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Who would you sign? (be a DOF for the day)

Started by Deeping_white, August 15, 2020, 10:29:13 PM

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Deeping_white

Just for a bit of fun to pass the time and to keep a separate thread about hypothetical signings to keep the silly season thread clear of some clutter, whilst we wait for an actual signing/kit reveal/official Riverside stand update, should you wake up tomorrow and be the DoF for Fulham and you've got a decent budget of £75m (not entirely unreasonable considering we apparently want/need circa 6 players and a decent PL player costs on average around £10-15m nowadays), who would you sign?

You can spend it all on two players if you really feel like it, but if you were trying to consolidate the squad for the coming season with players we've either been linked to or some left field picks you'd want to see us sign, who would you pick with £75m to play with? You can also top the budget up with outgoings if you feel like it, but I thought I'd keep it simple for now and stick with incomings.

My list would be 5 first team players with two more for the future who could challenge the first team ASAP, and comes to a bargain £59.5m:

1) Antonee Robinson (LB - £1.5m) - depth LB or starting LB if we move Bryan to LW to make the left wing more secure
2) John Brooks (CB - £10m)
3) Harrison Reed (CDM - £8m)
4) John Paul Boetius (AM/LW - £10m) - depth option AM/winger until he can dislodge one of the current squad
5) Boulaye Dia (ST - £10m) - depending on how we utilise AK as a striker winger, this guy is in a similar mould to AK himself but he's coming off the back of a decent season in Ligue 1 and is only 23
6) Dael Fry (CB - £15m) - already doing it in the championship and could be ready for the PL but I wouldn't sign him and pin our hopes on him as he's still young so would bring him on slowly.
7) Reggie Cannon (RB - £5m) - potential to be like Freddo but muuuuuuch better, work permit would be an issue but he's already a solid young player who will get better.

wheelerdeeler

#1
I've said it in the Transfers thread well.
4 signings needed, another 3 on top as a "bonus". Needed are a LCB, RB, Harrison Reed and a Winger. Bonuses are a back-up Left-Back, another Centre-Mid and a proper back-up Striker who can hold the ball up.

Ethan Pinnock, LCB (12m)
Joakim Maehle, RB (14m)
Harrison Reed (8m)
Ryan Babel (get Babel + Cash from Galatasaray for Seri ideally)

Antonee Robinson, LB (1.5m)
Either Harry Arter for ~5m as a "dependable" 5th choice Centre-Mid or a "prospect" of someone like Enock Mwepu for (15m)
Ivan Toney (6-8m)

So let's say we get 5m + Babel for Seri it would be a net spend of about 45-55m depending on if you go dependable or prospect at Centre-Mid.

Black, White and Fred

I would spend whatever it takes to get Smalling back to partner Hector and then bring Zambo back into the squad. Anything left I spend on a backup number 9. Straight swap Seri for Babel for good measure.
'A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.'

Friedrich Nietzsche

3rd Gen Fulham Fan since 1996


Karlos

Clyne at RB
Smalling/Jones CB
Robinson LB
Reed DMC
Fraser RW
Wellbeck CF

Good Premier league experience, wouldnt cost the earth and all decent ages for fitting into the squad

wheelerdeeler

One thing I was looking at was Ezequiel Garay on a Free, especially because Tony Khan was talking up his relationship with Jorge Mendes last summer when we signed Cavaleiro- but if I was DoF I wouldn't have that.

AnOldBrownie

#5
Chris Smalling - CB  - Probably cost us 25 mil
Kevin MBabu -  RB (Wolfsburg...undertilized...strong...  but not sure about his crossing)   18 mil release clause
Ryan Babel swap for Seri -   Even at his age he plays better team ball and is faster/stronger than Knockhaert.   5 mil and send Seri the other way.

Harrison Reed -  15 mil

Antonee Robinson or Rico Henry - 10 mil


25
18
5
15
10

73 million and we heavily improve defensively.   

Chris Smalling is still a very good CB.  Arguably top 20 in the premier league. Partnered with a defensive LB like Rico or Anthony, we should be able to stop a lot of attacks coming down our left side.

Kevin Mbabu is a physical RB...is 25 and is fast.   Like his potential...but I've read that he's not a good passer of the ball.

Ryan Babel...because he's still fast, strong and can play both the striker role and play out wide.   He's a better premier league player than Knock or Cav...and if he can be had for 5 million...he's a positive addition.  He also tracks back and helps on defense just like Knockhaert does.   And unlike Anthony, Ryan doesn't dribble too much.

Harrison Reed - Duh

Antonee Robinson or Rico Henry -  We don't know if Joe can take the wear and tear of a 38 game premier league season.    I don't want MLM or Odoi starting any games at left back if Joe goes down to injury.     Plus Rico is a lights out on the ball defender.



Notes:
I'd swap Kevin for Matt Cash...but I think Kevin's physical nature and pace would be ideal for the EPL.

Rico Henry would be a much cheaper option than Robinson will be.  European sides are going to bid for him.   He could cost as much as 20 million.


Loan MLM...bring back Kongolo on loan.


Deeping_white

Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 15, 2020, 11:34:44 PM
Chris Smalling - CB  - Probably cost us 25 mil
Kevin MBabu -  RB (Wolfsburg...undertilized...strong...  but not sure about his crossing)   18 mil release clause
Ryan Babel swap for Seri -   Even at his age he plays better team ball and is faster/stronger than Knockhaert.   5 mil and send Seri the other way.

Harrison Reed -  15 mil

Antonee Robinson or Rico Henry - 10 mil


25
18
5
15
10

73 million and we heavily improve defensively.   

Chris Smalling is still a very good CB.  Arguably top 20 in the premier league. Partnered with a defensive LB like Rico or Anthony, we should be able to stop a lot of attacks coming down our left side.

Kevin Mbabu is a physical RB...is 25 and is fast.   Like his potential...but I've read that he's not a good passer of the ball.

Ryan Babel...because he's still fast, strong and can play both the striker role and play out wide.   He's a better premier league player than Knock or Cav...and if he can be had for 5 million...he's a positive addition.  He also tracks back and helps on defense just like Knockhaert does.   And unlike Anthony, Ryan doesn't dribble too much.

Harrison Reed - Duh

Antonee Robinson or Rico Henry -  We don't know if Joe can take the wear and tear of a 38 game premier league season.    I don't want MLM or Odoi starting any games at left back if Joe goes down to injury.     Plus Rico is a lights out on the ball defender.



Notes:
I'd swap Kevin for Matt Cash...but I think Kevin's physical nature and pace would be ideal for the EPL.

Rico Henry would be a much cheaper option than Robinson will be.  European sides are going to bid for him.   He could cost as much as 20 million.


Loan MLM...bring back Kongolo on loan.

Reed is going to cost £8m if we buy him, and if Rico Henry costs more than £1.5m then he's more expensive than Robinson who has a set release clause due to relegation and the fact that Wigan's administrators want him out ASAP.

AnOldBrownie

Quote from: Deeping_white on August 16, 2020, 12:56:01 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 15, 2020, 11:34:44 PM
Chris Smalling - CB  - Probably cost us 25 mil
Kevin MBabu -  RB (Wolfsburg...undertilized...strong...  but not sure about his crossing)   18 mil release clause
Ryan Babel swap for Seri -   Even at his age he plays better team ball and is faster/stronger than Knockhaert.   5 mil and send Seri the other way.

Harrison Reed -  15 mil

Antonee Robinson or Rico Henry - 10 mil


25
18
5
15
10

73 million and we heavily improve defensively.   

Chris Smalling is still a very good CB.  Arguably top 20 in the premier league. Partnered with a defensive LB like Rico or Anthony, we should be able to stop a lot of attacks coming down our left side.

Kevin Mbabu is a physical RB...is 25 and is fast.   Like his potential...but I've read that he's not a good passer of the ball.

Ryan Babel...because he's still fast, strong and can play both the striker role and play out wide.   He's a better premier league player than Knock or Cav...and if he can be had for 5 million...he's a positive addition.  He also tracks back and helps on defense just like Knockhaert does.   And unlike Anthony, Ryan doesn't dribble too much.

Harrison Reed - Duh

Antonee Robinson or Rico Henry -  We don't know if Joe can take the wear and tear of a 38 game premier league season.    I don't want MLM or Odoi starting any games at left back if Joe goes down to injury.     Plus Rico is a lights out on the ball defender.



Notes:
I'd swap Kevin for Matt Cash...but I think Kevin's physical nature and pace would be ideal for the EPL.

Rico Henry would be a much cheaper option than Robinson will be.  European sides are going to bid for him.   He could cost as much as 20 million.


Loan MLM...bring back Kongolo on loan.

Reed is going to cost £8m if we buy him, and if Rico Henry costs more than £1.5m then he's more expensive than Robinson who has a set release clause due to relegation and the fact that Wigan's administrators want him out ASAP.

Question.  Reed definitely won't cost a transfer fee higher than £8m even if other teams are in for him?   

2nd Question.  The release clause says Wigan must sell him for only £1.5m transfer fee?  I didn't know it would inhibit other teams from offering more than the £1.5

AnOldBrownie

Quote from: wheelerdeeler on August 15, 2020, 10:50:47 PM
I've said it in the Transfers thread well.
4 signings needed, another 3 on top as a "bonus". Needed are a LCB, RB, Harrison Reed and a Winger. Bonuses are a back-up Left-Back, another Centre-Mid and a proper back-up Striker who can hold the ball up.

Ethan Pinnock, LCB (12m)
Joakim Maehle, RB (14m)
Harrison Reed (8m)
Ryan Babel (get Babel + Cash from Galatasaray for Seri ideally)

Antonee Robinson, LB (1.5m)
Either Harry Arter for ~5m as a "dependable" 5th choice Centre-Mid or a "prospect" of someone like Enock Mwepu for (15m)
Ivan Toney (6-8m)

So let's say we get 5m + Babel for Seri it would be a net spend of about 45-55m depending on if you go dependable or prospect at Centre-Mid.

I agree with this, if my options don't work.   Think we need a better CB than Pinnock though.

And with your figures, I'd also like to bring back Kongolo.


Deeping_white

Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 16, 2020, 01:21:42 AM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 16, 2020, 12:56:01 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 15, 2020, 11:34:44 PM
Chris Smalling - CB  - Probably cost us 25 mil
Kevin MBabu -  RB (Wolfsburg...undertilized...strong...  but not sure about his crossing)   18 mil release clause
Ryan Babel swap for Seri -   Even at his age he plays better team ball and is faster/stronger than Knockhaert.   5 mil and send Seri the other way.

Harrison Reed -  15 mil

Antonee Robinson or Rico Henry - 10 mil


25
18
5
15
10

73 million and we heavily improve defensively.   

Chris Smalling is still a very good CB.  Arguably top 20 in the premier league. Partnered with a defensive LB like Rico or Anthony, we should be able to stop a lot of attacks coming down our left side.

Kevin Mbabu is a physical RB...is 25 and is fast.   Like his potential...but I've read that he's not a good passer of the ball.

Ryan Babel...because he's still fast, strong and can play both the striker role and play out wide.   He's a better premier league player than Knock or Cav...and if he can be had for 5 million...he's a positive addition.  He also tracks back and helps on defense just like Knockhaert does.   And unlike Anthony, Ryan doesn't dribble too much.

Harrison Reed - Duh

Antonee Robinson or Rico Henry -  We don't know if Joe can take the wear and tear of a 38 game premier league season.    I don't want MLM or Odoi starting any games at left back if Joe goes down to injury.     Plus Rico is a lights out on the ball defender.



Notes:
I'd swap Kevin for Matt Cash...but I think Kevin's physical nature and pace would be ideal for the EPL.

Rico Henry would be a much cheaper option than Robinson will be.  European sides are going to bid for him.   He could cost as much as 20 million.


Loan MLM...bring back Kongolo on loan.

Reed is going to cost £8m if we buy him, and if Rico Henry costs more than £1.5m then he's more expensive than Robinson who has a set release clause due to relegation and the fact that Wigan's administrators want him out ASAP.

Question.  Reed definitely won't cost a transfer fee higher than £8m even if other teams are in for him?   

2nd Question.  The release clause says Wigan must sell him for only £1.5m transfer fee?  I didn't know it would inhibit other teams from offering more than the £1.5

No because we negotiated a fee with Southampton so that if we went up, he would cost X which £8m in this case. Other teams might bid over £8m or match it but that's up to Southampton to deal with them, we agreed that price up front and so we can trigger it should Reed wish to come back to us (which going by various sources it seems like it should happen).

Teams could bid more than £1.5m for Robinson if they wished, but they literally only have to bid £1.5m to trigger it so I don't think anyone is going to do so. The administrators will accept any bid that meets that £1.5m value as they need to raise funds to get the club out of admin so offering £10m is a waste of money, it's why we've apparently offered him £50k per week because if several PL clubs meet the release clause then it boils down to who offers him the most attractive deal.

AnOldBrownie

Oh...the 1.5 is what is paid for Wigan to release all claim to what happens to him?

Well then...it would indeed be about his weekly salary and where he wants to play then.

Hopefully Clint Dempsey put in a call to his fellow American.   :003:

The Rational Fan

#11
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 16, 2020, 01:41:37 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 16, 2020, 01:21:42 AM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 16, 2020, 12:56:01 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 15, 2020, 11:34:44 PM
Chris Smalling - CB  - Probably cost us 25 mil
Kevin MBabu -  RB (Wolfsburg...undertilized...strong...  but not sure about his crossing)   18 mil release clause
Ryan Babel swap for Seri -   Even at his age he plays better team ball and is faster/stronger than Knockhaert.   5 mil and send Seri the other way.

Harrison Reed -  15 mil

Antonee Robinson or Rico Henry - 10 mil


25
18
5
15
10

73 million and we heavily improve defensively.   

Chris Smalling is still a very good CB.  Arguably top 20 in the premier league. Partnered with a defensive LB like Rico or Anthony, we should be able to stop a lot of attacks coming down our left side.

Kevin Mbabu is a physical RB...is 25 and is fast.   Like his potential...but I've read that he's not a good passer of the ball.

Ryan Babel...because he's still fast, strong and can play both the striker role and play out wide.   He's a better premier league player than Knock or Cav...and if he can be had for 5 million...he's a positive addition.  He also tracks back and helps on defense just like Knockhaert does.   And unlike Anthony, Ryan doesn't dribble too much.

Harrison Reed - Duh

Antonee Robinson or Rico Henry -  We don't know if Joe can take the wear and tear of a 38 game premier league season.    I don't want MLM or Odoi starting any games at left back if Joe goes down to injury.     Plus Rico is a lights out on the ball defender.



Notes:
I'd swap Kevin for Matt Cash...but I think Kevin's physical nature and pace would be ideal for the EPL.

Rico Henry would be a much cheaper option than Robinson will be.  European sides are going to bid for him.   He could cost as much as 20 million.


Loan MLM...bring back Kongolo on loan.

Reed is going to cost £8m if we buy him, and if Rico Henry costs more than £1.5m then he's more expensive than Robinson who has a set release clause due to relegation and the fact that Wigan's administrators want him out ASAP.

Question.  Reed definitely won't cost a transfer fee higher than £8m even if other teams are in for him?   

2nd Question.  The release clause says Wigan must sell him for only £1.5m transfer fee?  I didn't know it would inhibit other teams from offering more than the £1.5

No because we negotiated a fee with Southampton so that if we went up, he would cost X which £8m in this case. Other teams might bid over £8m or match it but that's up to Southampton to deal with them, we agreed that price up front and so we can trigger it should Reed wish to come back to us (which going by various sources it seems like it should happen).

Teams could bid more than £1.5m for Robinson if they wished, but they literally only have to bid £1.5m to trigger it so I don't think anyone is going to do so. The administrators will accept any bid that meets that £1.5m value as they need to raise funds to get the club out of admin so offering £10m is a waste of money, it's why we've apparently offered him £50k per week because if several PL clubs meet the release clause then it boils down to who offers him the most attractive deal.

Reed could cost any price, because we have only agreed £8m with Southampton and reports are  Harrison Reeds wages need to be agreed. I think Reed could easily ask for higher wages than Anguiissa, Seri and Mitro. TK probably doesn't want to pay anyone more than Mitro, especially if unproven in premier league. Crystal Palace and West Ham pay much higher wages than us, so they can get better players than us with a £10m transfer fee. The Khans have never paid any player what Reed could get in wages.


MrFFC

Matty Cash
Antonee Robinson
Terrance Kongolo
Ethan Empadu
Eberechi Eze
Harrison Reed
Ivan Toney
Come on you Whites!! :)

Deeping_white

Quote from: The Rational Fan on August 16, 2020, 02:06:36 AM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 16, 2020, 01:41:37 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 16, 2020, 01:21:42 AM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 16, 2020, 12:56:01 AM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 15, 2020, 11:34:44 PM
Chris Smalling - CB  - Probably cost us 25 mil
Kevin MBabu -  RB (Wolfsburg...undertilized...strong...  but not sure about his crossing)   18 mil release clause
Ryan Babel swap for Seri -   Even at his age he plays better team ball and is faster/stronger than Knockhaert.   5 mil and send Seri the other way.

Harrison Reed -  15 mil

Antonee Robinson or Rico Henry - 10 mil


25
18
5
15
10

73 million and we heavily improve defensively.   

Chris Smalling is still a very good CB.  Arguably top 20 in the premier league. Partnered with a defensive LB like Rico or Anthony, we should be able to stop a lot of attacks coming down our left side.

Kevin Mbabu is a physical RB...is 25 and is fast.   Like his potential...but I've read that he's not a good passer of the ball.

Ryan Babel...because he's still fast, strong and can play both the striker role and play out wide.   He's a better premier league player than Knock or Cav...and if he can be had for 5 million...he's a positive addition.  He also tracks back and helps on defense just like Knockhaert does.   And unlike Anthony, Ryan doesn't dribble too much.

Harrison Reed - Duh

Antonee Robinson or Rico Henry -  We don't know if Joe can take the wear and tear of a 38 game premier league season.    I don't want MLM or Odoi starting any games at left back if Joe goes down to injury.     Plus Rico is a lights out on the ball defender.



Notes:
I'd swap Kevin for Matt Cash...but I think Kevin's physical nature and pace would be ideal for the EPL.

Rico Henry would be a much cheaper option than Robinson will be.  European sides are going to bid for him.   He could cost as much as 20 million.


Loan MLM...bring back Kongolo on loan.

Reed is going to cost £8m if we buy him, and if Rico Henry costs more than £1.5m then he's more expensive than Robinson who has a set release clause due to relegation and the fact that Wigan's administrators want him out ASAP.

Question.  Reed definitely won't cost a transfer fee higher than £8m even if other teams are in for him?   

2nd Question.  The release clause says Wigan must sell him for only £1.5m transfer fee?  I didn't know it would inhibit other teams from offering more than the £1.5

No because we negotiated a fee with Southampton so that if we went up, he would cost X which £8m in this case. Other teams might bid over £8m or match it but that's up to Southampton to deal with them, we agreed that price up front and so we can trigger it should Reed wish to come back to us (which going by various sources it seems like it should happen).

Teams could bid more than £1.5m for Robinson if they wished, but they literally only have to bid £1.5m to trigger it so I don't think anyone is going to do so. The administrators will accept any bid that meets that £1.5m value as they need to raise funds to get the club out of admin so offering £10m is a waste of money, it's why we've apparently offered him £50k per week because if several PL clubs meet the release clause then it boils down to who offers him the most attractive deal.

Reed could cost any price, because we have only agreed £8m with Southampton and reports are  Harrison Reeds wages need to be agreed. I think Reed could easily ask for higher wages than Anguiissa, Seri and Mitro. TK probably doesn't want to pay anyone more than Mitro, especially if unproven in premier league. Crystal Palace and West Ham pay much higher wages than us, so they can get better players than us with a £10m transfer fee. The Khans have never paid any player what Reed could get in wages.

That's a whole lot of words to say if but and maybe. Why would Reed be able to command a bigger wage than two players who have European competition experience and a striker with a proven PL track record when he's never played in the top league in this country?

I don't think you'll find Palace do pay higher wages than us, with the exception of Zaha who they've done everything to keep and will eventually lose him because he's too good for them

Statto

#14
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 16, 2020, 09:57:23 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on August 16, 2020, 02:06:36 AM
Reed could cost any price, because we have only agreed £8m with Southampton and reports are  Harrison Reeds wages need to be agreed. I think Reed could easily ask for higher wages than Anguiissa, Seri and Mitro. TK probably doesn't want to pay anyone more than Mitro, especially if unproven in premier league. Crystal Palace and West Ham pay much higher wages than us, so they can get better players than us with a £10m transfer fee. The Khans have never paid any player what Reed could get in wages.

That's a whole lot of words to say if but and maybe. Why would Reed be able to command a bigger wage than two players who have European competition experience and a striker with a proven PL track record when he's never played in the top league in this country?

I don't think you'll find Palace do pay higher wages than us, with the exception of Zaha who they've done everything to keep and will eventually lose him because he's too good for them

Palace's wage bill last year was £120m. Ours won't be more than than two thirds of that. Quite a big difference because it's like us offering Reed £40k pw and them offering him £60k.

Although FWIW I don't think Reed will command more wages that Seri, Anguissa and Mitro (about £80k?) at any club. He's a tidy, bottom half PL defensive midfielder. Let's not get carried away.


filham

Three player within the next week, essential they are up and running for the first match in four weeks time.

1 Reed
2. Babel.
3. Smalling

Nothing spectacular there but well proven, solid performers that will blend in and help maintain the good team spirit.

Then I would approach Brentford to see if they are prepared to release one of theit three strikers, Even if nothing comes of this we will have worried Brentford fans.

Statto

To answer the OP, not sure about every position but among others

Reed
Kongolo - if he passes a medical
Benrahma

rebel

Quote from: Statto on August 16, 2020, 11:39:24 AM
To answer the OP, not sure about every position but among others

Reed
Kongolo - if he passes a medical
Benrahma

Kongolo, not a great debut.


KJS

More to the point what Goal Keeper would you bring in?
I'd go for Butland with Rodak competing against him

filham

Quote from: KJS on August 16, 2020, 12:27:34 PM
More to the point what Goal Keeper would you bring in?
I'd go for Butland with Rodak competing against him
We are alright for keepers , why rock the boat.