Europa League final side

[JimOG]

Listening to Roy's interview on FFC site got me thinking about that team that got to the Europa League final


2010 Fulham Europa Final team.
M Schwarzer, C Baird, A Hughes, B Hangeland, P Konchesky, D Duff, D Etuhu,D Murphy (c),S Davies,,Z Gera,B Zamora.Substitutes: P Zuberbuhler, J Paintsil, E Nevland, B Riise, C Dempsey, J Greening,K Dikgacoi


How many would you include in our next matchday squad?

[St Eve]

Murphy and Hangeland

[Angus Telford]

If we're talking peak Zamora then he walks into our team all day long.

Plus Murphy

Maybe Schwarzer and Hangeland would be in with a shout for Leno/Bassey but I'm not sure

[Maidstone Lee]

         Schwarzer

Tete Andersen Hangeland Robinson

        Lukic
              Murphy
       
 Gera Smith-Rowe Iwobi/Dempsey
     
          Zamora

[Jim©]

Schwarzer

Tete Andersen Hangeland Robinson

        Lukic
              Murphy
       
 Gera Smith-Rowe Iwobi/Dempsey
     
          Zamora

What a side that would be. I'd be half tempted to swap Gera for Davies, who whilst being the only player to ever score for FFC in a major European final was always so underrated.

[LC]

Schwarzer was better than Leno in my opinion anyway.

Murphy walks into our team. And I would also take Hangeland but I'm not sure he and Andersen would do well together.

Roy's team were better defensively and no one can take away what he did. It's really tricky because you could easily argue that Roy's team was better than our current team, but individually they are not as good. Just goes to show you how good a manager Roy is/was.

[Southcoastffc]

My mixed squad - 2010 team in bold

Schwarzer
Tete
Andersen
Hangeland
Robinson
Murphy
Lukic
Duff
Davies
Gera
Zamora

Subs
Leno, Bassey, Davies, Hughes
 Dempsey, Iwobi, ESR, Jiminez, Traore

[sunburywhite]

How can you leave Hughes out? He was the player that made Hangerland look good

[DadCreature]

Dempsey would play for us now.   He scored goals when others couldn't.  We need that now.

[Carborundum]

Next match day squad.

Schwartzer for Benda. 

That's probably about it.  Doesn't matter how good the individual is, they need time to adapt to systems and the respective managers play very different systems.  Getting the ball to Danny for him to decide what to do with it just wouldn't work.  I'll never know, but rather suspect the magnificent Hangeland would struggle with the way we play.  But my point is that parachuting a newbie in to face anyone, let alone Man City is asking for trouble. 

Turning it around, how many of our current team would Roy have parachuted into the starting team for the final.  Probably none on principle, but he might have paused for thought with the fullbacks if he trusted they were going to stick to the simple script if needed as sub.  Suspect Iwobi has matured into someone right up his street, given the usual drilling.  He'd probably gamble with one of our current strikers by putting them on the bench.

[Jim©]

Next match day squad.

Schwartzer for Benda. 

That's probably about it.  Doesn't matter how good the individual is, they need time to adapt to systems and the respective managers play very different systems.  Getting the ball to Danny for him to decide what to do with it just wouldn't work.  I'll never know, but rather suspect the magnificent Hangeland would struggle with the way we play.  But my point is that parachuting a newbie in to face anyone, let alone Man City is asking for trouble. 

Turning it around, how many of our current team would Roy have parachuted into the starting team for the final.  Probably none on principle, but he might have paused for thought with the fullbacks if he trusted they were going to stick to the simple script if needed as sub.  Suspect Iwobi has matured into someone right up his street, given the usual drilling.  He'd probably gamble with one of our current strikers by putting them on the bench.

I think the truth is that we were a patched up, utterly exhausted side by the time we got to that final. Zamora was not fit (as he's said before) and almost all of the players had niggles and issues that would have been rested in a normal world. I think the full backs now probably spend too much time too high up the pitch for Roy's liking.
SO, i wonder if given a fit crop of current players, whether we'd see a good few parachuted in (though as you say they'd be without Roy's incessant positional drilling).

[General]

I think the question you could ask is who's the better manager - for us, given their records to date, it would be Hodgson, due to the fact he got us 7th in the table and to the Europa League final.

Marco, in many ways though is a better manager and we've a more fluid and attractive style.

Roy achieved what he did with an established PL side, whereas Marco is building one.

But we're sixth now and Roy thinks Marco can see us better our top position under Roy of 7th. If he does that, then we're in Europe.. then the differences between the two narrow.

I think Marco has the ability to supercede Roy's legacy with us.

I say that, because I think it'd be interesting to see who'd do better with the players - I think Marco would.

Roy had a team of workmen, whereas Marco has a team of style.. that being said, I think Marco has a more versatile managerial style, and would be better suited to working with either team.

I think this team will supercede Roy's in terms of where it ultimately gets to under Marco.

[filham]

Unless you are old enough to have seen Tony Macedo you wil never have seen a better Fulham keeper than Schwarzer.

[JimOG]

Unless you are old enough to have seen Tony Macedo you wil never have seen a better Fulham keeper than Schwarzer.

Saw both. Macedo was exciting making brave diving saves at forwards' feet. But Schwartzer's calmness in almost strolling out to catch crosses and corner kicks was a joy to behold. No point in floating in that cross...

[Steeeeeeeeeed]

Unless you are old enough to have seen Tony Macedo you wil never have seen a better Fulham keeper than Schwarzer.

Errrrr... Van Der Sarr

[Jim©]

Errrrr... Van Der Sarr

I think Schwarzer was a better keeper for us, by a distance too. There was one game away at Shakthar where even he started laughing when every single shot they hit at him just stuck in his hands.
I expected little from him, whereas I expected a lot from VDS. Maybe that's the difference.

[Southcoastffc]

Next match day squad.

Schwartzer for Benda. 

That's probably about it.  Doesn't matter how good the individual is, they need time to adapt to systems and the respective managers play very different systems.  Getting the ball to Danny for him to decide what to do with it just wouldn't work.  I'll never know, but rather suspect the magnificent Hangeland would struggle with the way we play.  But my point is that parachuting a newbie in to face anyone, let alone Man City is asking for trouble. 

Turning it around, how many of our current team would Roy have parachuted into the starting team for the final.  Probably none on principle, but he might have paused for thought with the fullbacks if he trusted they were going to stick to the simple script if needed as sub.  Suspect Iwobi has matured into someone right up his street, given the usual drilling.  He'd probably gamble with one of our current strikers by putting them on the bench.

Parachuting anyone is likely very difficult in either direction.Blending last week's and the Europa squad however would give a very talented outfit.

[ffcthereligion]

         Schwarzer

Tete Andersen hangeland Robinson

  Davies Murphy ESR Dempsey

         Gera

        Zamora

The old woy 4-4-1-1!

Duff hard to leave out

[ffcthereligion]

I think the question you could ask is who's the better manager - for us, given their records to date, it would be Hodgson, due to the fact he got us 7th in the table and to the Europa League final.

Marco, in many ways though is a better manager and we've a more fluid and attractive style.

Roy achieved what he did with an established PL side, whereas Marco is building one.

But we're sixth now and Roy thinks Marco can see us better our top position under Roy of 7th. If he does that, then we're in Europe.. then the differences between the two narrow.

I think Marco has the ability to supercede Roy's legacy with us.

I say that, because I think it'd be interesting to see who'd do better with the players - I think Marco would.

Roy had a team of workmen, whereas Marco has a team of style.. that being said, I think Marco has a more versatile managerial style, and would be better suited to working with either team.

I think this team will supercede Roy's in terms of where it ultimately gets to under Marco.

I agree with most of what you say. Overall I think marco is the better manager but unlike you I can't see marco superseding Roy's achievements on paper.

The two main reasons for that are a) if we threatened to do that Marco would be snapped up by a big boy b) the league is completely different kettle of fish now to Roy's day.

In those days you had mud bath pitches at Wigan and players like Lee bowyer being main stays of sides capable of top 10 finishes. Completely different competition these days

[sunburywhite]

Errrrr... Van Der Sarr

I think Schwarzer was a better keeper for us, by a distance too. There was one game away at Shakthar where even he started laughing when every single shot they hit at him just stuck in his hands.
I expected little from him, whereas I expected a lot from VDS. Maybe that's the difference.

I agree I think Schwarzar was he best we had in the last 50 years but my favourite was still Maik Taylor