Anthony Knockaert Signs

[The Rational Fan]

St Eve, tell you why - he's publicly stated he doesn't want to stay and wants away. So be it, lets just get some cash and buy someone who wants to play for us

Do you have a link for this public statement, since I can't seem to find it?

Ryan Sessegnon has to sign a new contract for us, else we sell him. I don't care if he wants to play for us or not, a professional will give his best and Sess seems very professional, but both him and us need a long-term contract. i think Spurs would be very wise signing Sess, he has a great attitude an old fashion hard working attitude without any old fashion drinking and diet problems. Seems like a player that could play for Spurs for at least 12 years, can play multiple positions for now and in a few years could be amazing in one position.

[St Eve]

St Eve, tell you why - he's publicly stated he doesn't want to stay and wants away. So be it, lets just get some cash and buy someone who wants to play for us

Not sure that is true. May be paper talk or agent gossip. The only thing we reall know is that he hasn't signed a new contract. I would be thrilled if he stayed

[St Eve]

St Eve, tell you why - he's publicly stated he doesn't want to stay and wants away. So be it, lets just get some cash and buy someone who wants to play for us

Do you have a link for this public statement, since I can't seem to find it?

Ryan Sessegnon has to sign a new contract for us, else we sell him. I don't care if he wants to play for us or not, a professional will give his best and Sess seems very professional, but both him and us need a long-term contract. i think Spurs would be very wise signing Sess, he has a great attitude an old fashion hard working attitude without any old fashion drinking and diet problems. Seems like a player that could play for Spurs for at least 12 years, can play multiple positions for now and in a few years could be amazing in one position.

A lot of truth but Spurs have a history of ruining players careers

[AnOldBrownie]

St Eve, tell you why - he's publicly stated he doesn't want to stay and wants away. So be it, lets just get some cash and buy someone who wants to play for us

Do you have a link for this public statement, since I can't seem to find it?

Ryan Sessegnon has to sign a new contract for us, else we sell him. I don't care if he wants to play for us or not, a professional will give his best and Sess seems very professional, but both him and us need a long-term contract. i think Spurs would be very wise signing Sess, he has a great attitude an old fashion hard working attitude without any old fashion drinking and diet problems. Seems like a player that could play for Spurs for at least 12 years, can play multiple positions for now and in a few years could be amazing in one position.

I didn't want to hijack a non-Sess thread with Sess talk...

But...again...WHY is it imperative to Ryan Sessegnon or Tottenham Spurs to sign Ryan THIS year?   It's the last year of his contract.   They already have a bunch of home grown talent on their squad.  The owners don't know if Poch wins the Champions League or the EPL cup he won't jump ship to another team...and we know from experience that not every manager agrees with Ryan Sess (Claudio).

So he can play multiple positions.  That tells me he's not better at those positions than specialist, who already occupy or have occupied those positions.

Love Ryan, but I can't for the life of me see why Levy would pay 25 million for Ryan Sessegnon after the last two years.   They have so many other specialist that they can target for that price.  AND they have Champions League as a stick to offer top talent.

[toshes mate]

Knockaert is clearly a player who thrives with a good quality full back behind him and so it'll be another signing for whom those partnerships on the pitch are everything.  He clearly has talent in abundance and has and can influence games on his own if and when his head is in the right place.  Another signing that comes with the usual associated provisos but is a much better risk than many TK signings before him.  I just wonder what has changed in recruitment, if anything, to enable signings like this to get over the line sometime before deadline day.  Has someone found the 'On' switch at last?

If SP can find the right formation and good balance between the flanks then Knockaert could become part of a very good looking side.  Cautious optimism from me.     

[The Rational Fan]

St Eve, tell you why - he's publicly stated he doesn't want to stay and wants away. So be it, lets just get some cash and buy someone who wants to play for us

Do you have a link for this public statement, since I can't seem to find it?

Ryan Sessegnon has to sign a new contract for us, else we sell him. I don't care if he wants to play for us or not, a professional will give his best and Sess seems very professional, but both him and us need a long-term contract. i think Spurs would be very wise signing Sess, he has a great attitude an old fashion hard working attitude without any old fashion drinking and diet problems. Seems like a player that could play for Spurs for at least 12 years, can play multiple positions for now and in a few years could be amazing in one position.

I didn't want to hijack a non-Sess thread with Sess talk...

But...again...WHY is it imperative to Ryan Sessegnon or Tottenham Spurs to sign Ryan THIS year?   It's the last year of his contract.   They already have a bunch of home grown talent on their squad.  The owners don't know if Poch wins the Champions League or the EPL cup he won't jump ship to another team...and we know from experience that not every manager agrees with Ryan Sess (Claudio).

So he can play multiple positions.  That tells me he's not better at those positions than specialist, who already occupy or have occupied those positions.

Love Ryan, but I can't for the life of me see why Levy would pay 25 million for Ryan Sessegnon after the last two years.   They have so many other specialist that they can target for that price.  AND they have Champions League as a stick to offer top talent.

Anthony Knockaert is surely Ryan Sessegnon's replacement so the two threads are quite related.

WHAT are young players really worth?

When Raheem Sterling was nineteen years old he was valued at £11.70 million and now he is worth £126.00m. When Ashley Young and Danny Rose were nineteen years old they were valued at £1.30 million and were eventually valued at £24.30m during the peak of his career. In addition, Taggett is currently worth about £14m, Bryan is currently worth about £6m and Markovoic is worth almost nothing. A young player is worth the "sum of probabilities" he becomes a "top top player", a "top player" or a player that "potentially a top player" (e.g. Markovoic).

WHY is Ryan Sessegnon worth at least £25m if he signs a five year contract?

Ryan Sessegnon is worth £25m, because there is a 10% chance he'll be as good as Raheem Sterling, 15% chance he'll be more like Ashley Young, 15% chance he'll be similar to Danny Rose, 20% chance he'll be similar to Matt Taggett, 20% chance he'll be similar to Joe Bryan and 20% chance he'll be as  useless as Markovoic has been so far. Of course, if you disagree with those probabilities being too high his value falls dramatically maybe £12m, and if you think their is a 30% chance he'll be the next Raheem Sterling then £45m is a good price to pay. My estimates come to £25m, but any number is just guess work.

WHY is it imperative to Ryan Sessegnon Spurs to sign Ryan THIS year?

Number one reason Ryan Sessegnon needs to sign is any calculation says their is a 10-20% chance that his value will fall to a mid table Championship Players especially if injuries hit, and that means having to work again after your football career is over without any real name to live off. What is more most young players need a balance of game time and training time, Sessegnon would do well with a year in the gym, bench and learning skills.

WHY is it imperative for Tottenham Spurs to sign a Young Star?

Spurs are at turning point, as Arsenal, ManUtd and Chelsea are having their problems, financial they have been behind these clubs for a few years, buit now they have a new stadium, if they want to leap frog any of these clubs its now or never. Most big players would have signed with these other clubs, but if Spurs can build a young squad with a big future that might change. Every agent and most players know Spurs are chasing the Sessegnon Twins and not to get them will symbolism Spurs being cheap. If Ryan Sessegnon signs for another club and he plays well, then Spurs are still a team that won't pay for talent and will be placed below those other clubs for players to join.

WHY is it imperative to Tottenham Spurs to sign Ryan this year?

Simply, a good season next year for Sessegnon could easily have Liverpool, ManUtd, ManCity or Chelsea interested. He seems careful to join those team at the moment partly cause they have bigger squads and getting a spot of the bench maybe hard, but that might not be a concern in a year. In addition, living in London is attractive to him and in a year maybe not so much.

Plus, Steven Sessegnon is signed with Fulham for five years and Man City could strike a deal with Fulham to win Ryan Sessegnon over.  If Ryan Sessegnon is offerred 150k per week with both clubs, but Steven Sessegnon is offerred £50k at Man City if he goes to Man City, where will he go.  Note, they are twins and frankly Sessegnon seems more interested in his football and his family than money. In Summary, Spurs is attractive to Sessegnon now but the day he is a free agent things maybe very different, especially if Pochettino has left Spurs.

[hovewhite]

Anthony welcome to Fulham fc .

[We Are Premier League]

Brilliant signing!

and we finally have someone that can challenge Cairney for having the worse right foot in the squad...

:)

[toshes mate]

Anthony Knockaert is surely Ryan Sessegnon's replacement so the two threads are quite related.

A young player is worth the "sum of probabilities" he becomes a "top top player", a "top player" or a player that "potentially a top player"

Your first sentence would make more sense if the players were reversed since Knockaert has already matured into a player of some relevance in the top tier of English football, something that the much younger man has yet to demonstrate even if we allow him the benefit of a 99% chance he will be a top player one day.  The probability of what RS can achieve in the future is a meaningless concept except in the context of what he actually does achieve and what he actually does become in eight years time, at Knockaert's age, and nobody in football possesses a crystal ball or even an enlightened mathematical device or formula for achieving such a gifted glimpse into the future. 

Of course there are the trained eyes that have looked after Ryan in the past (teacher's pet in SJ times) in a addition to the eyes who didn't treat him so well and perhaps poisoned any relationship between Club and young man for the future.  Those are the impacts and impressions that are often left on young people as they grow up with so many older adults around them upon which to build trust and expectations, only for them to be jolted away via a problem which is not readily obvious to be of their making.  When your mentor is whipped away from you then it takes a lot longer than a few months to establish a rapport upon which trust is a solid part with someone new in the mentor role.  That is a part of the rule of unintended consequences.

[alfulham]

Great signing so pleased.
Could be our new Malbronque?
COYW

[Dixie]

I'm pleased about this signing, I think that he offers something we have lacked in recent seasons - a direct runner who will take on the opposition and put them on the back foot.
But, and i'm a bit surprised to find that i'm the first person to state this... I really, really disliked him as a Brighton player based on how he was when he played against us. I will be supporting him 100% while he is wearing the shirt and i sincerely hope that my previous opinion of him is flipped on its' head!

Just for clarity, i found him to be constantly whining, playing for fouls, complaining to the ref and generally seeming very arrogant to the point of arguing with his own team mates as i remember in the game at the cottage (which they won 2-1).

He looked like a useful player though, so i'm very hopeful that he will provide a lot of assists for Mitro this season

[Shredhead]

There's over 170 pages on the equivalent Seagulls messageboard. The consensus is we've got a good signing for the Championship but he has off-field issues (possibly relating to his dad's death) and maybe likes the sauce.

[AnOldBrownie]

Knockaert is clearly a player who thrives with a good quality full back behind him and so it'll be another signing for whom those partnerships on the pitch are everything.  He clearly has talent in abundance and has and can influence games on his own if and when his head is in the right place.  Another signing that comes with the usual associated provisos but is a much better risk than many TK signings before him.  I just wonder what has changed in recruitment, if anything, to enable signings like this to get over the line sometime before deadline day.  Has someone found the 'On' switch at last?

If SP can find the right formation and good balance between the flanks then Knockaert could become part of a very good looking side.  Cautious optimism from me.   

If you have no experience in a particular job, yet you do that job for 2 years...hopefully time will result in you getting better at that job.   Well, unless you're daft.

It's not rocket science.    Everything TK does is a learning opportunity that will hopefully make him a better DOF in the long run.

[toshes mate]

Knockaert is clearly a player who thrives with a good quality full back behind him and so it'll be another signing for whom those partnerships on the pitch are everything.  He clearly has talent in abundance and has and can influence games on his own if and when his head is in the right place.  Another signing that comes with the usual associated provisos but is a much better risk than many TK signings before him.  I just wonder what has changed in recruitment, if anything, to enable signings like this to get over the line sometime before deadline day.  Has someone found the 'On' switch at last?

If SP can find the right formation and good balance between the flanks then Knockaert could become part of a very good looking side.  Cautious optimism from me.   

If you have no experience in a particular job, yet you do that job for 2 years...hopefully time will result in you getting better at that job.   Well, unless you're daft.

It's not rocket science.    Everything TK does is a learning opportunity that will hopefully make him a better DOF in the long run.

That is certainly true of the person in the street, and I have noted from memory that, when in the Championship, players have been hauled over the line by TK early in the window.  What is different is that the two players concerned are more readily observed as players whose names we would have thought of in a normal thread of ideal transfers.  Perhaps there has been a more focused look at the potential market rather than a computer generated list where names have been scratched through and eliminated to isolate targets but that may be wishful thinking.