silva to blame

[MartyFFC]

Fatigue, the opposition raising their game, 3 away games in 8 days, collectively players showing they're human and having an off-day, of course not it has to be the manager's fault. Embarrassing stuff

[Twig]

I'm guessing that another loss and you guys will be calling for Silva to be replaced as the useless manager who only managed to keep an 11 point lead at the top of the table and turned the team around from Parker ball to the best team in the championship by a country mile. Absolutely incredible.

Jeepers - what a lot of doom-mongering!  We've been privileged to watch a host of wonderfully entertaining football under Marco Silva's tutelage this season and now that we've hit a lumpy patch he's a target man.  Only the management know how fit or otherwise players are; only they see the training sessions; only they are aware of players' readiness to play and capability of pursuing particular tactics.

Absolutely ridiculous reaction from so many to a 1-0 loss, at least the two above have some realism.

Nobody is saying anything other than that they totally support Silva and that he's the best manager we've had in years. Nothing realistic in a post suggesting that people will be calling for Silva to be replaced or one that waffles on about "players' readiness to play and capability of pursuing particular tactics".

Unless I've missed it there is no rule that says Silva's tactics or team selections are beyond question?  All of our players are critiqued from time to time so the Manager should be no different.  On this occasion some questions and criticisms have been raised, surely that's fair enough?  As to doom-mongering.........where?

[Arthur]

What I would question is the assumption that had Seri or Cairney (or both) started the game our performance would have been so much better. On Saturday, Seri played the first half and Cairney the second against a Barnsley team that didn't have as much about them as did West Brom last night, and we looked out of sorts for much of the time at Oakwell.

At Cardiff, a couple of weeks ago, moreover, Chalobah took Seri's place in the starting XI. Neither the team as a whole nor Chalobah, himself, were impressive that day but we won anyway. If those who have disagreed with Silva for picking Chalobah ahead of Seri and Cairney last night can point to a similar post of theirs after our victory in Wales, I shall tip my hat to you and say 'Fair enough'.

If not, recognising that Chalobah didn't make an impact against West Brom without blaming Silva or implying he ought to have known better seems fairer to me.

[ALG01]

What I would question is the assumption that had Seri or Cairney (or both) started the game our performance would have been so much better. On Saturday, Seri played the first half and Cairney the second against a Barnsley team that didn't have as much about them as did West Brom last night, and we looked out of sorts for much of the time at Oakwell.

At Cardiff, a couple of weeks ago, moreover, Chalobah took Seri's place in the starting XI. Neither the team as a whole nor Chalobah, himself, were impressive that day but we won anyway. If those who have disagreed with Silva for picking Chalobah ahead of Seri and Cairney last night can point to a similar post of theirs after our victory in Wales, I shall tip my hat to you and say 'Fair enough'.

If not, recognising that Chalobah didn't make an impact against West Brom without blaming Silva or implying he ought to have known better seems fairer to me.

The assumption was that either seri or cairney should have started because they are playmakers and the team would have had better balance and not invited wba to attack us so relentlessly. as it was they only scored one from a ridiculous error from the LB (who by they way I do not think is good enough anyway) BUT we had not creativity and what has been so impressive this season is our adventure, so why change it?

If seri or tom had started we might have been worse, but the team selection would have been better and given us a better chance.

regarding cardiff and swansea, i was critical of both those performances despite the fact we won and many people just turned on me. Whethger And against barnsley, seri was very poor but once tom came on we looked a very doifferent outfit and that must have been clear to see, even for you. I said it on this forum or another on social media I can't recall because I am less inclined to use FoF this season.

[toshes mate]

The number of things that happened on Tuesday night, not just at the high altitude of the Hawthorns, but at the lower levels elsewhere were determined by whatever an individual chooses to believe in.  The most wonderful striker in a league scored just to prove how right the coach was to pick him.  The most inconsistent coach elsewhere managed to get a result because his opposite number on the night just wasn't thinking straight when he selected the wrong mix of midfielders.  We can all claim to be right after the event but not many of us would own up to the many, many times we get things wrong.  I would make a hopeless coach because I would not be able to concentrate on the job in hand 24/7/365 which is why I stick to the things I can do well to earn my income.

I didn't see anything wrong with us on Tuesday night at the Hawthorns other than a disjointed first half, followed by a very slight improvement after the break.  Who was at fault?  How about the whole team just didn't do what they were supposed to do, which, I would guess from Silva's POV, was not to concede during the whole game and rely on fast breaks to score when our opponents anxiety got the better of them.  Instead we looked the more anxious team throughout.

[jeremyfulham]

Jeepers - what a lot of doom-mongering!  We've been privileged to watch a host of wonderfully entertaining football under Marco Silva's tutelage this season and now that we've hit a lumpy patch he's a target man.  Only the management know how fit or otherwise players are; only they see the training sessions; only they are aware of players' readiness to play and capability of pursuing particular tactics.

+1 Spot on

[blingo]

The number of things that happened on Tuesday night, not just at the high altitude of the Hawthorns, but at the lower levels elsewhere were determined by whatever an individual chooses to believe in.  The most wonderful striker in a league scored just to prove how right the coach was to pick him.  The most inconsistent coach elsewhere managed to get a result because his opposite number on the night just wasn't thinking straight when he selected the wrong mix of midfielders.  We can all claim to be right after the event but not many of us would own up to the many, many times we get things wrong.  I would make a hopeless coach because I would not be able to concentrate on the job in hand 24/7/365 which is why I stick to the things I can do well to earn my income.

I didn't see anything wrong with us on Tuesday night at the Hawthorns other than a disjointed first half, followed by a very slight improvement after the break.  Who was at fault?  How about the whole team just didn't do what they were supposed to do, which, I would guess from Silva's POV, was not to concede during the whole game and rely on fast breaks to score when our opponents anxiety got the better of them.  Instead we looked the more anxious team throughout.

We all have off days Mr Tosh, and if anyone complaining on here can hold up his or her hand and honestly say they get it right every time they do something, i'll show you a liar. We got it wrong on the night, yes. Silva was fuming, yes. It's over, we are still ELEVEN points clear at the top with a better goal difference than any team in any league. What is it that people on here want? If we could achieve everything that some on here complain about we would be sitting one place above Man City, and I am sure that they would STILL find something to complain about. Let's enjoy the success we are having this season and praise both the team and Silva for what we are achieving, which I for one am gloating about.

[humussapiens]

But the OP discuss one game here and you discuss the whole season. These are different things.

It's easy to agree on the great FFC season and it was already said. But it should be allowed to discuss an individual games that are not all perfect. 

[blingo]

But the OP discuss one game here and you discuss the whole season. These are different things.

It's easy to agree on the great FFC season and it was already said. But it should be allowed to discuss an individual games that are not all perfect. 

Of course it's allowed to discuss individual games, it's a discussion board after all Mr Hummus.

[Bill2]

Fatigue, the opposition raising their game, 3 away games in 8 days, collectively players showing they're human and having an off-day, of course not it has to be the manager's fault. Embarrassing stuff

If you go back to the last home match it was 4 games in 10/11 days so let's cut the boys a bit of slack. Can you imagine what have been said had this been Liverpool, Man City or Man Utd. They would have all been whinging like mad. We now have 2 + weeks off so they will be back all fired up to go for the title.

[fulhamfever]

I ain't even bothered TBH we are that far in front the boys can relax they did the hard work early in the season. Furthermore, we are 9 points mathematically away from Promotion. Huddersfield won't win their remaining 9 games that's for sure. Bournemouth as well are not capitalising even they throwing away leads left, right and centre. As long as we finish 1st and score 100 goals I am please. If Mitro gets to 40 goals be even more made up.

[Texas White]

Yes the formation and selection needs to be changed.

[Grassy Noel]

Jeepers - what a lot of doom-mongering!  We've been privileged to watch a host of wonderfully entertaining football under Marco Silva's tutelage this season and now that we've hit a lumpy patch he's a target man.  Only the management know how fit or otherwise players are; only they see the training sessions; only they are aware of players' readiness to play and capability of pursuing particular tactics.

I totally agree that only the management can judge fitness and readiness to play. However every time I see Muniz come onto the pitch after 75 minutes looking robust ,fit, skillful and with a willingness to take the game to the opposition I have to ask myself 'does this ability only exist for 15 minutes plus injury time?'

[toshes mate]

But the OP discuss one game here and you discuss the whole season. These are different things.

It's easy to agree on the great FFC season and it was already said. But it should be allowed to discuss an individual games that are not all perfect. 

A whole season is made up of 46 games and so discussion about individual games has to take account of all games played.  Indeed ALG01 to his credit mentions that in the OP and expands that argument in his later comment about games where we got a result but he didn't think the team played as well as he want them to.   

My personal take is that I don't know what went wrong on Tuesday other than a number of our attacks broke down resulting in losses of possession.  That has happened in every game I have ever watched since I started watching football.   Is Silva infallible?  Of course he isn't, but he has produced a wonderful season for us thus far.  Long may it continue but can one individual ever iron out the blips that also come with the good stuff?