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[Fulham 442]

I feel glad for me but so sorry for GW at the same time

I quite agree that I hope you are still beating the doctors

Of course also wishing you all the best GW.

[Gloucester White]

Thanks everyone for your good wishes, appreciate it. I'm still feeling well. Getting a bit fed up with various people phoning me and talking about my death! Latest is the hospice. I am sure they do a good job, but really it can get depressing. I have my 2 kids and my grandchildren staying at Christmas and the hospice lady wants to advise me how to tell them the 2 young ones. Don't think I can face that. Keira was 6 this week, and Ollie is 3. I think I will chicken out of that one. It would ruin Christmas - well, that's my excuse anyway.

Great news Sunbury, as you say, onwards and upwards.
Tony

[HV71]

It's not an excuse - it is important that you take things at the pace you want to. Of course it's wise of you to listen to others well meaning council but given your already demonstrable courage you must follow your instincts . You are clearly a very good man trying to do the best for everyone around you - bless you .

[Gloucester White]

It's not an excuse - it is important that you take things at the pace you want to. Of course it's wise of you to listen to others well meaning council but given your already demonstrable courage you must follow your instincts . You are clearly a very good man trying to do the best for everyone around you - bless you .

Thank you. I don't think I can sit the little ones down and tell them Grumpy is dying and I probably won't see you again (they live in Portsmouth, a long way from Telford)- I was asked if I wanted to be Grandad or Grandpa and opted for Grumpy as my wife is always telling me I am grumpy! Just can't face that.

[sunburywhite]

It's not an excuse - it is important that you take things at the pace you want to. Of course it's wise of you to listen to others well meaning council but given your already demonstrable courage you must follow your instincts . You are clearly a very good man trying to do the best for everyone around you - bless you .

Thank you. I don't think I can sit the little ones down and tell them Grumpy is dying and I probably won't see you again (they live in Portsmouth, a long way from Telford)- I was asked if I wanted to be Grandad or Grandpa and opted for Grumpy as my wife is always telling me I am grumpy! Just can't face that.

Hi Tony

Fcuk life is hard isnt it

This is not a solution but when one of our cats died my daughter told Finley who is coming up for 3 that Holly had gone to live in another house, sometimes cats doe that.  He accepted that

I cant advise you how to handle it but it seems like you have your head screwed on and I am sure you will handle it in the right way

[I Ronic]

  If I was one of your grand children. I'd appriate a letter. Telling me about your life especially all the best bits. I'd have that letter for life then. It would very probably change the way I go about things.
  We've only swapped a couple of messages but right now I just want to hear the good stuff. Not just because it would delay me thinking about the worst but because it would give you a break from it as well.
  So I'm keeping my fingers crossed and looking forward to hearing something we don't know about you :)

[sunburywhite]

Hi Tony

Hope you are holding up

IRonic is right, you need to leave something behind for those who follow as hard and sad as that sounds

I was lucky I worked for a long time with my dad so knew most about his worklife but not all are so lucky

So many times after my father then my mother died, we as a family would aska question and then say "if only mum was here, she would know"

You can always read a story on the Tony machines for the kids or record sopmething for posterity

I wiped all our voicemails on the phone because I couldnt bear to hear my mothers voice but other people might see it different

[sunburywhite]

It's not an excuse - it is important that you take things at the pace you want to. Of course it's wise of you to listen to others well meaning council but given your already demonstrable courage you must follow your instincts . You are clearly a very good man trying to do the best for everyone around you - bless you .

Thank you. I don't think I can sit the little ones down and tell them Grumpy is dying and I probably won't see you again (they live in Portsmouth, a long way from Telford)- I was asked if I wanted to be Grandad or Grandpa and opted for Grumpy as my wife is always telling me I am grumpy! Just can't face that.

On that basis I would be "Grandad b@stard"

[Somerset Fulham]

LOL Sunbury.

Damn this must be so hard, GW and once again I am so very sorry.

Maybe don't tell them and just have the best time that you and those children have ever had. As I Ronic has said, a letter would be an amazing thing, telling them about your life, your passions and your love for them both.

I would have loved it if either of my grandparents had left me something like that.

I hope you have the greatest Christmas you have ever had mate.
x

[Kemosabe]

Both my grandfathers were known as Grumpy; and my father was Grumpy to my kids  It's not a name that's heard very commonly - so good to know that someone else is using it.

My mother died when my sister and I were both at university.  This was almost forty years ago.  My sister has said several times that she wishes that there had been video available as she would have loved to have footage (and sound) of our mother that she could look back and show to her kids. 

I've recently been on the end of serious illness (and death) of another close relative.  It all went too fast to get to the video stage and I think that my kids may also wish they had some footage.

If you're up to it, you could get some video to share - you could start with you reading one of your grandkids favourite bedtime stories, and then go on to some footage for when they are older.  Just make sure that there are several copies stored with different people.

[Gloucester White]

A letter, brilliant, what a great idea. I will do that. Thanks so much for the idea and your kind comments. Happy christmas to all and 3 points on Monday please.

Tony aka Gumpy

[Woolly Mammoth]

Good luck and all the best Sunbury White  and Gloucester White with your treatments, and I include and not forgetting everyone else who are suffering issues with their health and well being.

[blingo]

It's not an excuse - it is important that you take things at the pace you want to. Of course it's wise of you to listen to others well meaning council but given your already demonstrable courage you must follow your instincts . You are clearly a very good man trying to do the best for everyone around you - bless you .

My thoughts exactly MrHV wasgoing to write something similar.

Do what YOU feel is right MrGW, I wish you and yours the BEST Christmas EVER. GBY.

[susiescw]

Not for everyone but personally I'd try Dandelion root, Fenbendazole and Ivermectin, anything's worth a try.  Attitude is everything and you both clearly have what it takes.  You may want to pick up this video of Michael Sheen reading Dylan Thomas 'Do not go Gentle into that good night.' Good luck and here's wishing for Christmas miracles all round.

Not sure how to put a link on here but this is the address if you're interested in this rendition of a poem that may help keep your spirits up.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3937537686362404

[hovewhite]

Wish I had the faith that you guys have for our health service. I was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer about 8 years ago. I had 4 bouts of pancreatitis involving around 4 weeks in hospital on a drip each time, and was under the John Radcliffe hospital in Oxford. Then they stuck a camera down me to examine my pancreas - they put you under to do that. Just as I was coming round from the anesthetic the doctor told me she had found a tumour and they would be in touch. She then disappeared, leaving me barely conscious and shocked.
I was then transferred to the Churchill hospital (the cancer hospital in the John Radcliffe group) where the consultant wanted to remove most of my insides during an 11 hour operation. Later, they decided I wouldn't survive the operation and basically sent in home to die.
I did some research online and found a doctor in the USA who had success curing pancreatic cancer just by giving the patient large doses of iodine. It worked, the iodine burnt away the tumour. It's not possible to overdose, it just turns your pee a spectaclur shade of orange! The survival rate for patients having the usual pancreas operation is 12% after 5 years. 8 years and counting, so far I am beating those odds.

GW hope your ok,I had a conversation with the nurse when getting a blood test,about surgeries not being prevention first as testing to prevention stops them treating the ill.
All men over 40 should get tested on a regular basis.

[sunburywhite]

Bumping back to the top

Clarkson has just showed the benefit of getting tested

Very lucky for him that he did

[Gloucester White]

As the thread is live again, I thought I would add an update. A few people have been kind enough to send me private messages asking how I am doing. In one week it will be 10 months since my diagnoses of stage 4 pancreatic cancer. 9 days ago I had a CT scan as my consultant wants to know why I'm not dead! Haven't seen the results yet. I received a Fitbit for my birthday in April, and entered my weight as 183 pounds, today it is 182. Severe weight loss is a sign that the patient is circling the drain, so I must be doing something right. So glad I refused the palliative chemo. 

[sunburywhite]

As the thread is live again, I thought I would add an update. A few people have been kind enough to send me private messages asking how I am doing. In one week it will be 10 months since my diagnoses of stage 4 pancreatic cancer. 8 days ago I had a CT scan as my consultant wants to know why I'm not dead! Haven't seen the results yet. I received a Fitbit for my birthday in April, and entered my weight as 183 pounds, today it is 182. Severe weight loss is a sign that the patient is circling the drain, so I must be doing something right. So glad I refused the palliative chemo. 

Thanks for the update Tony, good news

Lets hope you are around long enough to see the new manager

[ScalleysDad]

Absolutely flippin excellent news.

[Fulham 1879]

As the thread is live again, I thought I would add an update. A few people have been kind enough to send me private messages asking how I am doing. In one week it will be 10 months since my diagnoses of stage 4 pancreatic cancer. 9 days ago I had a CT scan as my consultant wants to know why I'm not dead! Haven't seen the results yet. I received a Fitbit for my birthday in April, and entered my weight as 183 pounds, today it is 182. Severe weight loss is a sign that the patient is circling the drain, so I must be doing something right. So glad I refused the palliative chemo. 

Really hope that the scan is good news. Tough one to beat but you're doing remarkably well and long may it continue.