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Cairney?

Started by Blawarmy, April 05, 2021, 12:38:08 PM

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filham

Cairney has been a class player for us over recent years and would be a useful option to have available in this long goal drought
From what we know it looks unlikely that we are going to see him playing again this season  and we have no doubt seen the best of him if not the last of him.

Not much good news about at the moment.

Dodger53

Tom said in an interview a few weeks ago that what he really would like is a mid table season without the pressure of promotion or relegation. There's ambition for you!

blingo

Quote from: perry geyton on April 05, 2021, 05:04:53 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 05, 2021, 01:11:42 PM
Unfortunately he is not quite premiership quality
Ok but RLC is right ?
Comical


Whether or not RLC is prem quality or not has nothing to do with TC . You really need to lose your mistaken obsession with TC.


HV71

Harrison and Zambo are capable of giving Tom the space to create

simplyfulham

Quote from: blingo on April 06, 2021, 06:50:31 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on April 05, 2021, 05:04:53 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 05, 2021, 01:11:42 PM
Unfortunately he is not quite premiership quality
Ok but RLC is right ?
Comical


Whether or not RLC is prem quality or not has nothing to do with TC . You really need to lose your mistaken obsession with TC.

Whether or not perry geyton is obsessed with TC or not has nothing to do with TC being prem quality. You really need to lose your mistaken obsession with TC's ability.

Twig

Quote from: bobby01 on April 06, 2021, 03:29:42 PM
The Cairney being described here is the one who Slav surrounded with players to enable him to play. Stefjo and Kmac did the dirty work for him, Fredericks and Ayite used to make loads of room for him. If he has time and is not pressured he can find a pass, but we are no longer set up to give him the time he needs, he does not make space for himself, and the vast majority of his passes are sideways or backwards. I truly believe that his only good time was under Slav because we were set up for him to shine, that is no longer the case.

With due respect this is nonsense. Are you really suggesting that our current crop of midfielders are weaker than KMac, StefJo, Ayite and Fred? As to "the vast majority of his passes are sideways and backwards", well I can only wonder whether you ever checked his stats?


blingo

Quote from: simplyfulham on April 06, 2021, 07:18:30 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 06, 2021, 06:50:31 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on April 05, 2021, 05:04:53 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 05, 2021, 01:11:42 PM
Unfortunately he is not quite premiership quality
Ok but RLC is right ?
Comical


Whether or not RLC is prem quality or not has nothing to do with TC . You really need to lose your mistaken obsession with TC.

Whether or not perry geyton is obsessed with TC or not has nothing to do with TC being prem quality. You really need to lose your mistaken obsession with TC's ability.

So where exactly have his talents shone through in the premiership?

Simply91

Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.

Cairney is a fantastic footballer and is arguably the biggest club legend we've had in the last 4-5 years.

blingo

Quote from: Simply91 on April 06, 2021, 10:37:36 PM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.

Cairney is a fantastic footballer and is arguably the biggest club legend we've had in the last 4-5 years.


He certainly doesn't fit legend status


simplyfulham

Quote from: blingo on April 06, 2021, 11:09:20 PM
Quote from: Simply91 on April 06, 2021, 10:37:36 PM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.

Cairney is a fantastic footballer and is arguably the biggest club legend we've had in the last 4-5 years.


He certainly doesn't fit legend status

I think you'll find that most fans would consider him to be the greatest legend the club has ever known.

blingo

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Quote from: simplyfulham on April 07, 2021, 12:12:54 AM
Quote from: blingo on April 06, 2021, 11:09:20 PM
Quote from: Simply91 on April 06, 2021, 10:37:36 PM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.

Cairney is a fantastic footballer and is arguably the biggest club legend we've had in the last 4-5 years.


He certainly doesn't fit legend status

I think you'll find that most fans would consider him to be the greatest legend the club has ever known.


Either you are a WUM or you are totally deluded. He can't hold a candle to the likes of Haynes, Cohen, Malbranque, Saha, Dempsey, Mc Bride, Dembele, and a whole host of others

perry geyton

Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.
Absolutely but they've all got their blinkers on for the RLC love club,,,,


perry geyton

Quote from: blingo on April 06, 2021, 11:09:20 PM
Quote from: Simply91 on April 06, 2021, 10:37:36 PM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.

Cairney is a fantastic footballer and is arguably the biggest club legend we've had in the last 4-5 years.


He certainly doesn't fit legend status

Quote from: perry geyton on April 07, 2021, 05:27:16 AM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.
Absolutely but they've all got their blinkers on for the RLC love club,,,,
Quote from: perry geyton on April 07, 2021, 05:27:16 AM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.
Absolutely but they've all got their blinkers on for the RLC love club,,,,
Quote from: blingo on April 07, 2021, 12:16:30 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 07, 2021, 12:12:54 AM
Quote from: blingo on April 06, 2021, 11:09:20 PM
Quote from: Simply91 on April 06, 2021, 10:37:36 PM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.

Cairney is a fantastic footballer and is arguably the biggest club legend we've had in the last 4-5 years.


He certainly doesn't fit legend status

I think you'll find that most fans would consider him to be the greatest legend the club has ever known.


Either you are a WUM or you are totally deluded. He can't hold a candle to the likes of Haynes, Cohen, Malbranque, Saha, Dempsey, Mc Bride, Dembele, and a whole host of others
Absolutely on par with Dembele, similar type of player and Cairneys far more effective regarding scoring goals 



blingo

Quote from: perry geyton on April 07, 2021, 05:37:05 AM
Quote from: blingo on April 06, 2021, 11:09:20 PM
Quote from: Simply91 on April 06, 2021, 10:37:36 PM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.

Cairney is a fantastic footballer and is arguably the biggest club legend we've had in the last 4-5 years.


He certainly doesn't fit legend status

Quote from: perry geyton on April 07, 2021, 05:27:16 AM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.
Absolutely but they've all got their blinkers on for the RLC love club,,,,
Quote from: perry geyton on April 07, 2021, 05:27:16 AM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.
Absolutely but they've all got their blinkers on for the RLC love club,,,,
Quote from: blingo on April 07, 2021, 12:16:30 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 07, 2021, 12:12:54 AM
Quote from: blingo on April 06, 2021, 11:09:20 PM
Quote from: Simply91 on April 06, 2021, 10:37:36 PM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.

Cairney is a fantastic footballer and is arguably the biggest club legend we've had in the last 4-5 years.


He certainly doesn't fit legend status

I think you'll find that most fans would consider him to be the greatest legend the club has ever known.


Either you are a WUM or you are totally deluded. He can't hold a candle to the likes of Haynes, Cohen, Malbranque, Saha, Dempsey, Mc Bride, Dembele, and a whole host of others
Absolutely on par with Dembele, similar type of player and Cairneys far more effective regarding scoring goals 





Sorry to burst your bubble, but he's not fit to lace Dembeles boots

Twig

Quote from: blingo on April 07, 2021, 09:02:30 AM
Quote from: perry geyton on April 07, 2021, 05:37:05 AM
Quote from: blingo on April 06, 2021, 11:09:20 PM
Quote from: Simply91 on April 06, 2021, 10:37:36 PM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.

Cairney is a fantastic footballer and is arguably the biggest club legend we've had in the last 4-5 years.


He certainly doesn't fit legend status

Quote from: perry geyton on April 07, 2021, 05:27:16 AM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.
Absolutely but they've all got their blinkers on for the RLC love club,,,,
Quote from: perry geyton on April 07, 2021, 05:27:16 AM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.
Absolutely but they've all got their blinkers on for the RLC love club,,,,
Quote from: blingo on April 07, 2021, 12:16:30 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 07, 2021, 12:12:54 AM
Quote from: blingo on April 06, 2021, 11:09:20 PM
Quote from: Simply91 on April 06, 2021, 10:37:36 PM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.

Cairney is a fantastic footballer and is arguably the biggest club legend we've had in the last 4-5 years.


He certainly doesn't fit legend status

I think you'll find that most fans would consider him to be the greatest legend the club has ever known.


Either you are a WUM or you are totally deluded. He can't hold a candle to the likes of Haynes, Cohen, Malbranque, Saha, Dempsey, Mc Bride, Dembele, and a whole host of others
Absolutely on par with Dembele, similar type of player and Cairneys far more effective regarding scoring goals 





Sorry to burst your bubble, but he's not fit to lace Dembeles boots

Blingo, I realise you will never agree with the majority who regard TC highly. However what I don't understand is why you can't simply enjoy the fact that this is something positive for most of us.  Understandably there is so much negativity on this forum right now, so when there is something or someone that brings a bit of positivity surely even you can appreciate that is better than endless gloom?  In that context can you not see that comments like "not fit to lace Dembele's boots" are just crass?


Dodgin

Tom Cairney you can compare with our great midfielders and say he is not up that standard but I think you don't realise what is missing, until he is not there.

blingo

Quote from: Twig on April 07, 2021, 09:17:15 AM
Quote from: blingo on April 07, 2021, 09:02:30 AM
Quote from: perry geyton on April 07, 2021, 05:37:05 AM
Quote from: blingo on April 06, 2021, 11:09:20 PM
Quote from: Simply91 on April 06, 2021, 10:37:36 PM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.

Cairney is a fantastic footballer and is arguably the biggest club legend we've had in the last 4-5 years.


He certainly doesn't fit legend status

Quote from: perry geyton on April 07, 2021, 05:27:16 AM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.
Absolutely but they've all got their blinkers on for the RLC love club,,,,
Quote from: perry geyton on April 07, 2021, 05:27:16 AM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.
Absolutely but they've all got their blinkers on for the RLC love club,,,,
Quote from: blingo on April 07, 2021, 12:16:30 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 07, 2021, 12:12:54 AM
Quote from: blingo on April 06, 2021, 11:09:20 PM
Quote from: Simply91 on April 06, 2021, 10:37:36 PM
Quote from: Black and White Blood on April 06, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Glad to see some support for Tom Cairney
A quality player, stronger than people think,
How we need him now.

Cairney is a fantastic footballer and is arguably the biggest club legend we've had in the last 4-5 years.


He certainly doesn't fit legend status

I think you'll find that most fans would consider him to be the greatest legend the club has ever known.


Either you are a WUM or you are totally deluded. He can't hold a candle to the likes of Haynes, Cohen, Malbranque, Saha, Dempsey, Mc Bride, Dembele, and a whole host of others
Absolutely on par with Dembele, similar type of player and Cairneys far more effective regarding scoring goals 





Sorry to burst your bubble, but he's not fit to lace Dembeles boots

Blingo, I realise you will never agree with the majority who regard TC highly. However what I don't understand is why you can't simply enjoy the fact that this is something positive for most of us.  Understandably there is so much negativity on this forum right now, so when there is something or someone that brings a bit of positivity surely even you can appreciate that is better than endless gloom?  In that context can you not see that comments like "not fit to lace Dembele's boots" are just crass?

Mr Twig, Dembele is quite probably one of the best if not the best midfielder ever to pull on a Fulham shirt and has proved himself at premiership level, whereas TC has not. I have absolutely nothing against TC, but, to claim he is a "legend" is nowhere near correct. He's performed and well at championship level, but what has he achieved apart from that? Truth is not much. I'd love to see him come onto the pitch and prove me completely wrong, but I don't think he is quite up to prem level.

simplyfulham

Quote from: blingo on April 07, 2021, 04:33:40 PM

I have absolutely nothing against TC . . . ​but what has he achieved apart from that? Truth is not much.


How could I have forgot about the countless trophies and accolades Dembele won as a player for Fulham..  or for that matter anyone else.

I wonder if that Football League Cup runner up 14/15 medal has pride of place in the Dembele household?


blingo

Quote from: simplyfulham on April 07, 2021, 04:48:44 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 07, 2021, 04:33:40 PM

I have absolutely nothing against TC . . . ​but what has he achieved apart from that? Truth is not much.


How could I have forgot about the countless trophies and accolades Dembele won as a player for Fulham..  or for that matter anyone else.

I wonder if that Football League Cup runner up 14/15 medal has pride of place in the Dembele household?


Moussa Sidi Yaya Dembélé (born 16 July 1987) is a Belgian professional footballer who plays as a central midfielder for Chinese Super League club Guangzhou City and the Belgium national team, for whom he has achieved 82 caps. He was regarded as one of the best box-to-box midfielders in Europe due to his excellent dribbling skills and ability to maintain possession.[4][5][6]

Dembélé started his career at Belgian Pro League team Germinal Beerschot before spells at Eredivisie sides Willem II and AZ in the Netherlands. He won the league title and the Johan Cruyff Shield with the latter in 2009. Dembélé transferred to Premier League side Fulham in 2010 before joining Tottenham for a fee of £15 million in August 2012. He was ranked 91st in The Guardian's list of the 100 best current footballers in 2012

I think that tells you everything you need to know Mr Simply.

simplyfulham

Quote from: blingo on April 07, 2021, 04:52:49 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 07, 2021, 04:48:44 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 07, 2021, 04:33:40 PM

I have absolutely nothing against TC . . . ​but what has he achieved apart from that? Truth is not much.


How could I have forgot about the countless trophies and accolades Dembele won as a player for Fulham..  or for that matter anyone else.

I wonder if that Football League Cup runner up 14/15 medal has pride of place in the Dembele household?


Moussa Sidi Yaya Dembélé (born 16 July 1987) is a Belgian professional footballer who plays as a central midfielder for Chinese Super League club Guangzhou City and the Belgium national team, for whom he has achieved 82 caps. He was regarded as one of the best box-to-box midfielders in Europe due to his excellent dribbling skills and ability to maintain possession.[4][5][6]

Dembélé started his career at Belgian Pro League team Germinal Beerschot before spells at Eredivisie sides Willem II and AZ in the Netherlands. He won the league title and the Johan Cruyff Shield with the latter in 2009. Dembélé transferred to Premier League side Fulham in 2010 before joining Tottenham for a fee of £15 million in August 2012. He was ranked 91st in The Guardian's list of the 100 best current footballers in 2012

I think that tells you everything you need to know Mr Simply.

You are most welcome monsieur Blingo.