Sky pundits can see our shortcomings

[Jims Dentist]

Steeeeed has posted below highlighting our poor scoring record from breakaways which was one of the things talked about last night.
Scott Minto, Keith Andrews and the astute Don Goodman made a number of spot on observations about us:
Lack of intent/urgency.
Far too many back and sideways pases.
Playing out from the back when it is too dangerous to do so ( such as from goal kicks when being heavily pressed by numbers).

They also mentioned that Bryan is our only defender to score so far, this being very different with our rivals.
They showed a clip from Millwall away when Onemah passes out to AK side right, it was on for AK  to take on the left back only for Onemah to run into the wing space preventing this so another sideways pass was made.

The things that they mentioned were largely what many of us moan about regularly.

[Jims Dentist]

Also on the show they did the usual interviews with fans before the game.
When asked if Fulham could get automatic promotion the youngish guy said,
Yes, if we play the Fulham way. We have the best manager in The  Championship.

Respectfully, the word delusional comes to mind.

[Nick Bateman]

The Sky pundits seemed to hit the nail on the proverbial head - do not know why Parker is allowing this malaise to persist.

[The Cravenette]

Parker got very defensive (excuse the pun) when he was interviewed at the end and questioned about always playing out.

[Spirit of 2000]

The Sky pundits seemed to hit the nail on the proverbial head - do not know why Parker is allowing this malaise to persist.

Bang on. No matter how much I dislike Keith Andrews,  his comments are 100% accurate

[Milo]

Parker got very defensive (excuse the pun) when he was interviewed at the end and questioned about always playing out.

Interesting - missed this as was walking back to Derby station. What did he reply?

[Mince n Tatties]

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[Dodger53]

Parker got very defensive (excuse the pun) when he was interviewed at the end and questioned about always playing out.

Interesting - missed this as was walking back to Derby station. What did he reply?

In a nutshell he said he will not change our / his style of play if possession is 50/50 we can't win games. Practice is all about playing out from the back and if players occasionally don't make the right decision as to when not to play out he will not criticise them.

[Luka]

He is stubborn to the point of being culpable.
Parker is our biggest barrier to free flowing, entertaining and exciting football.

[Matt10]

It is interesting though that we absorbed 2-3 chances from Derby because we couldn't collect the ball after going long on our own goal kicks. Mitro, or a combination of Mitro and the defender, would win the ball, but neither Cav, Kamara or Reid could get to the second ball. This was probably more frustrating to watch in the last 10 minutes than anything.

[Worcesterwhite]

Normally wouldn't take much notice of the sky pundits but I actually rate Don Goodman as he speaks a lot of sense and knows the division inside out. He completely summed up our short comings perfectly as we have all witnessed for ourselves.
The sky interview after the game really did question Parker on his tactics and you could see he got quite defensive

[Sting of the North]

It is interesting though that we absorbed 2-3 chances from Derby because we couldn't collect the ball after going long on our own goal kicks. Mitro, or a combination of Mitro and the defender, would win the ball, but neither Cav, Kamara or Reid could get to the second ball. This was probably more frustrating to watch in the last 10 minutes than anything.

I agree Matt, we really invited Derby to score a winner by losing our key battles. Not sure I prefer a trading chances-tactic like the last 10 minutes or so. Prefer that we keep playing 'our' way, but turning it up a notch like we seemed to do after Derby scored. This will of course increase the risk a little, but when we keep it on the ground and actually have people running and switching positions we look dangerous while still being mostly in control. To do this well consistently would however probably require a team that is more settled than we seem to be at the moment. Difficult to put the finger on why this is still a problem after three quarters of the season.

[H4usuallysitting]

Matter of interest....does anyone know how many goals we've conceded while passing it around our back 4/5

[Sting of the North]

Matter of interest....does anyone know how many goals we've conceded while passing it around our back 4/5

I don't know the answer to that one, but would guess that it is just a couple of goals by now (directly attributable to the short passing). The problem is that we don't know what would have happened if we for example played long instead, which always makes it difficult to assess whether or not the tactic is overall successful.

[SP]

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Had a laugh at the comment from Jamie Rednapp yesterday that the 3 relegated clubs will come from Brighton in 15th & below. What a wonderfully insightful observation.

[alfie]

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Come on Mince, they have and are entitled to opinions just like us.

[Andy S]

Sadly I don't think that we will be going up this season as it would take a surge of cataclysmic proportions to do so. It is what it is but the manager needs to be replaced by the end of the season and a new direction found that we can all unite around

[Matt10]

It is interesting though that we absorbed 2-3 chances from Derby because we couldn't collect the ball after going long on our own goal kicks. Mitro, or a combination of Mitro and the defender, would win the ball, but neither Cav, Kamara or Reid could get to the second ball. This was probably more frustrating to watch in the last 10 minutes than anything.

I agree Matt, we really invited Derby to score a winner by losing our key battles. Not sure I prefer a trading chances-tactic like the last 10 minutes or so. Prefer that we keep playing 'our' way, but turning it up a notch like we seemed to do after Derby scored. This will of course increase the risk a little, but when we keep it on the ground and actually have people running and switching positions we look dangerous while still being mostly in control. To do this well consistently would however probably require a team that is more settled than we seem to be at the moment. Difficult to put the finger on why this is still a problem after three quarters of the season.

From what I could see is that the theme of needing to change tactics earlier was significant again. We stayed in the 4-3-3 for too long, with TC and Johansen too high up the pitch, and Arter trapped between two banks. Once we switched to the 4-1-4-1, it allowed Cairney to have a bit more free reign because Cav, Reid and Kamara are each there to support Mitro. His movement released Arter to get out of the traps and had a bit more time on the ball as a result.

The issue is we shouldn't need to concede a goal to a change tactics when they are not working. This match's tactics focused on the side-to-side movement through the backline to pull Derby forwards and midfielders out of position, so we can find Arter. It worked only a couple of times, but even then the next bank is filled with midfielders who are marking Cairney, Knockaert and StefJo, while Reid has free-reign all over the pitch. 

[ByTheRiver]

Stevie Wonder can see our shortcomings tbf.

[General]

We've become the team version of Parker as a midfielder... a central midfielder, with a more defensive personality and every now and then ability to score... He's a nice and very competent player, but lacking creativity and doesn't express himself in more than a monotone way.