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Sick Note : The Club Needs to Stop signing players who aren't

Started by rebel, May 10, 2022, 09:14:26 AM

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rebel

fully fit from day 1. It's getting 'ridiculous'. We think it's a 'bargain' at the time, but in reality it's 'disastrous'. It's a Fulham 'trait.
It defeats the whole object of having a medical.

Mawson, Kongolo etc.

filham

Agree and there is certainly not going to be room in any premier team line up for any player who is not 100% fit.
I begin to worry whether Cairney is going to see a lot of game time.

rebel

Quote from: filham on May 10, 2022, 09:58:43 AM
Agree and there is certainly not going to be room in any premier team line up for any player who is not 100% fit.
I begin to worry whether Cairney is going to see a lot of game time.

Remember when we signed a injured Kostas Mitroglou, when we could have bought a fit Antoine Griezmann, that cost us our Premiership status.


FacundoSavasfacemask


FFC1987

Quote from: FacundoSavasfacemask on May 10, 2022, 10:51:31 AM
But people are calling for Joe Gomez to be signed  :023:

He started the last match.....I think people mean players are actually injured when we sign them as opposed to slightly injury prone?

Whitestone

Joe Gomez would be a gamble, given his injury history. Good player though, but so was Mawson.


toshes mate

I guess being in charge of recruitment isn't an easy job, especially if it isn't considered a full time occupation. 

If you spend wisely and capture a bargain then you effectively improve money available.  If you make mistakes then they'll haunt you long after the deeds are done and you end up with the massive headache of just how you can balance the books. You also need to communicate constantly with those who have a vested interest in your successes and failures, those who do the hard work of gaining admission to the thriving recruitment networks, and those who will give you the low down on which signings to avoid like the plague.  All of this is full time work most of which seems counter productive until it nails the proverbial bargain buy or captures a much sought after signing or stops you signing a complete No-No discovered by some other recruitment failure but not you. 

The window is where the fruits, good or bad, of this labour of love should become obvious to rest of us.   And the window should seldom be focused on last day signings but should not exclude those moments as the clock counts down when special things may or may not happen.   In other words even the full time job cannot cater for every eventuality.

Signing players who haven't (or cannot be) tested for full fitness are always high risk and even a medical professional cannot be absolutely sure - ever.   Like most professionals they are there to minimise risk and that comes back to the full time nature of many occupations and why they are full time investments not only in skill but in wisdom too.   Not everyone is good at their job because it requires hard work, effort and dedication to getting stuff right most of the time and being outright wrong only on rare occasions.  For the stuff falling somewhere between absolute right and absolute wrong you need the ability to dig deeper, to challenge, to listen, to understand, to ask the right questions, and always be prepared to express doubts if you have them and can put them into words.  You can then invest in original ways to do the job which others may choose to emulate.

What you should never be aiming to do is to look good to what you believe is your audience.  They'll make their own minds up and you should learn from that too.   

LVBPTS

can i share a different perspective on 'medicals'
medicals arent a pass or failure per se. the medical department run tests which generate results. the resuts are then used in turn in a risk assessment that the powers that be then make a decision on based on the risk against the outlay.
if we are signing player A for £25m on £50k p/w for 4 years and player B for £1m on £10k p/w for 2 years, payer B may have a worse set of results then player A but, due to the risk associated, player B would be signed and player A would not

medicals are not binary, they are literally just a part of a risk assessment.

with both sets of results, the club may take the risk on player A that then doesnt come off. same as any gamble. the 'problem' isnt with the medical or the results. the 'problem' as some see it as is the decision to take the gambe.

before i start any argument, im a big fan of Tony Khan and Shahid and all they have done and continue to do for the club and im not digging at anyone. im just trying to explain the process
Supporter since 2000

Fulham1959



rebel

Yes, we spent £12m on Mitroglou, played 3 times for us. Kongolo we spent £4m, played 2 times for us.