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Someone's got to say it, Harry Wilson is looking for an oscar.

Started by Donnie Lonegan, March 08, 2022, 10:07:51 PM

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FFCFOREVER

Tbh Mitro falls over alot more than Wilson, especially for a big fella. It is a bit embarassing but I suppose thats the modern game now.

I Ronic

As a fan I can understand where my fellow posters on this thread are coming from. We believe our players are hard working honest pro's who don't lie or cheat and play the beauiful game as it's meant to be played.  Officials make the right decisions and good triumphs over evil.
However if you or I were pro's at the sharp end we'd see it entirely differently. Our efforts and skills wheren't appreciated by the boss, fans or the ref. So to help them understand "i'm working my bollocks off", I'm going to lay on the floor in agony, chase the ref half way up the pitch or give the thicko defender a dig.
It's not new, in the past you could deck your opponent then have a mass bundle and the ref would give a foul and we'd all carry on,
Cricket, Rugby and a host of other sports have managed to get the rules (of their sports) up to speed, with the improved physicality  of their sports. Football hasn't. Hence the need for players to add theirs.
For me, at this moment in time, watching this team. With it's mix of hard work (Ream, Read, Kebano, to name but three) and the silky skills of (Cav, Wilson and Seri) carrying us towards Champions of the Championship is just brilliant. I've not mentioned several players, a raft of backroom staff and Khan's Snr and Junior out of this but they're just as important. I wish Berbatov, Clint. Pantsil, Roy, Slavisa and a few overs were young enough to be part of this as well. because this season is and has been brilliant.

RaySmith

Quote from: I Ronic on March 10, 2022, 12:20:08 AM
As a fan I can understand where my fellow posters on this thread are coming from. We believe our players are hard working honest pro's who don't lie or cheat and play the beauiful game as it's meant to be played.  Officials make the right decisions and good triumphs over evil.
However if you or I were pro's at the sharp end we'd see it entirely differently. Our efforts and skills wheren't appreciated by the boss, fans or the ref. So to help them understand "i'm working my bollocks off", I'm going to lay on the floor in agony, chase the ref half way up the pitch or give the thicko defender a dig.
It's not new, in the past you could deck your opponent then have a mass bundle and the ref would give a foul and we'd all carry on,
Cricket, Rugby and a host of other sports have managed to get the rules (of their sports) up to speed, with the improved physicality  of their sports. Football hasn't. Hence the need for players to add theirs.
For me, at this moment in time, watching this team. With it's mix of hard work (Ream, Read, Kebano, to name but three) and the silky skills of (Cav, Wilson and Seri) carrying us towards Champions of the Championship is just brilliant. I've not mentioned several players, a raft of backroom staff and Khan's Snr and Junior out of this but they're just as important. I wish Berbatov, Clint. Pantsil, Roy, Slavisa and a few overs were young enough to be part of this as well. because this season is and has been brilliant.


Good points Ironic.
I think our skilful players often feel they have to go down to get the protection they need - but doesn't mean a foul hasn't been committed.

But how often in games do we cry 'come on ref, that was blatant'- when  no foul is given on one of our skilful players, when it looks obvious.
But there is no reason to think our players  are saints in this respect, and getting  free kicks is seen as part of the  pro game to some extent these days.

The game is very fast, and refs do miss a lot of things, while also giving fouls for minimal contact - they are human too, and a lot of these decisions are subjective.
Also, this season refs have had directives to keep the game moving, and this leads to criticism of refs letting too many things go.

But we do seem to have had some awful refs this season - though their's isn't an easy job.