525 minutes since the last non-Mitrovoic goal. Why?

[The Rational Fan]

In the last 525 minutes, Mitrovoic has scored 5 goals, we have conceded 7 goals and 3 penalties, but no one else from Fulham has scored. Why is this? We cannot blame just finishing as the xG for non-Mitrovoic players is low too. What is the problem? And, what is the solution?

[fulhamfan]

He is the top scorer in the Champ and the focal point of our attack. As long as he keeps doing his job there is no problem

[The Rational Fan]

He is the top scorer in the Champ and the focal point of our attack. As long as he keeps doing his job there is no problem

If Mitrovic scores one goal every 105 minutes, we need 11 clean sheets to get to 89 points.

[Woolly Mammoth]

He could do with somebody playing off him to get into scoring positions, we have tightened up at the back, and for some reason not firing on all cylinders up top.
In a successful team others should be contributing. Also we should be more threatening at set pieces. All these extra points should give us extra points and an edge, but it's all a bit powder puff finishing at the moment.
Do not misunderstand I am not complaining just my observations in a constructive way.
Delighted we won last night, if it has to be 1 0 then so be it, as long as we win.
We must all remember, it is impossible at that level to dominate for 90 mins, the other team will have goods spells. The trick is to score whilst we are on top, and that's what the successful winning teams do most of the time.
If the recruitment team had any sense they would have brought in another striker, one way or another, they had since the summer to dig one out. But also we should be making more use of our subs far earlier.
Kamara, Kebano, Steff, Kevin MAC, they are all being wasted.
Especially when we are having a hard time breaking down the opponents door.
Fortune favours the brave, and the manager has to be proactive as opposed to reactive, and the West Brom Manager is good at being pro active, and where are they.
Hi am not complaining just my observations and it is constructive. I am pleased Scott Parker achieved a win last night, otherwise the vultures would be circling like flies round a lump of cows dung.
Get off his back, try and support him and see where he takes us, because he is going nowhere whilst this season is still up and running.

[colinwhite]

He could do with somebody playing off him to get into scoring positions, we have tightened up at the back, and for some reason not firing on all cylinders up top.
In a successful team others should be contributing. Also we should be more threatening at set pieces. All these extra points should give us extra points and an edge, but it's all a bit powder puff finishing at the moment.
Do not misunderstand I am not complaining just my observations in a constructive way.
Delighted we won last night, if it has to be 1 0 then so be it, as long as we win.
We must all remember, it is impossible at that level to dominate for 90 mins, the other team will have goods spells. The trick is to score whilst we are on top, and that's what the successful winning teams do most of the time.
If the recruitment team had any sense they would have brought in another striker, one way or another, they had since the summer to dig one out. But also we should be making more use of our subs far earlier.
Kamara, Kebano, Steff, Kevin MAC, they are all being wasted.
Especially when we are having a hard time breaking down the opponents door.
Fortune favours the brave, and the manager has to be proactive as opposed to reactive, and the West Brom Manager is good at being pro active, and where are they.
Hi am not complaining just my observations and it is constructive. I am pleased Scott Parker achieved a win last night, otherwise the vultures would be circling like flies round a lump of cows dung.
Get off his back, try and support him and see where he takes us, because he is going nowhere whilst this season is still up and running.

totallY agree

[ByTheRiver]

I am pleased Scott Parker achieved a win last night, otherwise the vultures would be circling like flies round a lump of cows dung.

I found myself agreeing with all of your post for once! But not this bit, come on. If we had have not won the game, on top of poor results against Millwall, Charlton, Barnsley, etc, and gone from being able to make 2nd our own to being completely out of the auto race (which, lets be honest, we would have been had Mitro not used those considerable neck muscles at the death, seeing as Leeds won), then we wouldn't be vultures circling. It would have been clear as day that Parker should have been gone by this morning and the time we are writing this to each other.

I know that is harsh, but that is the situation he has backed himself into with the poorer results throughout the season. The owners made it clear that automatic promotion was the target. The means were given and as Shahid said himself "I give people the tools they need and hold them accountable". So, if you are calling the people expecting targets to be met, vultures, then you are also using that term against the owner who has backed us to the hilt in recent years.

We don't need to be separate factions within the same fanbase. We all want the same thing.

[Asotosyios]

If the recruitment team had any sense they would have brought in another striker, one way or another, they had since the summer to dig one out.

I am pleased Scott Parker achieved a win last night, otherwise the vultures would be circling like flies round a lump of cows dung.
Get off his back, try and support him and see where he takes us, because he is going nowhere whilst this season is still up and running.

"Get off Parker's back and support him, but feel free to have a go at Tony Khan" - classic.

[Woolly Mammoth]

I am pleased Scott Parker achieved a win last night, otherwise the vultures would be circling like flies round a lump of cows dung.

I found myself agreeing with all of your post for once! But not this bit, come on. If we had have not won the game, on top of poor results against Millwall, Charlton, Barnsley, etc, and gone from being able to make 2nd our own to being completely out of the auto race (which, lets be honest, we would have been had Mitro not used those considerable neck muscles at the death, seeing as Leeds won), then we wouldn't be vultures circling. It would have been clear as day that Parker should have been gone by this morning and the time we are writing this to each other.

I know that is harsh, but that is the situation he has backed himself into with the poorer results throughout the season. The owners made it clear that automatic promotion was the target. The means were given and as Shahid said himself "I give people the tools they need and hold them accountable". So, if you are calling the people expecting targets to be met, vultures, then you are also using that term against the owner who has backed us to the hilt in recent years.

We don't need to be separate factions within the same fanbase. We all want the same thing.

Then what are you complaining about man, and what do you mean you find yourself for once agreeing with me ? Where on earth have you been, you need educating, you need to come down my local and sup a few pints of Young's Best Bitter, and let me take you under my enormous triceps and you will be better for it and thank me. But I don't want any thanks, and why are you one of these flies round a cow pat, that is not very healthy.
Unwittingly you make the unfortunate error of dissecting everything Fulham do or don't do, there are two teams on the pitch and the other team will try and often do a job on Fulham, that is the nature of the game.
Please do not respond by saying with the players we have we should be sowing up this Division, because that is shoe menders, or better known as cobblers.
If you knew anything about Sports Psychology and I am a connoisseur of this particular area, you will note and identify that the current team has one or two fair weather players for comfort. Last season we had almost a whole team of them.
Not enough leaders, not enough winners, not enough characters, not enough Warriors, not enough fighters, but plenty of passengers.
This season there is much improvement but still that fair weather mentality exists.
As for the Khans, yes the Chairman has been generous and in the main a good owner compared to many.
But don't sell me that old chestnut about their association football knowledge and understanding of the culture of English Football, the Khans have much to learn, it is not a five minute job, there is much work to be done. You have to remember every manager the Khans have hired, the Khans have sacked, what does that signify, apart from the current manager, and like yourself they make many errors of judgement, and don't get me started on the owners son, he less said the better, otherwise you will not get a word in edgeways, I would end up combusting and bursting into flames.
On reflection it is probably best we did not have a pint together, you couldn't keep up with me, and you would have to buy the rounds, before you were under the table.  I would have to carry you home under one arm, whilst reading the Sporting Life in the other.
Success has many fathers, but failure is an orphan.
As you say we are all Fulham supporters at the end of the day. So Happy Days and let's raise a toast and drink to Fulham FC wherever you are, and also remember to drink to swimming with bow legged women.

[filham]

Now five matches since anyone other than Mitro has scored, Cavy Knock and Ried are just not a threat up front and don't look like scoring. Time for a change , Kamara and Kebano to start against Preston perhaps.

[rusty shackleford]

In the last 525 minutes, Mitrovoic has scored 5 goals, we have conceded 7 goals and 3 penalties, but no one else from Fulham has scored. Why is this? We cannot blame just finishing as the xG for non-Mitrovoic players is low too. What is the problem? And, what is the solution?

Because they are kinda crap? Knockaert and Cav are the same player (cut in and blast it into orbit) and Reid is the invisible man

[ByTheRiver]

I am pleased Scott Parker achieved a win last night, otherwise the vultures would be circling like flies round a lump of cows dung.

I found myself agreeing with all of your post for once! But not this bit, come on. If we had have not won the game, on top of poor results against Millwall, Charlton, Barnsley, etc, and gone from being able to make 2nd our own to being completely out of the auto race (which, lets be honest, we would have been had Mitro not used those considerable neck muscles at the death, seeing as Leeds won), then we wouldn't be vultures circling. It would have been clear as day that Parker should have been gone by this morning and the time we are writing this to each other.

I know that is harsh, but that is the situation he has backed himself into with the poorer results throughout the season. The owners made it clear that automatic promotion was the target. The means were given and as Shahid said himself "I give people the tools they need and hold them accountable". So, if you are calling the people expecting targets to be met, vultures, then you are also using that term against the owner who has backed us to the hilt in recent years.

We don't need to be separate factions within the same fanbase. We all want the same thing.

Then what are you complaining about man, and what do you mean you find yourself for once agreeing with me ? Where on earth have you been, you need educating, you need to come down my local and sup a few pints of Young's Best Bitter, and let me take you under my enormous triceps and you will be better for it and thank me. But I don't want any thanks, and why are you one of these flies round a cow pat, that is not very healthy.
Unwittingly you make the unfortunate error of dissecting everything Fulham do or don't do, there are two teams on the pitch and the other team will try and often do a job on Fulham, that is the nature of the game.
Please do not respond by saying with the players we have we should be sowing up this Division, because that is shoe menders, or better known as cobblers.
If you knew anything about Sports Psychology and I am a connoisseur of this particular area, you will note and identify that the current team has one or two fair weather players for comfort. Last season we had almost a whole team of them.
Not enough leaders, not enough winners, not enough characters, not enough Warriors, not enough fighters, but plenty of passengers.
This season there is much improvement but still that fair weather mentality exists.
As for the Khans, yes the Chairman has been generous and in the main a good owner compared to many.
But don't sell me that old chestnut about their association football knowledge and understanding of the culture of English Football, the Khans have much to learn, it is not a five minute job, there is much work to be done. You have to remember every manager the Khans have hired, the Khans have sacked, what does that signify, apart from the current manager, and like yourself they make many errors of judgement, and don't get me started on the owners son, he less said the better, otherwise you will not get a word in edgeways, I would end up combusting and bursting into flames.
On reflection it is probably best we did not have a pint together, you couldn't keep up with me, and you would have to buy the rounds, before you were under the table.  I would have to carry you home under one arm, whilst reading the Sporting Life in the other.
Success has many fathers, but failure is an orphan.
As you say we are all Fulham supporters at the end of the day. So Happy Days and let's raise a toast and drink to Fulham FC wherever you are, and also remember to drink to swimming with bow legged women.

It's a bit early to have started drinking, fella ;)

[The Rational Fan]

If the recruitment team had any sense they would have brought in another striker, one way or another, they had since the summer to dig one out.

According to my rough estimates, the recruitment team spent all the money it has this season on i) devaluing existing players (Fabri, Mawson, MLM, and Seri), ii) extending Cairney and Mitro contracts, iii) buying Hector, Reid, and Cav and iv) loaning Kongolo, Reed, Arter, and Knockaert.

Assuming the devaluations of players were correct, where should the money for another striker should have come from? In other words, who shouldn't have we recruited this season out of Hector, Kongolo, Reed, Arter, Reid, Knockaert and Cav in order to have the money for another striker?

[ByTheRiver]

In the last 525 minutes, Mitrovoic has scored 5 goals, we have conceded 7 goals and 3 penalties, but no one else from Fulham has scored. Why is this? We cannot blame just finishing as the xG for non-Mitrovoic players is low too. What is the problem? And, what is the solution?

Because they are kinda crap? Knockaert and Cav are the same player (cut in and blast it into orbit) and Reid is the invisible man

So all three, who have been absolutely blinding in this league in recent years are, in fact, 'kinda crap' and not the manager/system? All three of them (and many others within the squad) are all off form/crap, at the same time, for many months now, and you don't think that could be related to something binding them all together?

We could have signed Salah and Mane in January and I would be almost certain that they would also look bad in the current setup.

[Logicalman]

I am pleased Scott Parker achieved a win last night, otherwise the vultures would be circling like flies round a lump of cows dung.

I found myself agreeing with all of your post for once! But not this bit, come on. If we had have not won the game, on top of poor results against Millwall, Charlton, Barnsley, etc, and gone from being able to make 2nd our own to being completely out of the auto race (which, lets be honest, we would have been had Mitro not used those considerable neck muscles at the death, seeing as Leeds won), then we wouldn't be vultures circling. It would have been clear as day that Parker should have been gone by this morning and the time we are writing this to each other.

I know that is harsh, but that is the situation he has backed himself into with the poorer results throughout the season. The owners made it clear that automatic promotion was the target. The means were given and as Shahid said himself "I give people the tools they need and hold them accountable". So, if you are calling the people expecting targets to be met, vultures, then you are also using that term against the owner who has backed us to the hilt in recent years.

We don't need to be separate factions within the same fanbase. We all want the same thing.

Then what are you complaining about man, and what do you mean you find yourself for once agreeing with me ? Where on earth have you been, you need educating, you need to come down my local and sup a few pints of Young's Best Bitter, and let me take you under my enormous triceps and you will be better for it and thank me. But I don't want any thanks, and why are you one of these flies round a cow pat, that is not very healthy.
Unwittingly you make the unfortunate error of dissecting everything Fulham do or don't do, there are two teams on the pitch and the other team will try and often do a job on Fulham, that is the nature of the game.
Please do not respond by saying with the players we have we should be sowing up this Division, because that is shoe menders, or better known as cobblers.
If you knew anything about Sports Psychology and I am a connoisseur of this particular area, you will note and identify that the current team has one or two fair weather players for comfort. Last season we had almost a whole team of them.
Not enough leaders, not enough winners, not enough characters, not enough Warriors, not enough fighters, but plenty of passengers.
This season there is much improvement but still that fair weather mentality exists.
As for the Khans, yes the Chairman has been generous and in the main a good owner compared to many.
But don't sell me that old chestnut about their association football knowledge and understanding of the culture of English Football, the Khans have much to learn, it is not a five minute job, there is much work to be done. You have to remember every manager the Khans have hired, the Khans have sacked, what does that signify, apart from the current manager, and like yourself they make many errors of judgement, and don't get me started on the owners son, he less said the better, otherwise you will not get a word in edgeways, I would end up combusting and bursting into flames.
On reflection it is probably best we did not have a pint together, you couldn't keep up with me, and you would have to buy the rounds, before you were under the table.  I would have to carry you home under one arm, whilst reading the Sporting Life in the other.
Success has many fathers, but failure is an orphan.
As you say we are all Fulham supporters at the end of the day. So Happy Days and let's raise a toast and drink to Fulham FC wherever you are, and also remember to drink to swimming with bow legged women.

Nicely put there, Mr WM.

Though the though of you taking another poster under your enormous triceps does raise images that might be unhealthy for younger viewers!  :005:

Joking aside, I agree with what you say, especially about the passengers in the side, they need to work their passage or just get off the bus.

It was good to see the lads didn't give up last night, I will admit, when Mitro missed the pen, I was totally devastated, we hadn't really made enough of chances during the game, but then, when he nutted the ball home, it was like winning promotion all over again, the tension went, and seeing Mitro release that pent-up frustration, showed us what he honestly feels about being at Fulham, he knows he is our key to unlocking games, and the club need to support that.

[Woolly Mammoth]

If the recruitment team had any sense they would have brought in another striker, one way or another, they had since the summer to dig one out.

I am pleased Scott Parker achieved a win last night, otherwise the vultures would be circling like flies round a lump of cows dung.
Get off his back, try and support him and see where he takes us, because he is going nowhere whilst this season is still up and running.

"Get off Parker's back and support him, but feel free to have a go at Tony Khan" - classic.

Of course and why not, he has to take responsibility for his errors of judgement and lack of football knowledge, you should never let a fox into the chicken coup, if he was not his fathers son he would have been sacked a long time ago, as for Parker he is no relation, he is there on merit.
Your argument is like a polar bear on a thinning piece of ice.

[Woolly Mammoth]

I am pleased Scott Parker achieved a win last night, otherwise the vultures would be circling like flies round a lump of cows dung.

I found myself agreeing with all of your post for once! But not this bit, come on. If we had have not won the game, on top of poor results against Millwall, Charlton, Barnsley, etc, and gone from being able to make 2nd our own to being completely out of the auto race (which, lets be honest, we would have been had Mitro not used those considerable neck muscles at the death, seeing as Leeds won), then we wouldn't be vultures circling. It would have been clear as day that Parker should have been gone by this morning and the time we are writing this to each other.

I know that is harsh, but that is the situation he has backed himself into with the poorer results throughout the season. The owners made it clear that automatic promotion was the target. The means were given and as Shahid said himself "I give people the tools they need and hold them accountable". So, if you are calling the people expecting targets to be met, vultures, then you are also using that term against the owner who has backed us to the hilt in recent years.

We don't need to be separate factions within the same fanbase. We all want the same thing.

Then what are you complaining about man, and what do you mean you find yourself for once agreeing with me ? Where on earth have you been, you need educating, you need to come down my local and sup a few pints of Young's Best Bitter, and let me take you under my enormous triceps and you will be better for it and thank me. But I don't want any thanks, and why are you one of these flies round a cow pat, that is not very healthy.
Unwittingly you make the unfortunate error of dissecting everything Fulham do or don't do, there are two teams on the pitch and the other team will try and often do a job on Fulham, that is the nature of the game.
Please do not respond by saying with the players we have we should be sowing up this Division, because that is shoe menders, or better known as cobblers.
If you knew anything about Sports Psychology and I am a connoisseur of this particular area, you will note and identify that the current team has one or two fair weather players for comfort. Last season we had almost a whole team of them.
Not enough leaders, not enough winners, not enough characters, not enough Warriors, not enough fighters, but plenty of passengers.
This season there is much improvement but still that fair weather mentality exists.
As for the Khans, yes the Chairman has been generous and in the main a good owner compared to many.
But don't sell me that old chestnut about their association football knowledge and understanding of the culture of English Football, the Khans have much to learn, it is not a five minute job, there is much work to be done. You have to remember every manager the Khans have hired, the Khans have sacked, what does that signify, apart from the current manager, and like yourself they make many errors of judgement, and don't get me started on the owners son, he less said the better, otherwise you will not get a word in edgeways, I would end up combusting and bursting into flames.
On reflection it is probably best we did not have a pint together, you couldn't keep up with me, and you would have to buy the rounds, before you were under the table.  I would have to carry you home under one arm, whilst reading the Sporting Life in the other.
Success has many fathers, but failure is an orphan.
As you say we are all Fulham supporters at the end of the day. So Happy Days and let's raise a toast and drink to Fulham FC wherever you are, and also remember to drink to swimming with bow legged women.

It's a bit early to have started drinking, fella ;)

It is never too early to drink milk.

[Woolly Mammoth]

I am pleased Scott Parker achieved a win last night, otherwise the vultures would be circling like flies round a lump of cows dung.

I found myself agreeing with all of your post for once! But not this bit, come on. If we had have not won the game, on top of poor results against Millwall, Charlton, Barnsley, etc, and gone from being able to make 2nd our own to being completely out of the auto race (which, lets be honest, we would have been had Mitro not used those considerable neck muscles at the death, seeing as Leeds won), then we wouldn't be vultures circling. It would have been clear as day that Parker should have been gone by this morning and the time we are writing this to each other.

I know that is harsh, but that is the situation he has backed himself into with the poorer results throughout the season. The owners made it clear that automatic promotion was the target. The means were given and as Shahid said himself "I give people the tools they need and hold them accountable". So, if you are calling the people expecting targets to be met, vultures, then you are also using that term against the owner who has backed us to the hilt in recent years.

We don't need to be separate factions within the same fanbase. We all want the same thing.

Then what are you complaining about man, and what do you mean you find yourself for once agreeing with me ? Where on earth have you been, you need educating, you need to come down my local and sup a few pints of Young's Best Bitter, and let me take you under my enormous triceps and you will be better for it and thank me. But I don't want any thanks, and why are you one of these flies round a cow pat, that is not very healthy.
Unwittingly you make the unfortunate error of dissecting everything Fulham do or don't do, there are two teams on the pitch and the other team will try and often do a job on Fulham, that is the nature of the game.
Please do not respond by saying with the players we have we should be sowing up this Division, because that is shoe menders, or better known as cobblers.
If you knew anything about Sports Psychology and I am a connoisseur of this particular area, you will note and identify that the current team has one or two fair weather players for comfort. Last season we had almost a whole team of them.
Not enough leaders, not enough winners, not enough characters, not enough Warriors, not enough fighters, but plenty of passengers.
This season there is much improvement but still that fair weather mentality exists.
As for the Khans, yes the Chairman has been generous and in the main a good owner compared to many.
But don't sell me that old chestnut about their association football knowledge and understanding of the culture of English Football, the Khans have much to learn, it is not a five minute job, there is much work to be done. You have to remember every manager the Khans have hired, the Khans have sacked, what does that signify, apart from the current manager, and like yourself they make many errors of judgement, and don't get me started on the owners son, he less said the better, otherwise you will not get a word in edgeways, I would end up combusting and bursting into flames.
On reflection it is probably best we did not have a pint together, you couldn't keep up with me, and you would have to buy the rounds, before you were under the table.  I would have to carry you home under one arm, whilst reading the Sporting Life in the other.
Success has many fathers, but failure is an orphan.
As you say we are all Fulham supporters at the end of the day. So Happy Days and let's raise a toast and drink to Fulham FC wherever you are, and also remember to drink to swimming with bow legged women.

Nicely put there, Mr WM.

Though the though of you taking another poster under your enormous triceps does raise images that might be unhealthy for younger viewers!  :005:

Joking aside, I agree with what you say, especially about the passengers in the side, they need to work their passage or just get off the bus.

It was good to see the lads didn't give up last night, I will admit, when Mitro missed the pen, I was totally devastated, we hadn't really made enough of chances during the game, but then, when he nutted the ball home, it was like winning promotion all over again, the tension went, and seeing Mitro release that pent-up frustration, showed us what he honestly feels about being at Fulham, he knows he is our key to unlocking games, and the club need to support that.

Absolutely

[Woolly Mammoth]

If the recruitment team had any sense they would have brought in another striker, one way or another, they had since the summer to dig one out.

According to my rough estimates, the recruitment team spent all the money it has this season on i) devaluing existing players (Fabri, Mawson, MLM, and Seri), ii) extending Cairney and Mitro contracts, iii) buying Hector, Reid, and Cav and iv) loaning Kongolo, Reed, Arter, and Knockaert.

Assuming the devaluations of players were correct, where should the money for another striker should have come from? In other words, who shouldn't have we recruited this season out of Hector, Kongolo, Reed, Arter, Reid, Knockaert and Cav in order to have the money for another striker?

Too much assuming TRF, but now you ask the question and it is a good one, and I have the advantage of being wise after the event. Kongolo followed by Arter, but I do confess I was happy and in favour of Arter joining us.

[Carborundum]

The answer is that we pick wingers who take conservative positions when we attack on the opposite wing.  Helps avoid being killed on the counter, but not a recipe for goals galore.

I only go to home games and after the missed penalty reflected that it had been four playing hours since seeing Fulham score at all.  Delighted we then did score, identity of scorer fine by me.

[Statto]

In the last 525 minutes, Mitrovoic has scored 5 goals, we have conceded 7 goals and 3 penalties, but no one else from Fulham has scored. Why is this? We cannot blame just finishing as the xG for non-Mitrovoic players is low too. What is the problem? And, what is the solution?

Because they are kinda crap? Knockaert and Cav are the same player (cut in and blast it into orbit) and Reid is the invisible man

So all three, who have been absolutely blinding in this league in recent years are, in fact, 'kinda crap' and not the manager/system? All three of them (and many others within the squad) are all off form/crap, at the same time, for many months now, and you don't think that could be related to something binding them all together?

We could have signed Salah and Mane in January and I would be almost certain that they would also look bad in the current setup.

Exactly

Happy to concede Knockaert is well off form this season - although that arguably raises questions about SP's competence in terms of motivation/discipline 

But Reid, Cairney and Cavaliero are clearly not being utilised correctly

Cavaliero needs to play on the right for a start