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Parker out

Started by absenteeism, October 19, 2019, 05:58:48 PM

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absenteeism

Best squad in the league by a mile and desperately struggling.

Get Hughton in and be done with it for christ sake.

The man is an embarrassment

Sting of the North

I think this post is more embarrasing, but it is of course subjective.

Spirit of 2000

If at Xmas we're not top 6 and / or are significantly off 2nd points wise he certainly will need to go. Luton is now another must win for Parker as manager.


ScalleysDad

Hughton! Really? I suggest a tad more research into Hughton and some people's ott expectations and then look at what was going on when Parker was appointed. We were broken and even Shahid Khan said things were better with his appointment. We have no entitlement to romp this league.

Woolly Mammoth

I do not see any evidence that we are the best team in the League, some players need to show more urgency and work rate first. Expectations are far too high, and because supporters expect far too much, you end up setting yourselves up for a number of disappointments and let downs.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

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Spirit of 2000

We have if not the best, certainly one of the top 3 squads in the division and highest wage bill. Parker is 100% underachieving currently. He messed up today and has to put it right Wednesday.


Fulham 442

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 19, 2019, 06:37:40 PM
I do not see any evidence that we are the best team in the League, some players need to show more urgency and work rate first. Expectations are far too high, and because supporters expect far too much, you end up setting yourselves up for a number of disappointments and let downs.

very true

Fulham 442

Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on October 19, 2019, 06:39:38 PM
We have if not the best, certainly one of the top 3 squads in the division and highest wage bill. Parker is 100% underachieving currently. He messed up today and has to put it right Wednesday.
what's a high wage bill got to do with it?

Spirit of 2000

Top players for this level like Mitrovic, Cairney,  Cavaleiro,  Knockaert,  Arter, Bobby Reed etc come at premium wages. Parker isnt utilising a group of players who are generally superior to the average player in the championship


ScalleysDad

Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on October 19, 2019, 06:39:38 PM
We have if not the best, certainly one of the top 3 squads in the division and highest wage bill. Parker is 100% underachieving currently. He messed up today and has to put it right Wednesday.



One of several very good squads but no where the best and might be pushing it for top three. A top three squad would not have its fan base crying out for more depth and specific roles, like defence, to be filled. Our bench today, with the possible exception of Rodak, would not necessarily march into a top ten side. Wage bill stats mean nothing. Many high earners are decidedly average and some of ours proved that today.
Parker is about where many of us expected him to be.

Spirit of 2000

Quote from: ScalleysDad on October 19, 2019, 06:51:17 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on October 19, 2019, 06:39:38 PM
We have if not the best, certainly one of the top 3 squads in the division and highest wage bill. Parker is 100% underachieving currently. He messed up today and has to put it right Wednesday.



One of several very good squads but no where the best and might be pushing it for top three. A top three squad would not have its fan base crying out for more depth and specific roles, like defence, to be filled. Our bench today, with the possible exception of Rodak, would not necessarily march into a top ten side. Wage bill stats mean nothing. Many high earners are decidedly average and some of ours proved that today.
Parker is about where many of us expected him to be.

Agree to disagree then. If Parker doesn't have us top 6 he is massively underachieving. Cairney,  Mitrovic,  Cavaleiro and Knockaert would walk into any other side in this league and we have another handful of players who would walk into most.

The Old Count

Quote from: ScalleysDad on October 19, 2019, 06:51:17 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on October 19, 2019, 06:39:38 PM
We have if not the best, certainly one of the top 3 squads in the division and highest wage bill. Parker is 100% underachieving currently. He messed up today and has to put it right Wednesday.



One of several very good squads but no where the best and might be pushing it for top three. A top three squad would not have its fan base crying out for more depth and specific roles, like defence, to be filled. Our bench today, with the possible exception of Rodak, would not necessarily march into a top ten side. Wage bill stats mean nothing. Many high earners are decidedly average and some of ours proved that today.
Parker is about where many of us expected him to be.

I thought we'd finish the season about eighth. So far that looks about right.

People say Cardiff, Sheff Weds, Barnsley and Stoke are poor teams but we can't beat them.  It's all right Parker saying the result was 'a bump in the road', but the fact is we aren't a good enough team to do better.


ScalleysDad

Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on October 19, 2019, 07:01:49 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on October 19, 2019, 06:51:17 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on October 19, 2019, 06:39:38 PM
We have if not the best, certainly one of the top 3 squads in the division and highest wage bill. Parker is 100% underachieving currently. He messed up today and has to put it right Wednesday.



One of several very good squads but no where the best and might be pushing it for top three. A top three squad would not have its fan base crying out for more depth and specific roles, like defence, to be filled. Our bench today, with the possible exception of Rodak, would not necessarily march into a top ten side. Wage bill stats mean nothing. Many high earners are decidedly average and some of ours proved that today.
Parker is about where many of us expected him to be.

Agree to disagree then. If Parker doesn't have us top 6 he is massively underachieving. Cairney,  Mitrovic,  Cavaleiro and Knockaert would walk into any other side in this league and we have another handful of players who would walk into most.


Agree and disagree back at you. I think Mitro and Cairney might walk into one of the top three if they wanted a move now and for all his faults Betts might as well. However, at the moment anyway, Cav and Knockaert are too inconsistent, and a wages luxury, so that restricts them to possibly the upcoming top six January transfer gamble at best. The Reed/Reid twins and Joe B will probably get into one of the top six but the rest of the team are more top half outside of the top four at best and our bench mid table and lower. For the most part then they are where they should be.

Jim©

I've said all week, they're way way better (and have been playing) than their position suggests. I'd have been happy with a point before ko, so not as down as many on here.
Also of interest was how happy most were with teamsheet prior to kick off.

ALG01

parker made massive errors today. no need to repalce him as long as he learns and we are better as a result.
three at the back was a disaster


filham

We have to realise that you don't easily build a promotion team over a single transfer window, it takes time working together,
However something is wrong if we can dominate a bottom of the table team for 50 minutes and fail to score a goal.

davew

Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on October 19, 2019, 06:20:57 PM
If at Xmas we're not top 6 and / or are significantly off 2nd points wise he certainly will need to go. Luton is now another must win for Parker as manager.
He will probably pick 8 defenders for that game, his strategy today was bizarre and failed miserably!
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Robbie

Get that QPR bloke in.


Jem

Quote from: The Old Count on October 19, 2019, 07:04:28 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on October 19, 2019, 06:51:17 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on October 19, 2019, 06:39:38 PM
We have if not the best, certainly one of the top 3 squads in the division and highest wage bill. Parker is 100% underachieving currently. He messed up today and has to put it right Wednesday.



One of several very good squads but no where the best and might be pushing it for top three. A top three squad would not have its fan base crying out for more depth and specific roles, like defence, to be filled. Our bench today, with the possible exception of Rodak, would not necessarily march into a top ten side. Wage bill stats mean nothing. Many high earners are decidedly average and some of ours proved that today.
Parker is about where many of us expected him to be.

I thought we'd finish the season about eighth. So far that looks about right.

People say Cardiff, Sheff Weds, Barnsley and Stoke are poor teams but we can't beat them.  It's all right Parker saying the result was 'a bump in the road', but the fact is we aren't a good enough team to do better.
Sadly I agree. I foresee a few more bumps in the road.
"When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun'."
― Groucho Marx

hovewhite

On paper top 2 team ,I don't want him out and believe we have to give him a full season and believe he will get it.
However he has to get results and keep team in top 8 at very least.