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Anyone still willing to back Parker. Come on let’s have a laugh

Started by fulhamben, February 21, 2020, 09:42:57 PM

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Nero

My problem.with parker is we have a forward line worth circa 60-70m and we dont try and get the ball to them always backwards.and sideways. Doesn't bother to attack until we are down

snarks

Quote from: fulhamben on February 21, 2020, 10:19:13 PM
Quote from: colcliff on February 21, 2020, 10:12:02 PM
9 managers in 10  years
2 relegations
1 promotion
And when we were first promoted under SJ and results were not going well many on here wanted him replaced  which did not end in success
Sometimes I feel that every one thinks changing a manager brings immediate success and that is not always the case

no one, and I mean no one as far as I have seen has asked for instant success. What we don't want is what Parker offers and that's consistent crap

Ben your anti Parker posts are dull boring and repetitive we get it you don't like him. Give yourself a day off. I'll back him and continue todo so, then he'll leave or be replaced and I'll back the next one until he Leaves etc. We win more than we lose and so yes I'm happy enough.

Asotosyios

Quote from: snarks on February 22, 2020, 07:34:38 AM
Ben your anti Parker posts are dull boring and repetitive we get it you don't like him. Give yourself a day off. I'll back him and continue todo so, then he'll leave or be replaced and I'll back the next one until he Leaves etc. We win more than we lose and so yes I'm happy enough.

I am not trying to defend Ben, but I get where he's coming from.

Obviously we are all Fulham fans and want Fulham to do well. However, this has a different meaning for each one of us. For some the result and especially the win is the king, while others are more interested in the quality of football. That's why some people are pro Parker (having us 3rd and still with a chance for an automatic promotion) and others anti Parker (the football is boring).

Personally, I am not a fan of Parker. As others have said, I didn't like his appointment in the first place and have found it very difficult to warm up to him. That doesn't mean I won't support the team or that I want him sacked. I wouldn't lose any sleep if I read that he had been fired, but realistically I expect him to be here until the end of the season. What I don't like and cannot support is the quality of our football this year, especially when you compare it with Jokanovic's era which was not that long ago. As Toshe's Mate put it on a different thread, "it's hollow and empty" and unfortunately that feeling has been there all season and won't go away regardless if we get promoted or not.


Rambler

Quote from: Maidstone Lee on February 21, 2020, 10:46:29 PM
A lot of people are looking at Parker through rose tinted spectacles because it's his first season as a manager. It will be a disaster for us financially if we don't go up and we will almost certainly loose our only attackive threat in  Mitrovic. We rely on him far too heavily and we have no alternative. We are vastly underperforming in terms of effort, performance and results. Tony Khan needs to be brave and get a replacement lined up ASAP as we will not go back up with Parker at the helm. Had high hopes for him but that ship has sailed.


Agree with this. Financially I think we could be in quite a lot of trouble if we don't go up

Baszab

I don't think there will be a financial problem after we lose to Brentford in the play-off
Will still have parachute receipts and can flog Mitro and half the team
SP will go and we will start again with a new team
It's just a disappointing outcome but not the end of the world
It's only football !

Statto

Quote from: Rambler on February 22, 2020, 07:58:51 AM
Agree with this. Financially I think we could be in quite a lot of trouble if we don't go up

It's pure speculation but personally I'm not too worried about 20/21.
If Mitrovic goes it will more likely be because he doesnt want to spend another season in the Championship, rather than because we can't afford him.
The 21/22 season may be worse when our parachute payments end completely but we'll still probably be in a bracket of something like 4th-8th richest.


SuffolkWhite

Players will come and go for different reasons, much like Mitro staying with us as he has his reasons. I know we're not clicking as a team and the style is not what most fans want but we still have some way to go before we have failed this season! We could be in the Prem next season, I know most of us don't believe that but we are still in this fight.

Guy goes into the doctor's.
"Doc, I've got a cricket ball stuck up my backside
"How's that?"
"Don't you start"

Tempest

So Leeds, WBA, Brentford haven't lost game they should have won? Madrid? Juve? Barcelona? You think WBA play fantasy football??

The only thing I think Fulham and all clubs should do is make the manager more accessible to fans, monthly social media q and a, meetings at the club, I would certainly like some answers on some matters.

And to be honest,  why the hell do we even want promotion? Anyone think this team competes in the prem? Oh, I know,  we can spend £100m as that would guarantee staying up......

We win game in the championship,  we don't in the prem,  I'm backing Scott to get us in the play off final and then lose.


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Putney Pride

Quote from: Jamie88 on February 21, 2020, 10:01:51 PM
Quote from: colcliff on February 21, 2020, 09:50:12 PM
Getting sick of every time  we don't win
Sack the manager

Why?
We should be getting automatic promotion with this team, and our manager is the reason behind our failings so far, no doubt about that. His tactics are woeful and have cost us points. The only reason we are not worse of position-wise is down to Mitro and Rodak.

'Should be' is an interesting thing to say in football. You only have to look around global football to see teams who 'should be' doing better than they are. In the UK alone, Arsenal, Man Utd, Man City. Unfortunately football isn't played on paper and the most expensive teams are rarely the ones that walk the league.

The reality is we are third and there are only a handful of teams that have lost more games than us and the table speaks for itself. Leeds have won something like 2 in 10 and West Brom went 7 games without a win, everyone goes through bad patches. We clearly are in one and there is still plenty of time to put the performances right to get promotion as we are in touching distance and how the season has gone would suggest everyone will drop points.

I honestly don't understand what some posters on this forum expect. It seems as if things aren't absolutely perfect then it is panic stations. I would hate to see the reaction on here if we were having a bad season!


fulhamben

Quote from: Putney Pride on February 22, 2020, 08:55:24 AM
Quote from: Jamie88 on February 21, 2020, 10:01:51 PM
Quote from: colcliff on February 21, 2020, 09:50:12 PM
Getting sick of every time  we don't win
Sack the manager

Why?
We should be getting automatic promotion with this team, and our manager is the reason behind our failings so far, no doubt about that. His tactics are woeful and have cost us points. The only reason we are not worse of position-wise is down to Mitro and Rodak.

'Should be' is an interesting thing to say in football. You only have to look around global football to see teams who 'should be' doing better than they are. In the UK alone, Arsenal, Man Utd, Man City. Unfortunately football isn't played on paper and the most expensive teams are rarely the ones that walk the league.

The reality is we are third and there are only a handful of teams that have lost more games than us and the table speaks for itself. Leeds have won something like 2 in 10 and West Brom went 7 games without a win, everyone goes through bad patches. We clearly are in one and there is still plenty of time to put the performances right to get promotion as we are in touching distance and how the season has gone would suggest everyone will drop points.

I honestly don't understand what some posters on this forum expect. It seems as if things aren't absolutely perfect then it is panic stations. I would hate to see the reaction on here if we were having a bad season!
come on, do you really think we are looking for perfection, the vast majority just don't want to be crap
CHRIS MARTIN IS SO BAD,  WE NOW PRAISE HIM FOR MAKING A RUN.

ffcne

My opinion is that i have been spoilt by the  football
of Jokavonic for those 2 glorious seasons on making the play offs
and ultimately winning at Wembley.
It was up there with Tigana season.

It was free flowing and great to watch.

Dont think Parker knows his best formation, very disjointed.
Think Midfield is the real problem.Cairney going backwards in his career
And honestly dont think the players are putting in the effort of other teams.
I would have like to have seen players like OReilly and De la Torre given a chance.
Also Kebano more game time.
We really are in a false position.
Players seem too comfortable and maybe Parker is like mates to the players,
and not digging them out for lack of effort.


Jim©

Quote from: fulhamben on February 21, 2020, 10:35:50 PM
if Parker has the support of the players, why have we been so dreadful for the last few months?

What like 2 defeats in 13 dreadful?


Putney Pride

Quote from: fulhamben on February 22, 2020, 08:58:26 AM
Quote from: Putney Pride on February 22, 2020, 08:55:24 AM
Quote from: Jamie88 on February 21, 2020, 10:01:51 PM
Quote from: colcliff on February 21, 2020, 09:50:12 PM
Getting sick of every time  we don't win
Sack the manager

Why?
We should be getting automatic promotion with this team, and our manager is the reason behind our failings so far, no doubt about that. His tactics are woeful and have cost us points. The only reason we are not worse of position-wise is down to Mitro and Rodak.

'Should be' is an interesting thing to say in football. You only have to look around global football to see teams who 'should be' doing better than they are. In the UK alone, Arsenal, Man Utd, Man City. Unfortunately football isn't played on paper and the most expensive teams are rarely the ones that walk the league.

The reality is we are third and there are only a handful of teams that have lost more games than us and the table speaks for itself. Leeds have won something like 2 in 10 and West Brom went 7 games without a win, everyone goes through bad patches. We clearly are in one and there is still plenty of time to put the performances right to get promotion as we are in touching distance and how the season has gone would suggest everyone will drop points.

I honestly don't understand what some posters on this forum expect. It seems as if things aren't absolutely perfect then it is panic stations. I would hate to see the reaction on here if we were having a bad season!
come on, do you really think we are looking for perfection, the vast majority just don't want to be crap

How is third in the league crap? I know we aren't blowing everyone away but I fail to see why our league position represents such negativity

Putney Pride

Quote from: Jim© on February 22, 2020, 09:46:47 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on February 21, 2020, 10:35:50 PM
if Parker has the support of the players, why have we been so dreadful for the last few months?

What like 2 defeats in 13 dreadful?

I know! Hence my previous post about people expecting perfection. Leeds have won 2 in 10 or 11. Should they be sacking manager? Or should we exercise some patience for once and back the manager

SP

Love the Internet, I just noticed on TFI, one of the posters has been referred to as 'the poor man's Fulhamben'.


Fulham1959

Quote from: Tempest on February 22, 2020, 08:52:33 AM
So Leeds, WBA, Brentford haven't lost game they should have won? Madrid? Juve? Barcelona? You think WBA play fantasy football??

The only thing I think Fulham and all clubs should do is make the manager more accessible to fans, monthly social media q and a, meetings at the club, I would certainly like some answers on some matters.

And to be honest,  why the hell do we even want promotion? Anyone think this team competes in the prem? Oh, I know,  we can spend £100m as that would guarantee staying up......

We win game in the championship,  we don't in the prem,  I'm backing Scott to get us in the play off final and then lose.


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My thoughts exactly.  We are not good enough for the Prem at the moment.  Ideally, for me, we make good progress this season, get promoted 2020/21 and enter the Prem the following season with a well-rounded team and a lovely new stand !

Of course, failure to get promoted this season will see all the toys getting thrown out of the pram by many on here, baying for Scott Parker's blood.  Not me.

Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: fulhamben on February 21, 2020, 09:42:57 PM
Anyone?

Wow I must write this down and read it at night, it's much better than taking a sleeping tablet.
The NHS could take it up to as a recognised cure. 💤
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

Asotosyios

Quote from: Putney Pride on February 22, 2020, 10:05:52 AM
Quote from: Jim© on February 22, 2020, 09:46:47 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on February 21, 2020, 10:35:50 PM
if Parker has the support of the players, why have we been so dreadful for the last few months?

What like 2 defeats in 13 dreadful?

I know! Hence my previous post about people expecting perfection. Leeds have won 2 in 10 or 11. Should they be sacking manager? Or should we exercise some patience for once and back the manager

It's not always about wins. If we had to choose between Parker's or Bielsa's (or Jokanovic's for what it's worth) football to watch, I doubt a lot of us would choose Parker's.


Milo

I think an issue is that our players are clearly coached to make the safer/backwards pass to retain possession when we need to just go up maybe one more gear and push for another 25% say  of more forward balls. That together with the more attacking line up we saw in the last 25 minutes yesterday, and we will start to tear teams up again. Back to our Jokanovic days of attack being the best form of defence.

Yes, Bryan/Ream are a bit shaky but we can afford to trust Odoi and Hector at least and be more attacking.

bobby01

I will not get into the petty digs that seem to bog every debate nowadays, (nice to see though that kjs did not disappoint with his post game insult). I sincerely believe we are in a false position, those that say we do not have a talented squad I would like them to consider this.
I think the football via Parker's tactics that we bring to games is very very poor, the reason we are in the position we are in s the individual brilliance of player that have secured wins. Consider how many worldies you have seen this year, and a cf, who gets so little service but still manages to be top scorer.
Cairney I feel has been in a downward spiral for a long time, I have been paying particular attention to our back line for the last few weeks, and tbh I feel really sorry for them , they receive the ball, they rarely have options to pass to unless they play the latest fad of a diagonal, if they play it to Cairney he just passes it back, then under pressure they hoof it or make a mistake.
Our best spell last night was when knock went left and bobby went right to centre, this inverted winger system does not work it is to easy to defend, they know we are going to come inside so just run our wingers into traffic.
I really feel we need to change Parker who for i do not know tbh, but we will never play well with this keep possession at the expense of everything else style, our midfield is and has been our major problem all season and invariably two players when fit will always start,the other position seems to have a random rotation on it.
If we go up under Parker, I think I will have to find a dark room to go in for a season and never look at any form of media because it will be horrendous in regard to what the prem teams will do if we continue playing this way.
Watching the ups and downs since 1958, wouldn't have it any other way, what a roller coaster of a club.