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Goal disallowed??

Started by davew, March 04, 2021, 09:30:15 PM

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Fulham1959

Quote from: MisfitKid on March 04, 2021, 11:41:35 PM
I say we practice this defensive option: When they are pressured, just kick the ball into the offensive players arm and they can never score from it...

That would require a high level of accuracy !

andyk

Quote from: Fulham1959 on March 05, 2021, 10:00:54 AM
Quote from: MisfitKid on March 04, 2021, 11:41:35 PM
I say we practice this defensive option: When they are pressured, just kick the ball into the offensive players arm and they can never score from it...

That would require a high level of accuracy !

What about,

Kick the ball at your opponents arm, then lash the ball into your own net.

Willham

Quote from: grandad on March 05, 2021, 09:08:24 AM
Just watched replays of the "incident". The phase after Lemina had the ball hit at him ended as soon as Maja controlled the ball moved & then scored a super goal. Ref & the VAR prats should have seen this.

+1


Sting of the North

Quote from: MaidenheadMick on March 05, 2021, 09:14:34 AM
From the FA website:
The current handball laws deem any deliberate touch with the hand or arm should be penalised while accidental contact could also lead to an infraction if "the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger" or "the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm."

None of the above apply to Lemina. Shocking decision

Unfortunately doesn't apply to situations leading to a goal/goal scoring opportunity. In those cases it is a handball if the ball hits the arm in whatever way.

andyk

Quote from: Sting of the North on March 05, 2021, 06:02:06 PM
Quote from: MaidenheadMick on March 05, 2021, 09:14:34 AM
From the FA website:
The current handball laws deem any deliberate touch with the hand or arm should be penalised while accidental contact could also lead to an infraction if "the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger" or "the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm."

None of the above apply to Lemina. Shocking decision

Unfortunately doesn't apply to situations leading to a goal/goal scoring opportunity. In those cases it is a handball if the ball hits the arm in whatever way.
It wasn't a goal scoring opportunity.
Maja still had two defenders and a goalkeeper in front of him.
He created the goal scoring opportunity with his skill, control and speed of thought.


RaySmith

That decision was a travesty, and could be so  crucial for us.
But noone will be held responsible, and will get away with it.


bog

Quote from: RaySmith on March 20, 2021, 05:59:28 AM
That decision was a travesty, and could be so  crucial for us.
But noone will be held responsible, and will get away with it.

Like Wilson diving up at Newcastle, Andersen sent off, they equalise with the pen and sneak a point but the sending off is rescinded the following week. Why didn't they spot this dive on the VAR at the time?  :031:

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sarnian

Quote from: bog on March 20, 2021, 09:03:12 AM
Quote from: RaySmith on March 20, 2021, 05:59:28 AM
That decision was a travesty, and could be so  crucial for us.
But noone will be held responsible, and will get away with it.

Like Wilson diving up at Newcastle, Andersen sent off, they equalise with the pen and sneak a point but the sending off is rescinded the following week. Why didn't they spot this dive on the VAR at the time?  :031:

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If the VAR and referee had done their job properly Andersen would have been sent off for a second yellow card but crucially it would have been a free kick and not a penalty. Andersen would then have missed the draw against Southampton serving a one game suspension.

Black and White Blood

This topic has been done to death.
Stupid rule, probably sounded ok on paper
but ridiculous in actual play.
The ref saw nothing wrong neither did the Spurs players.
VAR is ruining the game, let's just hope it works in our favour more times than not.


bog

Quote from: sarnian on March 20, 2021, 09:46:41 AM
Quote from: bog on March 20, 2021, 09:03:12 AM
Quote from: RaySmith on March 20, 2021, 05:59:28 AM
That decision was a travesty, and could be so  crucial for us.
But noone will be held responsible, and will get away with it.

Like Wilson diving up at Newcastle, Andersen sent off, they equalise with the pen and sneak a point but the sending off is rescinded the following week. Why didn't they spot this dive on the VAR at the time?  :031:

092.gif   

If the VAR and referee had done their job properly Andersen would have been sent off for a second yellow card but crucially it would have been a free kick and not a penalty. Andersen would then have missed the draw against Southampton serving a one game suspension.

I don't agree. If the sending off was rescinded thenit was not a bookng.   

sarnian

Quote from: bog on March 20, 2021, 11:47:59 AM
Quote from: sarnian on March 20, 2021, 09:46:41 AM
Quote from: bog on March 20, 2021, 09:03:12 AM
Quote from: RaySmith on March 20, 2021, 05:59:28 AM
That decision was a travesty, and could be so  crucial for us.
But noone will be held responsible, and will get away with it.

Like Wilson diving up at Newcastle, Andersen sent off, they equalise with the pen and sneak a point but the sending off is rescinded the following week. Why didn't they spot this dive on the VAR at the time?  :031:

092.gif   

If the VAR and referee had done their job properly Andersen would have been sent off for a second yellow card but crucially it would have been a free kick and not a penalty. Andersen would then have missed the draw against Southampton serving a one game suspension.

I don't agree. If the sending off was rescinded thenit was not a bookng.   

Incorrect. It was a foul and a yellow card which being his second booking should have been followed by a red card. The ref incorrectly produced a straight red card which was then overturned by the review panel. The panel only have the power to overturn red cards, they cannot substitute that red card for a yellow.