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NFR Sheffield United vs Arsenal

Started by Fulham 442, October 21, 2019, 08:44:18 PM

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Fulham 442

Anyone else watching? Love Ollie Norwood.  We missed a trick not signing him.

bog

I always rated him. Glad to see he is getting a proper chance in the Premier.  :dft001:


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Statto

But for a mere £20m more than Norwood would have cost, we got Anguissa


filham

Quote from: Statto on October 21, 2019, 09:32:12 PM
But for a mere £20m more than Norwood would have cost, we got Anguissa
But we don't know which one had the best stats, all we know is which one proved most useful in premier league matches.

Spirit of 2000

Arsenal 2nd half = just like watching Fulham.  Loads of possession with no end product

The Rational Fan

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Quote from: Statto on October 21, 2019, 09:32:12 PM
But for a mere £20m more than Norwood would have cost, we got Anguissa

Anguissa is having a great season so far in Liga A (17th best player in Liga A according to whoscored and doing equally well to Cairney in the Championship). I am sure Man United would swap Fred for Anguissa now, even though Fred is twice or trice the price.

Fulham are going to look foolish when his buyout clause causes us to sell Anguissa for £25m (he is worth much more now). Anguissa only played 16 times before we were relegated and started playing decently, and now he is playing much better than he did against Liverpool, Everton and Bournmouth.

Last season, we started a trend of writing players and managers off with a few games, first Fabri and Chambers, then Anguissa and Mawson and then Jokavoic, all a bit premature to be honest.


BigbadBillyMcKinley

Quote from: The Rational Fan on October 22, 2019, 12:10:09 AM
Quote from: Statto on October 21, 2019, 09:32:12 PM
But for a mere £20m more than Norwood would have cost, we got Anguissa

Anguissa is having a great season so far in Liga A (17th best player in Liga A according to whoscored and doing equally well to Cairney in the Championship). I am sure Man United would swap Fred for Anguissa now, even though Fred is twice or trice the price.

Fulham are going to look foolish when his buyout clause causes us to sell Anguissa for £25m (he is worth much more now). Anguissa only played 16 times before we were relegated and started playing decently, and now he is playing much better than he did against Liverpool, Everton and Bournmouth.

Last season, we started a trend of writing players and managers off with a few games, first Fabri and Chambers, then Anguissa and Mawson and then Jokavoic, all a bit premature to be honest.

Yep. Exactly this. Dont seem to give players a chance. It's happened so many times before.
Everything is difficult before it's easy!

Sting of the North

Quote from: The Rational Fan on October 22, 2019, 12:10:09 AM
Quote from: Statto on October 21, 2019, 09:32:12 PM
But for a mere £20m more than Norwood would have cost, we got Anguissa

Anguissa is having a great season so far in Liga A (17th best player in Liga A according to whoscored and doing equally well to Cairney in the Championship). I am sure Man United would swap Fred for Anguissa now, even though Fred is twice or trice the price.

Fulham are going to look foolish when his buyout clause causes us to sell Anguissa for £25m (he is worth much more now). Anguissa only played 16 times before we were relegated and started playing decently, and now he is playing much better than he did against Liverpool, Everton and Bournmouth.

Last season, we started a trend of writing players and managers off with a few games, first Fabri and Chambers, then Anguissa and Mawson and then Jokavoic, all a bit premature to be honest.

Although it is very difficult to compare performances in different leagues and teams, I do agree completely that many people write of players and managers far too early. We've seen it a lot lately, for example.

Mince n Tatties

Quote from: BigbadBillyMcKinley on October 22, 2019, 08:54:01 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on October 22, 2019, 12:10:09 AM
Quote from: Statto on October 21, 2019, 09:32:12 PM
But for a mere £20m more than Norwood would have cost, we got Anguissa

Anguissa is having a great season so far in Liga A (17th best player in Liga A according to whoscored and doing equally well to Cairney in the Championship). I am sure Man United would swap Fred for Anguissa now, even though Fred is twice or trice the price.

Fulham are going to look foolish when his buyout clause causes us to sell Anguissa for £25m (he is worth much more now). Anguissa only played 16 times before we were relegated and started playing decently, and now he is playing much better than he did against Liverpool, Everton and Bournmouth.

Last season, we started a trend of writing players and managers off with a few games, first Fabri and Chambers, then Anguissa and Mawson and then Jokavoic, all a bit premature to be honest.

Yep. Exactly this. Dont seem to give players a chance. It's happened so many times before.

Don't think its anything to do with giving players a chance,more like the club thought he wasn't suitable for the English game.
You might laugh at this,but I bet a dollar the great Messi would find it hard week after week in the premier.


Whitesideup

Norwood may have found his niche at Sheffield Utd, but although he had a decent strike on him, he did not over-impress in his spell with us. I don't recall too many people on here lamenting his departure.

By the way, Anguissa may have disappointed, and certainly started very slowly... but towards the end put in one or two good performances. I  thought against Liverpool at home he had a very good game.

toshes mate

Sheffield Utd are doing pretty well so far as success is concerned and so is Norwood.  But what can we deduce from that other than knowing he is capable midfielder who probably should have been retained/purhased along with all the other loaned players in our promotion squad?  We know the price to be paid for inept decision making but then any supporter from early teens upward knows that too well already.  What we can perhaps be forgiven for struggling with is how easy it is for some to continue getting things badly wrong, for some to maintain modest stability, for some to glimpse the promised and for some to see sustained success.

The answers to our struggles are not going to be found in a bell curve whatever the standard deviation from the mean is.  If you want to be successful then the mediocrity of statistical analysis is not the place to find the answers and it never has been.  Bold decisions taken by bold people have just as much probability of mediocrity of outcomes unless those bold people first learn all there is to know their chosen subject, all the details about it to the best of their ability, and all the observations necessary to back their chosen judgements based on outcomes.  That, in past, present and future, always reduces the risk of failure, although it will never guarantee immediate success.  You have to maintain the determination to believe in and stick with what you have and gently mould it into success and not chuck it away at the first sign of stress, to start again with another plan altogether which simply proves you don't know your subject.