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Someone's got to say it, Harry Wilson is looking for an oscar.

Started by Donnie Lonegan, March 08, 2022, 10:07:51 PM

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Donnie Lonegan

Harry Wilson has been great for us, I love watching him play, but I have to be honest, I don't like the way he goes to ground whenever he get fouled.
You just know what's going to happen, he'll be laying on the floor with his face in his hands waiting to see if the decision goes his way.
It's not something I like to see, neither it seems do both the commentators on Fulham tv who agree that he's getting a reputation as a diver.
I was reading the Blackburn Rovers forum the other day, and they just seemed to think we're a load of diving cheats.

FulhamKC

Agree in general, but I don't think he was faking on the foul that led to the red card.

Lordedmundo

Quote from: FulhamKC on March 08, 2022, 10:10:43 PM
Agree in general, but I don't think he was faking on the foul that led to the red card.

It was a red, but Harry's roll across the pitch was a bit embarrassing! Almost as bad as this one:

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12456606/he-almost-rolled-down-the-tunnel


cmg

 A player seeking to gain an advantage by exaggerating the effects of a foul challenge? Disgraceful. Never seen the like before.

Mind you I have been living in a yurt in the Gobi Desert for the past 20 years.

cookieg

Quote from: cmg on March 08, 2022, 10:22:20 PM
A player seeking to gain an advantage by exaggerating the effects of a foul challenge? Disgraceful. Never seen the like before.

Mind you I have been living in a yurt in the Gobi Desert for the past 20 years.

You've got bloody good Wi-Fi.

ffcthereligion

Carvalho the worst for it, he's ready for the premier league next year 


Deeping_white

The problem is though that refs judge bad tackles sometimes on the reaction of the players, something we've clearly learned at PL level. If he'd just jumped up and hobbled off, the guy would've probs got a yellow for what was a minging and needless tackle

Hatch007

Quote from: cookieg on March 08, 2022, 10:32:47 PM
Quote from: cmg on March 08, 2022, 10:22:20 PM
A player seeking to gain an advantage by exaggerating the effects of a foul challenge? Disgraceful. Never seen the like before.

Mind you I have been living in a yurt in the Gobi Desert for the past 20 years.

You've got bloody good Wi-Fi.
👏🤣

cmg

Quote from: cookieg on March 08, 2022, 10:32:47 PM
Quote from: cmg on March 08, 2022, 10:22:20 PM
A player seeking to gain an advantage by exaggerating the effects of a foul challenge? Disgraceful. Never seen the like before.

Mind you I have been living in a yurt in the Gobi Desert for the past 20 years.

You've got bloody good Wi-Fi.

You leave her out of it.


Lighthouse

Sadly it is just part of the game now. Players from all teams now do the exaggerated falls and rolls. But having seen the tackle a few times I think the sending off seems correct. The tackle was reckless and late and looks worse on replays.

Shame as it changed the game and Swansea then decided to keep on trying to play the ball out even when under pressure which frankly when down to ten men was silly.

But yeah I think the sending off was a correct decision. However like fouls from corners, play acting happens every time. 
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rebel

I was going to start a thread a couple of weeks ago, it's the sort of thing that is going to backfire, we won't get decisions that we should. 'It's ridiculous'. 

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filham

Quote from: rebel on March 09, 2022, 11:20:44 AM
I was going to start a thread a couple of weeks ago, it's the sort of thing that is going to backfire, we won't get decisions that we should. 'It's ridiculous'. 
I have felt that Wilson was taking a few dives that were out of order. Make no mistake we take a lot of very rough tackles from opponents, Mitro is a target from the start of every game, opponents are trying to wind him up in the hope of a response that is bookable.

However we must not develop this diving habit, I think refs will get wise to us and it could act against us. It really is unsporting and not the sort of thing we want at the Cottage.

sarnian

Correct sending off decision that will be backed up when Swansea's appeal gets dismissed.

Somerset Fulham

Quote from: rebel on March 09, 2022, 11:20:44 AM
I was going to start a thread a couple of weeks ago, it's the sort of thing that is going to backfire, we won't get decisions that we should. 'It's ridiculous'.

Me too, I've mentioned it a few times on the matchday threads already.  It's not just Wilson either and it's a bad rep to get.

Last night's red was correct though.


Fulham 442

Quote from: Somerset Fulham on March 09, 2022, 12:05:57 PM
Quote from: rebel on March 09, 2022, 11:20:44 AM
I was going to start a thread a couple of weeks ago, it's the sort of thing that is going to backfire, we won't get decisions that we should. 'It's ridiculous'.

Me too, I've mentioned it a few times on the matchday threads already.  It's not just Wilson either and it's a bad rep to get.

Last night's red was correct though.
Yep Mitro and Carvalho are also guilty...As has been said it could come back to bite us..I agree about the red though.

Jim©

Don't know if any of you have had a tackle, studs up at full pelt on the ankle? I've still got scars on mine from exactly that 25 years ago when playing. Anyone claiming he rolled around a bit too much hasn't been hurt like that. If his foot was planted in the ground, he'd have a broken ankle and be out for months.

blingo

Nothing like a good moan when there's nothing else to moan about lol.


Motspur Park

Hate the theatrics with a passion but a players are never rewarded for honesty. A foul is a foul regardless of whether a player is put out of action but why are penalties never given if the attacker stays on his feet? Ditto almost everywhere else in the attacking half of the pitch. Only rarely does dangerous play get punished when no contact is made but this is mostly in favour of defenders. An attacker that doesn't go down after a defender makes contact doesn't win a penalty. That's just the eay it is.

The fact is that most other teams are at it all game so if our players don't do it, we as a team are at a disadvantage. So, whilst I still hate theatrics, I hate it even more when we are naive and lose out to teams that play the system.

davew

Wilson is theatrical at times but no doubt the foul on him deserved a red card and really turned the game, If it hadn't been for that I think we would have had to work hard to secure a draw. It is interesting that the number of assists are recorded, but why not claims for penalties, Mitro would be leading the table by more than the number of goals scored over his next challenger. I am very surprised he doesn't get booked more for his play acting in the penalty area, but I am more than happy about the goals he has scored for us. If he can do 1/2 as well next season we might stay up in the PL.
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