ESR not clapping the fans

[ffcthereligion]

That's four appearances now, including two evening games requiring significant effort on the part of the fans, where ESR has not bothered to give us a clap at the end of the game or when being substituted (as has happened three times and where there is obvious opportunity).

I do not like this.

I do not expect him to love Fulham straight away, or any of our players to truly do so really, but I do expect that the players show some appreciation to those that make it possible for them to live the way they do (us).

This is not a post about his performances, rather his apparent attitude towards having signed for Fulham. I hope he starts to show a bit more interest about being here and gratitude towards us for giving him the opportunity.

IMO

[Lighthouse]

I remember Andy Melville was not a very open player to the fans. I think it is more to do with shyness than lack of respect. I see by the behind the scenes video how other players are constantly talking and making him smile. He is simply not a player who enjoys being overly smiley and doesn't interact with people.

But I prefer that than the overly smiley and clapping players who do it just for show.

ESR is a good player and one that will get better for us. His interaction with the fans is of little importance to most of us as long as he continues to play well.

[Stoneleigh Loyalist]

I remember Andy Melville was not a very open player to the fans. I think it is more to do with shyness than lack of respect. I see by the behind the scenes video how other players are constantly talking and making him smile. He is simply not a player who enjoys being overly smiley and doesn't interact with people.

But I prefer that than the overly smiley and clapping players who do it just for show.

ESR is a good player and one that will get better for us. His interaction with the fans is of little importance to most of us as long as he continues to play well.


I entirely agree with this comment. In an earlier interview Marco mentioned how shy ESR was unlike some of the other louder members of the team. Accept him for what he is and how he performs on the pitch.

[hovewhite]

I'm sure he will give him time.

[BestOfBrede]

Hmm, I think Stansfield's reaction was far worse!

I may be wrong, but to me it seemed as if:

Gets substituted and claps all fans in B'Ham supporters ends but looked like he ignored the away(our) end!?

Ungrateful ......

[Matt10]

It seems that he just doesn't like to be in the spotlight, which is sometimes the perfect player. He shows up, does the job and moves on. You can tell he's hard on himself as well. In the Ipswich match he under-hit a pass in the second half and shook his head and put his head down several times. Let's give it some time.

[Roberty]

I am not so sure that clapping the fans or kissing the badge is a sincere gesture.

In the days when at least some local boys played for their boyhood club, it could possibly be seen as a sign of appreciation or love for the fans or club we all support.
Do we have a Fulham boy playing for us - Sessegnon maybe - but most are journeyman players and not from the ranks of FFC supporters.

So what is with all this clapping and badge kissing? I've always seen it as so fake.

[Holders]

Players clapping the fans seems to be a modern phenomenon. When I started watching football most players just walked off at the end of the match and rarely acknowledged that the fans were there.

[jarv]

He has been at Arsenal his whole life.  He is young.  I am sure he needs time to blend in to the change.

[I Ronic]

Players clapping the fans seems to be a modern phenomenon. When I started watching football most players just walked off at the end of the match and rarely acknowledged that the fans were there.

That's because we used to lose alot in them days!

[filham]

My concern with ESR is that he does not seem able to play a 90 mminutr match.

Is he carrying an injury.

[the nutflush]

Wouldnt read too much into it.  I dont think he's an extrovert by any means. Also dont think he's quite match fit yet. 

[Lighthouse]

My concern with ESR is that he does not seem able to play a 90 mminutr match.

Is he carrying an injury.

He hasn't played many matches and so match fitness is an issue. But we are only three matches in and fitness is building.

[Hatch007]

Give ESR a break. He's hardly played for two years and his last EPL goal was April 2022 until Leicester last week.

His match fitness will approve

[General]

That's four appearances now, including two evening games requiring significant effort on the part of the fans, where ESR has not bothered to give us a clap at the end of the game or when being substituted (as has happened three times and where there is obvious opportunity).

I do not like this.

I do not expect him to love Fulham straight away, or any of our players to truly do so really, but I do expect that the players show some appreciation to those that make it possible for them to live the way they do (us).

This is not a post about his performances, rather his apparent attitude towards having signed for Fulham. I hope he starts to show a bit more interest about being here and gratitude towards us for giving him the opportunity.

IMO

This is a very selfish point of view tbh, why does a player have to clap anyone? Your feelings shouldn't be an arbiter preceding those of the team and how they play on the pitch in my view. hate to say it, but whilst to a football club fans are the life blood, to players the priority is the game, and being able to play. Your sensitivity about whether he's acknowledging you is toxic and just not that important to be honest. I'd much rather have a player who does well and gets his head down to get the results on the pitch over pandering to fans needs and wants, which are often just an unnecessary and unqualified distraction.

There are many reasons why a player may not be in the moment enough to clap fans. ESr could simply be taking the time to reflect, he's a quiet guy, so it says to me he's thoughtful and introspective - the worst case scenario is it's a lot of negative self talk that he can't manage.. the other could be that he's just very focused on reflecting on his performances in the moment, how his fitness was, whether he got that shot off - with a focus on trying to improve.


How many times have we seen fans want one thing, a player to be not played, to be sold, suggesting they don't rate the player or want something from a player from their couch, only for the player to prove them wrong or make the fans eat their words.

This isn't a game, it's not this touchy feely gen z thing where everyone's opinions should be pandered too, it's professional, high level and competitive football with all of it's own emotional dynamics that take priority over those of fans wanting to be clapped.

Even players who do clap don't always do so. With all due respect, you/noone has a god given right to just expect it because you may have paid some money to go to a game. You made that choice and have continued to do so regardless of the players at the club, the quality of their performances etc. so stop being so sensitive.

On top of that he left his boyhood club and a lot of his friends at a time when he had a desire to play at Arsenal... he's only ever said positive things about being at Fulham since he's signed - stating the whole experience has been amazing so far (mentioned after goal in Leicester post match interview).

Give the guy a break. I can't imagine you'd like it for being judged in the same way as you're judging him for such meaningless reasons.

Plus, I'm also pretty certain I've seen at least one or two photos of ESR clapping whilst at a match on social media.. so I'm not even 100% sure you're even saying something that's true.

[Lighthouse]

Yes clap for me and kneel down for minorities and the oppressed and say how much you love my club and....Oh you are off to make money in a Country who oppresses minorities, kills journalists who criticise the regime. Oh I love you so much for clapping me.

[ffcthereligion]

That's four appearances now, including two evening games requiring significant effort on the part of the fans, where ESR has not bothered to give us a clap at the end of the game or when being substituted (as has happened three times and where there is obvious opportunity).

I do not like this.

I do not expect him to love Fulham straight away, or any of our players to truly do so really, but I do expect that the players show some appreciation to those that make it possible for them to live the way they do (us).

This is not a post about his performances, rather his apparent attitude towards having signed for Fulham. I hope he starts to show a bit more interest about being here and gratitude towards us for giving him the opportunity.

IMO

This is a very selfish point of view tbh, why does a player have to clap anyone? Your feelings shouldn't be an arbiter preceding those of the team and how they play on the pitch in my view. hate to say it, but whilst to a football club fans are the life blood, to players the priority is the game, and being able to play. Your sensitivity about whether he's acknowledging you is toxic and just not that important to be honest. I'd much rather have a player who does well and gets his head down to get the results on the pitch over pandering to fans needs and wants, which are often just an unnecessary and unqualified distraction.

There are many reasons why a player may not be in the moment enough to clap fans. ESr could simply be taking the time to reflect, he's a quiet guy, so it says to me he's thoughtful and introspective - the worst case scenario is it's a lot of negative self talk that he can't manage.. the other could be that he's just very focused on reflecting on his performances in the moment, how his fitness was, whether he got that shot off - with a focus on trying to improve.


How many times have we seen fans want one thing, a player to be not played, to be sold, suggesting they don't rate the player or want something from a player from their couch, only for the player to prove them wrong or make the fans eat their words.

This isn't a game, it's not this touchy feely gen z thing where everyone's opinions should be pandered too, it's professional, high level and competitive football with all of it's own emotional dynamics that take priority over those of fans wanting to be clapped.

Even players who do clap don't always do so. With all due respect, you/noone has a god given right to just expect it because you may have paid some money to go to a game. You made that choice and have continued to do so regardless of the players at the club, the quality of their performances etc. so stop being so sensitive.

On top of that he left his boyhood club and a lot of his friends at a time when he had a desire to play at Arsenal... he's only ever said positive things about being at Fulham since he's signed - stating the whole experience has been amazing so far (mentioned after goal in Leicester post match interview).

Give the guy a break. I can't imagine you'd like it for being judged in the same way as you're judging him for such meaningless reasons.

Plus, I'm also pretty certain I've seen at least one or two photos of ESR clapping whilst at a match on social media.. so I'm not even 100% sure you're even saying something that's true.

A very bizarre response here. One of the strangest I've received I would say.

As if the counter factual statement about football not being a game wasnt odd enough, somehow having a pop at gen z made an appearance? An odd criticism more befitting of a rant in a daily mail comment - and I should think beneath you.

I accept people can have different opinions to me on this. That to others it may not be important whether a player claps or not, and that my interpretation that it shows a lack of interest or gratitude may be unfair. Instead it could be reflective of a more introverted character or shyness, you're right.

As for the rest, is it selfish to think players should acknowledge the support of the fans that enable their lifestyle? I don't think so. It's just an opinion with which you are welcome to disagree. I just find it a shame that you would do so in the manner you have.

A strange one to call me toxic given the contents of your own response and its general rudeness

[Dodgin]

Nice touch by Leno and Muniz after the game gifting to the fans. Enjoy the Ipswich trip, didn't AK47 walk straight off I recall at that game. It's what ESR does in the game that matters.

[RaySmith]

If you HAVE to clap or else be called out for, what? - disliking/disrespecting the fans? then doesn't that make the clapping fake, like much gesturing  in the modern game, and society generally, so maybe that's why he  hasn't clapped.

Or maybe, as someone said about him being introspective and   hard on himself, he wasn't happy with his performance, and didn't think he deserved the fans' applause, or was too  fed up to think of clapping - he maybe just never thought of it.

But fair play to the  op for raising a subject he's concerned about, which I'm sure has had others commenting in the media.

[KJS]

My concern with ESR is that he does not seem able to play a 90 mminutr match.

Is he carrying an injury.

No but Marco has stated that ESR is not in 100% condition yet and will be eased back to full fitness by our medical team, so no mystery just common sense by the club