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Hancocks Half Hour

Started by Enfield, May 15, 2020, 10:22:41 PM

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Enfield

Never really liked the original, but the current one is beyond belief.
Would you buy a second hand car from this man.
Why can he not ever give a straight answer to a question.
( Sorry NFR )

bog

I agree about the latter but not the former. To me that always had a brilliant script.

As for this bloke how would he do on Mastermind?  Specialist subject:- The Corona Virus what to do? 

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filham

Always enjoyed Hancocks Half Hour both on radio and television., The Blood Donor is perhaps the most memorable.
Now please enlighten me is there a new show available , which TV channel is it on.


gang

Tony Hancock was very funny but low on confidence, he committed suicide in Sydney in 1968 leaving a note saying "Things just seemed to go wrong too many times.
The blood doner sketch did wonders for the British Blood Doners Bank.

Russianrob

A little before my time but a national institution once,like Arfer Daley.

bog

Quote from: filham on May 16, 2020, 09:57:42 AM
Always enjoyed Hancocks Half Hour both on radio and television., The Blood Donor is perhaps the most memorable.
Now please enlighten me is there a new show available , which TV channel is it on.

The Blood Donor.

'You want a pint? That's practically an armful!'  Surely one of the great lines from situation comedy.

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Stoneleigh Loyalist

#6
About 1959 I went to a tv recording of Hancocks Half Hour at the old Riverside Studios Hammersmith.
Very primitive cameras and sets in those days and bits of script all over the place for Tony Hancock to read.
If you ever see a grainy old recording of the programme watch for the direction of Tony Hancock's eyes.

Lighthouse

Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on May 16, 2020, 01:26:10 PM
About 1959 I went to a tv recording of Hancocks Half Hour at the old Riverside Studios Hammersmith.
Very primitive cameras and sets in those days and bits of script all over the place for Tony Hancock to read.
If you ever see a grainy old recording of the programme watch for the direction of Tony Hancock's eyes.

He lost confidence after a car crash and so had scripts put on the set for him to read.

Must admit was a fan of the radio and tv and have the films and tv on DVD as well as the radio series.
The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

We may yet hear the horse talk.

I can stand my own despair but not others hope

RaySmith

Quote from: Lighthouse on May 16, 2020, 01:33:34 PM
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on May 16, 2020, 01:26:10 PM
About 1959 I went to a tv recording of Hancocks Half Hour at the old Riverside Studios Hammersmith.
Very primitive cameras and sets in those days and bits of script all over the place for Tony Hancock to read.
If you ever see a grainy old recording of the programme watch for the direction of Tony Hancock's eyes.

He lost confidence after a car crash and so had scripts put on the set for him to read.

Must admit was a fan of the radio and tv and have the films and tv on DVD as well as the radio series.
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A big fan of him too.
I read a bio of him, found it very compelling.

He had a lot of  psychological problems. He came to fame entertaining the troops during the  War, then went into radio, and also doing live shows. he was very popular, but constantly self sabotaged his won success, with his drinking and behaviour.

He  sacked Galton  and Simpson, the writers of his TV show, which was a big mistake. He went over to ITV, but the show was never as good in a different format.

A terrible alcoholic, who had three wives, who kept  forgiving him and going back to him despite the  awful way he  often treated them when drunk.

Killed himself in an Australia, while on a tour to  save his career, but drink, again,  made him unreliable.

He was a very vulnerable man, who never felt good enough, and mainly harmed himself rather than others.  I felt sympathy for him, and was moved by his sad end.


filham

Worth mentioning how well Hancock was supported in those programmes by Sid James and Bill Kerr.

PhilEsh

" Its not raining in Tokyo

I know, I've just been speaking to him

He cant even understand me I dont know how he manages with you"

Woolly Mammoth

 I thought he was a genius, but there can be a fine line between genius and going off the edge.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.


Lighthouse

Quote from: RaySmith on May 16, 2020, 01:54:00 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on May 16, 2020, 01:33:34 PM
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on May 16, 2020, 01:26:10 PM
About 1959 I went to a tv recording of Hancocks Half Hour at the old Riverside Studios Hammersmith.
Very primitive cameras and sets in those days and bits of script all over the place for Tony Hancock to read.
If you ever see a grainy old recording of the programme watch for the direction of Tony Hancock's eyes.

He lost confidence after a car crash and so had scripts put on the set for him to read.

Must admit was a fan of the radio and tv and have the films and tv on DVD as well as the radio series.
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A big fan of him too.
I read a bio of him, found it very compelling.

He had a lot of  psychological problems. He came to fame entertaining the troops during the  War, then went into radio, and also doing live shows. he was very popular, but constantly self sabotaged his won success, with his drinking and behaviour.

He  sacked Galton  and Simpson, the writers of his TV show, which was a big mistake. He went over to ITV, but the show was never as good in a different format.

A terrible alcoholic, who had three wives, who kept  forgiving him and going back to him despite the  awful way he  often treated them when drunk.

Killed himself in an Australia, while on a tour to  save his career, but drink, again,  made him unreliable.

He was a very vulnerable man, who never felt good enough, and mainly harmed himself rather than others.  I felt sympathy for him, and was moved by his sad end.

Although the ITV shows were considered a poor relation to his Galton and Simpson years. Many of his classics are in the ITV era. But like many people with an inferiority complex he was always trying and thinking he could do better and others were holding him back. When he didn't want to be considered a double act. Sid James was sidelined. His whole career was littered with 'what ifs' instead 'what was'. Fascinating character and the typical clown crying inside. He did that famous tv interview where he brought up the old story of the man going to the doctors because he was miserable. When told he should go the see the great clown who was in town the patient  remarked that he was that clown.
The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

We may yet hear the horse talk.

I can stand my own despair but not others hope

Peabody

Quote from: filham on May 16, 2020, 09:57:42 AM
Always enjoyed Hancocks Half Hour both on radio and television., The Blood Donor is perhaps the most memorable.
Now please enlighten me is there a new show available , which TV channel is it on.

I think he is referring to Health Minister Matt Hancock, you know, the next fall guy, even though he doesn't play for us.

filham

Quote from: Peabody on May 16, 2020, 09:21:00 PM
Quote from: filham on May 16, 2020, 09:57:42 AM
Always enjoyed Hancocks Half Hour both on radio and television., The Blood Donor is perhaps the most memorable.
Now please enlighten me is there a new show available , which TV channel is it on.

I think he is referring to Health Minister Matt Hancock, you know, the next fall guy, even though he doesn't play for us.

Yes, I was very slow on the uptake but I think it is being hard on Matt Hancock, he is having to tread uncharted waters.
He did make a mistake with that impossible target on testing and really boobed by trying to achieve the target by putting thousands of test kits in the post and counting them as tests on his deadline day.


Fulham1959

Isn't it funny that everyone in the crowd, in the pub and in the media, knows exactly what a football manager SHOULD have done, or should be doing, in any given situation (but didn't do /isn't doing).

Now, in the current health crisis, everyone in the media, in political opposition and a great many in the wider public also know exactly what steps ministers should and shouldn't have taken at every stage.

How come all the experts, in both scenarios, are not in these powerful positions so that they could initiate their marvellous strategies ?

filham

Quote from: Fulham1959 on May 18, 2020, 05:40:39 PM
Isn't it funny that everyone in the crowd, in the pub and in the media, knows exactly what a football manager SHOULD have done, or should be doing, in any given situation (but didn't do /isn't doing).

Now, in the current health crisis, everyone in the media, in political opposition and a great many in the wider public also know exactly what steps ministers should and shouldn't have taken at every stage.

How come all the experts, in both scenarios, are not in these powerful positions so that they could initiate their marvellous strategies ?
You just wait until it is in the past and people are able to comment with the benefit of hindsight, only then will the real experts put their heads above the parapet.

bobbo

Quote from: filham on May 18, 2020, 06:08:46 PM
Quote from: Fulham1959 on May 18, 2020, 05:40:39 PM
Isn't it funny that everyone in the crowd, in the pub and in the media, knows exactly what a football manager SHOULD have done, or should be doing, in any given situation (but didn't do /isn't doing).

Now, in the current health crisis, everyone in the media, in political opposition and a great many in the wider public also know exactly what steps ministers should and shouldn't have taken at every stage.

How come all the experts, in both scenarios, are not in these powerful positions so that they could initiate their marvellous strategies ?
You just wait until it is in the past and people are able to comment with the benefit of hindsight, only then will the real experts put their heads above the parapet.
Quote from: filham on May 18, 2020, 06:08:46 PM
Quote from: Fulham1959 on May 18, 2020, 05:40:39 PM
Isn't it funny that everyone in the crowd, in the pub and in the media, knows exactly what a football manager SHOULD have done, or should be doing, in any given situation (but didn't do /isn't doing).

Now, in the current health crisis, everyone in the media, in political opposition and a great many in the wider public also know exactly what steps ministers should and shouldn't have taken at every stage.

How come all the experts, in both scenarios, are not in these powerful positions so that they could initiate their marvellous strategies ?
You just wait until it is in the past and people are able to comment with the benefit of hindsight, only then will the real experts put their heads above the parapet.
youre probably right there Fulham. I'm loathed to criticise any of them for their strategies, it untrodden ground for everyone. Some countries have got lucky with their way of handling it an some have not. What I don't like is the bog standard " we're working on it 24/7 " and glossing over the problem. I just would prefer a few more straight honest answers. But don't blame all those young ministers reporting to us it's not their fault.
1975 just leaving home full of hope


keithh

Sorry, I thought the best thing about the shows was Sid James.

ron

I read an article about Hancock, the author of which I can't remember. He wrote that Hancock was so insecure about supporting actors stealing his scenes that he did away with them one by one  "....ending up by doing away with himself".

Odd, sad, and unimaginable to anyone not in that frame of mind.