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Say what you like about the Premier League

Started by C Block, May 14, 2025, 02:10:10 AM

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C Block

The excitement of it is nothing compared to The Championship, and that's not just us it's the entire Premier League product,
Not a single moment in the entire Premier League this season could even remotely compare to the drama at Sunderland tonight,
Be honest with yourselves when did a Premier League game at Craven Cottage last compare to that night against Derby County in the play offs?
If we ever get relegated would it honestly be the end of the world?
For me personally it would mean attending more games.

Tabby

Potentially having 3 playoff games, where 2 could be as dramatic, every other year (unless we aim to lose the final every year) would be a huge perk.

You could also get the same drama qualifying for Europe or by doing well in a cup. A lot harder to have last gasp deciders in a league format.

perry geyton

Championships a nightmare when your struggling at the bottom end but the best when your near the top

This mid table Prem thing does get rather dull

BUT
beating Liverpool Chelsea Spurs etc. felt fantastic


Rupert

I seem to recall our promotion from the bottom tier under Mickey Adams was pretty exciting, but it is not an experience I would hurry to repeat.

Also, a return to the Championship does not necessarily mean we would be fighting for promotion. Look at Luton this season, or at us in 1968/9. Relegated from the top flight and slipping right through to a second successive relegation.

No, boring mid table obscurity with occasional victories over the Liverpools and Chelskis of the world is fine by me.
Any fool can criticise, condemn and complain, and most fools do.

RaySmith

Never boring watching Fulham imo!

I think people have short memories to find the Prem boring - I suppose it was a bit boring to watch us getting beaten all the time back in the day, but now we're usually at least in with a chance at most games - hence our frustration at our recent drop off in results.

But there's always that jeopardy in the Prem - you're never too good to go down for most of the teams.

How would it be if we were doing badly in the Champ. for fans? And you can always drop  again.
Well it's happened before to us, and we had good players then,  too.

SuffolkWhite

Love the Championship but in a different way to the Premier League.  We can win the Championship but not the Premier, maybe that's the difference. But the other good thing about the Championship is no away fans in the home areas generally, and no var.
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"How's that?"
"Don't you start"


sarnian

Quote from: SuffolkWhite on May 14, 2025, 07:35:14 AMLove the Championship but in a different way to the Premier League.  We can win the Championship but not the Premier, maybe that's the difference. But the other good thing about the Championship is no away fans in the home areas generally, and no var.

No VAR has actually been a nightmare this season in the football leagues. Huge number of mistakes with offsides. VAR works, it's the operators of the system are not up to the job.

Dodgin

Great dramatic finish last night, playoffs are exciting end to the lower leagues season but finishing third by an odd point, then losing out seems pretty painful.

Yorkie_FFC

Quote from: sarnian on May 14, 2025, 07:52:59 AM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on May 14, 2025, 07:35:14 AMLove the Championship but in a different way to the Premier League.  We can win the Championship but not the Premier, maybe that's the difference. But the other good thing about the Championship is no away fans in the home areas generally, and no var.

No VAR has actually been a nightmare this season in the football leagues. Huge number of mistakes with offsides. VAR works, it's the operators of the system are not up to the job.

I think VAR is in place for the final which I guess would make sense


bencher

The play offs is essentially a short-form cup competition, so you can't use it as the basis for comparing Championship and PL. The PL could also implement a play-off if they wanted, e.g. a play-off between 18th-20th of PL and 1st - 3rd of Championship, or other formats.

A better comparison would be the Champions League semi finals (very high quality football with lots of drama) and the play-offs.

St Eve

Exciting as the play offs can be, the best league in the world is the premier league. We must continue to solidify our position as relegation would be a disaster. The gap is just too big

Fulham Tup North

Quote from: St Eve on May 14, 2025, 11:44:31 AMExciting as the play offs can be, the best league in the world is the premier league. We must continue to solidify our position as relegation would be a disaster. The gap is just too big
St.Eve's correct,
Out of Leeds, Burnley and Sheffield Utd / Sunderland - how many of these three promoted sides will still be in the EPL this time next year?
The best comment I read on the BBC HYS when asking about how well Leeds & Burnley will fair in the EPL ... and someone said "I will give them both 3 seasons - Autumn, Winter & Spring" !!  :slap:
Says it all really ... all three will probably struggle next season - and those in the Championship will be desperate to come back up.
Last night's game though was excellent entertainment.  Big fan of the play-offs.
COYW

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RAY Rock

6-0 on aggregate is a joke and embarrassing
Coventry were the better team but they play like us keep the ball cross the ball to no effect maybe score 1 but it isn't enough teams need to go for the throat when they are on top

Lighthouse

Generally the matches in the Championship are usually more entertaining. Teams tend to like to have a go and have various tactics. The Prem can be at times a littler pedestrian to watch even with the top teams.

Undoubtedly the Prem is the elite. But as is often the case. The lower you go down the leagues the more entertaining and have a go the matches are.
The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

We may yet hear the horse talk.

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WindyCity

Say what you like, but I'd rather see FFC in the PL, all the time.  Saw this topic discussed during recent yo-yo years, and some fans prefer second tier football for various reasons.  To each his own.  For me, no thanks.  Were there some exciting happenings in the Championship?  Sure.  Can't ever forget the Odoi header flick-on, or the Cairney slot in off the Sessegnon pass.  Terrific fun and excitement. 

But I think every player desires to be in top flight.  And I think fans of various teams should feel the same way, but that's just me.  Top flight is the goal.  To reach it, and stay in it.  Though we've had a disappointing end to this season, plenty of excitement to be had in those wins v Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea.  If you couldn't get excited about those results and felt top of the world as a fan, then we may need to check for heartbeat.  Top flight for me - all the time.


bobbo

#15
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on May 14, 2025, 12:59:44 PM
Quote from: St Eve on May 14, 2025, 11:44:31 AMExciting as the play offs can be, the best league in the world is the premier league. We must continue to solidify our position as relegation would be a disaster. The gap is just too big
St.Eve's correct,
Out of Leeds, Burnley and Sheffield Utd / Sunderland - how many of these three promoted sides will still be in the EPL this time next year?
The best comment I read on the BBC HYS when asking about how well Leeds & Burnley will fair in the EPL ... and someone said "I will give them both 3 seasons - Autumn, Winter & Spring" !!  :slap:
Says it all really ... all three will probably struggle next season - and those in the Championship will be desperate to come back up.
Last night's game though was excellent entertainment.  Big fan of the play-offs.
COYW
As much as it hurts to say it , I think Leeds will do well this time around . Yeah they didn't win the championship by a big margin but I thought they looked quite polished this season . I won't be upset if I'm wrong I vividly remember the bunch of animals that played there 50 years ago .

1975 just leaving home full of hope

blingo

So some of you want the excitement of the Championship to go up to where we are now?

SP

I read somewhere that Leeds will be a force next season if they can buy a decent keeper, CH, CM & strikers - no easy task.


C Block

Just been reading the exciting news that Sky are going to screening an extra 70% more games, with more Friday night games and more Monday night games and even more Sunday 2pm kick offs,
Worth considering if you are in two minds about renewing your season ticket.

bill taylors apprentice

League One play off tonight, Oliver Norwood playing Stockport and Ollie O'Neill scores for Orient.
Entertaining game.