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Why are spurs fans so miserable ?

Started by Andy S, January 23, 2023, 08:28:27 AM

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Andy S

I have just taken a look at the Spurs message board and it makes sad reading. Some are calling for the manager to quit.They are insulting their players. They seem to believe they are better than they are. They call themselves supporters. I think they are beatable this evening so let's do it and put those poor people out of their misery

Rupert

You are forgetting that they won the league in 1961 and are a BIG club and the Champions League is their birthright. Anything less than total league and cup domination is abject failure for them.

Under those circumstances, you would be miserable too.
Any fool can criticise, condemn and complain, and most fools do.

Woolly Mammoth

Unfortunately for Spurs who were a wonderful team in the 60s under Bill Nicholson, those glory days are no longer and currently they are just another team making up the numbers in the English Premier League.
Unlike Fulham, Brentford, Brighton & Hove Albion, Bournemouth & Boscombe, Crystal Palace and Southampton, smaller clubs who have all had their struggles over the years, some of us reaching rock bottom in our worst days.
The difference is, is that your struggles develop your strengths, and when you can come through adversity and learn not to surrender that is strength, something Spurs supporters do not posses.

Because of that Tottenham Hotspur are one of those clubs whose supporters that do not possess the strengths
Fulham and a handful of others do.
They have been seduced by their previous successes to thinking that they have a given right to dominate the League just by existing, leaving their supporters spoilt rotten without the strength resilience to accept when times are difficult, and that is a massive weakness.

Add the fact that they currently have a manager whose heart is not in it i do not think, he seems to have lost that desire, and i do not think he has the greatest relationship with the Chairman, which is not a great fit.

Mind you he wouldn't be the first, then you look at certain players who play together like they are strangers and have just met.

Yes it seems to be a good time to play them, but let us beware of a wounded animal, and they can be dangerous when they feel like it.

However as the saying goes, " never give a sucker an even break ",
and you have to kick a team when they are down.

So we have a team that can conquer them, and when we get on top, we have to show no mercy, take no prisoners and keep our foot on their neck, because we have to.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.


fulhamfever

Because they are the under achievers of the century

Southdowns White

I think a lot of the false expectation with the bigger clubs is brought on by generations of family members recounting the good old days of 'When we were a winning team' Obviously whilst being a well supported team year on year, the new generation of supporters have inherited the 'Big team mentality' despite never really seeing their team at the top of their game ever. It runs through lots of teams that have fleeted with success occasionally over the years or clubs that pre 1970 experienced longer term success. Newcastle, Sunderland Leeds, Tottenham, West Ham being a few examples of this, going back further Preston and Burnley, although they no longer have the huge support they once had.  These supporters experience a miscued sense of entitlement and become particularly aggrieved when Little old Fulham, Brighton, Brentford and the like have periods of relative success on minimal budgets in relation to what their own teams spend on players.

Baszab

The last time Spurs won  the league it was closer to Queen Victoria's reign than King Charles III's


Marcus

deluded - won the league back in the day but it's ancient history relatively speaking - burnley and ipswich did it  because the game was better - more democratic -

gary neville called it right once - 0.5 of a club -

legana

They are always going to be disappointed as they have a silly obsession with the Champions League, rather than deeming winning the Europa League or FA Cup as a decent achievement for a club of their position in the current football hierarchy.

mrmicawbers

Think they are better than they are.Always been the case


hovewhite

Getting rid of pochettinno they've gone backwards it's sort of funny.

SG

For some inexplicable reason they were part of the proposed breakaway to form the European super league. Deluded lot.

filham

First team to win the league and FA Cup double with a great footballing team but have never got anywhere near that level since but have been overshadowed by their neighbours Arsenal.

Fans suffering from 60 years of frustration.


alfie

Quote from: Southdowns White on January 23, 2023, 09:31:05 AM
I think a lot of the false expectation with the bigger clubs is brought on by generations of family members recounting the good old days of 'When we were a winning team' Obviously whilst being a well supported team year on year, the new generation of supporters have inherited the 'Big team mentality' despite never really seeing their team at the top of their game ever. It runs through lots of teams that have fleeted with success occasionally over the years or clubs that pre 1970 experienced longer term success. Newcastle, Sunderland Leeds, Tottenham, West Ham being a few examples of this, going back further Preston and Burnley, although they no longer have the huge support they once had.  These supporters experience a miscued sense of entitlement and become particularly aggrieved when Little old Fulham, Brighton, Brentford and the like have periods of relative success on minimal budgets in relation to what their own teams spend on players.
Not sure about not having huge support they once had, they have the biggest and best ground in the country and sell out every game.
Story of my life
"I was looking back to see if she was looking back to see if i was looking back at her"
Sadly she wasn't

perry geyton

Get what they deserve
Horrible support

WindyCity

Agree with all of the above, and FFC does need to kick a team when they're down.  That said, Spurs are still a very good team and have players starting and on the bench that are very very good players.  FFC will need to be at their best to come out with three points.  Do I think we can do it?  Absolutely!!


The Rock

I've just confirmed it. Every Spurs supporter has been diagnosed with "Napoleon's Complex".

There's no need to hold out hope. There is no known cure.


RaySmith

I have always found their fans generally very arrogant, with a sense of entitlement.

Unlike most of their current fans probably, I have seen the famous Double winning side, with such as Blanchflower, John White, Bobby Smith, Cliff Jones play - when the Cottage was so packed, that I was unable to get to my usual spot on the Riverside terracing, and got stuck -  jammed into the Putney End.

But those Glory days are long gone, as said, and their fans tend to speak of themselves almost  as if they were like Fulham in their continuing disappointment, despite their status as a top division, top club, for all these years, usually flattering to deceive - but not doing badly compared to most clubs you  could say, with their wealth and the kind of players they always have.

Now is definitely a good time for us to play them, but 'beware the wounded beast,' as I think Woolly said - they will have a big support, who definitely will not want to lose, or even draw, to the likes of Fulham.

This is a mouth watering game, under the Cottage floodlights - a hard fought London derby, and I'm envious of those who will there, but at least it's on Now TV, and i will turn the commentary off and listen to GJ and Jamie, and I think Sean Davis could also be there.

COYW!!!!!

Dr Know

Quote from: filham on January 23, 2023, 12:50:00 PM
First team to win the league and FA Cup double with a great footballing team but have never got anywhere near that level since but have been overshadowed by their neighbours Arsenal.

Fans suffering from 60 years of frustration.
Preston were the first , I think !


Dr Know

Quote from: alfie on January 23, 2023, 01:03:59 PM
Quote from: Southdowns White on January 23, 2023, 09:31:05 AM
I think a lot of the false expectation with the bigger clubs is brought on by generations of family members recounting the good old days of 'When we were a winning team' Obviously whilst being a well supported team year on year, the new generation of supporters have inherited the 'Big team mentality' despite never really seeing their team at the top of their game ever. It runs through lots of teams that have fleeted with success occasionally over the years or clubs that pre 1970 experienced longer term success. Newcastle, Sunderland Leeds, Tottenham, West Ham being a few examples of this, going back further Preston and Burnley, although they no longer have the huge support they once had.  These supporters experience a miscued sense of entitlement and become particularly aggrieved when Little old Fulham, Brighton, Brentford and the like have periods of relative success on minimal budgets in relation to what their own teams spend on players.
Not sure about not having huge support they once had, they have the biggest and best ground in the country and sell out every game.
Old Trafford is bigger !

Southdowns White

Quote from: alfie on January 23, 2023, 01:03:59 PM
Quote from: Southdowns White on January 23, 2023, 09:31:05 AM
I think a lot of the false expectation with the bigger clubs is brought on by generations of family members recounting the good old days of 'When we were a winning team' Obviously whilst being a well supported team year on year, the new generation of supporters have inherited the 'Big team mentality' despite never really seeing their team at the top of their game ever. It runs through lots of teams that have fleeted with success occasionally over the years or clubs that pre 1970 experienced longer term success. Newcastle, Sunderland Leeds, Tottenham, West Ham being a few examples of this, going back further Preston and Burnley, although they no longer have the huge support they once had.  These supporters experience a miscued sense of entitlement and become particularly aggrieved when Little old Fulham, Brighton, Brentford and the like have periods of relative success on minimal budgets in relation to what their own teams spend on players.
Not sure about not having huge support they once had, they have the biggest and best ground in the country and sell out every game.
I think you've missed read what I said, Burnley and Preston no longer have the support they once had, all the others though still have large support.