think they are signing the right quality. Maybe they areocerpaying but they’re doing that to improve the squad morale, the embedding of new signings and for the tactics to come together earlier.
We failed in this last year but we could have spent a whole lot more, it’s the timing of signings that let us down but again that was a risk v reward scenario that we came out on the wrong side of. We clearly had targets and tried to get them late to curtail the spending which is sensible but it came at the expense of team gelling, tactics being under prepared and generally being slow to start the season


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Re: Aston Villa spending
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2019, 11:38:08 AM »
Honestly don’t see the fuss in promoted teams spending 100m plus.
Teams build squads for the championship and a premier league team needs to be far higher in quality.
Villa clearly think they are signing the right quality. Maybe they areocerpaying but they’re doing that to improve the squad morale, the embedding of new signings and for the tactics to come together earlier.
We failed in this last year but we could have spent a whole lot more, it’s the timing of signings that let us down but again that was a risk v reward scenario that we came out on the wrong side of. We clearly had targets and tried to get them late to curtail the spending which is sensible but it came at the expense of team gelling, tactics being under prepared and generally being slow to start the season

they are buying players as they only had a squad 17 players including loan players that have returned they dont want like Hogan etc , and they are looking at signing there 4 centre back, dont think they will play them all at once