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Knockaert

Started by fulhamben, September 16, 2020, 07:37:26 PM

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WindyCity

Finishing has been a problem for a while now, including much of last season. 

BDR misses another rebound tap-in chance with keeper on the floor.  Just more of the same......

fulhamben

Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on September 16, 2020, 08:56:22 PM
If DC Reid & Knockaert have the cheek to ask why they aren't playing in the next few games they need their arses kicking!
In fact they need their arse's kicking anyway!
sad thing is, knockeart played really well, its just his end product
CHRIS MARTIN IS SO BAD,  WE NOW PRAISE HIM FOR MAKING A RUN.

AnOldBrownie

Quote from: fulhamben on September 16, 2020, 07:37:26 PM
Is the worse finisher i think I've ever seen in a Fulham shirt.

BDR is a close second.   


keithh

Can I just say that Robinson will be good for us if he looks up when crossing the ball.

AnOldBrownie

Quote from: FFC1987 on September 16, 2020, 07:38:12 PM
At least he looks technically decent and tries to get on the ball.

Effort... is great and all...but if you don't have quality effort doesn't get you anything.


BDR has the same problem...great effort...but where is the quality.

I guess...it has to be a balance.   I thought Seri never showed a good amount of effort, but he has some quality (he was also played way out of position by us).

Zambo...I get why some question his effort sometimes...but you can't really question his quality.   You can see it on the pitch.

We need quality in the EPL.   Imo  BDR and KNock don't have it.

Count Flapula

Frustrating thing about Knockaert is his first time crossing is actually pretty good when he does it (Reading away last year an example) - problem is he never bloody does it!

No wonder Mitro looks so frustrated with him half the time.


AnOldBrownie

Quote from: Count Flapula on September 16, 2020, 09:05:21 PM
Frustrating thing about Knockaert is his first time crossing is actually pretty good when he does it (Reading away last year an example) - problem is he never bloody does it!

No wonder Mitro looks so frustrated with him half the time.

Agreed.   I also don't know why Scott doesn't use him on the left more often.   I'm actually ok with keeping Knock (BDR and Cav should be loaned)...but Fulham need a better starting right sided attacker.

BestOfBrede

I know he's not playing but Cavaleiro is worse than Knock and Bdr
At least the other two try whereas Cav doesn't appear to give much.
Instead of buying these 3 we could have had money to spare.

Statto

Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 16, 2020, 09:17:59 PM
I know he's not playing but Cavaleiro is worse than Knock and Bdr
At least the other two try whereas Cav doesn't appear to give much.
Instead of buying these 3 we could have had money to spare.

Well we know Cav scores and creates more goals than those two, so if he does it without even trying as hard as them, and also not even being played in his best position, then that suggests he must be a far more talented player


Radiowhite

He works very hard which is his saving grace I think

BestOfBrede

Quote from: Statto on September 16, 2020, 09:28:47 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 16, 2020, 09:17:59 PM
I know he's not playing but Cavaleiro is worse than Knock and Bdr
At least the other two try whereas Cav doesn't appear to give much.
Instead of buying these 3 we could have had money to spare.

Well we know Cav scores and creates more goals than those two, so if he does it without even trying as hard as them, and also not even being played in his best position, then that suggests he must be a far more talented player
So you say...
I think he gets caught constantly and loses the ball, doesn't chase back and often doesn't make space for a pass ie move to create space.
He just looks uninterested imo.
Hasn't shown enough for the cost and we should've waited to see which division we ended up In, Before the outlay...
And that goes for all 3 although the other two do try harder if not really being that successful - possibly it will come?

gang

#31
Did you ever see Frank Large? Now there was a poor finisher.


itombomb

It's not just his finishing, it's also his other attacking contributions where he has no end product - he barely provides anything for the rest of the team as he's both selfish and not good at putting balls in. His stats for Brighton in the PL were actually shocking in hindsight - in 63 games over 2 years he scored 5 goals and had 6 assists.

He's nowhere near good enough for the PL, all hustle and bustle (which appeals to certain fans) and little productivity of consequence bar the odd pearler. 

I'd love to sell him to a Championship club as dumb as we were last season.

BDR may actually be a worse finisher, but he contributes other things with his movement and work off the ball.

Twig

Quote from: itombomb on September 16, 2020, 10:13:02 PM
It's not just his finishing, it's also his other attacking contributions where he has no end product - he barely provides anything for the rest of the team as he's both selfish and not good at putting balls in. His stats for Brighton in the PL were actually shocking in hindsight - in 63 games over 2 years he scored 5 goals and had 6 assists.

He's nowhere near good enough for the PL, all hustle and bustle (which appeals to certain fans) and little productivity of consequence bar the odd pearler. 

I'd love to sell him to a Championship club as dumb as we were last season.

BDR may actually be a worse finisher, but he contributes other things with his movement and work off the ball.

As does Knock with his tackling back.
Not defending him or BDR, neither are Prem quality, just trying to be fair.

Denzil Dexter

Quote from: fulhamben on September 16, 2020, 08:58:08 PM
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on September 16, 2020, 08:56:22 PM
If DC Reid & Knockaert have the cheek to ask why they aren't playing in the next few games they need their arses kicking!
In fact they need their arse's kicking anyway!
sad thing is, knockeart played really well, its just his end product
If he could keep his head down or stop leaning back when he shoots he'd be in double figures. Who's our attacking coach?  Ade Akinbiyi?

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FFCBadger

Switch him over to the left?

- Play him on the left, he puts in crosses for Mitro
- Play him on the right, he kicks the ball int the stands again

alfie

Quote from: fulhamben on September 16, 2020, 08:23:07 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on September 16, 2020, 08:20:50 PM
Cordova Reid has to be worse

Couldnt score in a brothel
yep and knockaert misses the target again
At least he had some shots, I remember Malcolm Macdonal saying always have a shot, if you miss you miss, but have a shot.
Story of my life
"I was looking back to see if she was looking back to see if i was looking back at her"
Sadly she wasn't

fulhamben

Quote from: alfie on September 17, 2020, 07:18:25 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 16, 2020, 08:23:07 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on September 16, 2020, 08:20:50 PM
Cordova Reid has to be worse

Couldnt score in a brothel
yep and knockaert misses the target again
At least he had some shots, I remember Malcolm Macdonal saying always have a shot, if you miss you miss, but have a shot.

yes, I'd imagine he would have expected the odd shot to go in, or at least hit the target on occasion
CHRIS MARTIN IS SO BAD,  WE NOW PRAISE HIM FOR MAKING A RUN.


The Old Count

Quote from: fulhamben on September 16, 2020, 07:37:26 PM
Is the worse finisher i think I've ever seen in a Fulham shirt.

He's Pele compared to some of the finishers we've had over the years.

fulhamben

Quote from: The Old Count on September 17, 2020, 08:15:49 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 16, 2020, 07:37:26 PM
Is the worse finisher i think I've ever seen in a Fulham shirt.

He's Pele compared to some of the finishers we've had over the years.
who, who has a worse shot to goal ratio than knockaert?
CHRIS MARTIN IS SO BAD,  WE NOW PRAISE HIM FOR MAKING A RUN.