NFR The Ashes start on Friday

[JimmyConway]

Openers needed to lay platform in this series. Dedication is not in the mindset of either opener! Crawley has it all but inconsistency will always be his downfall and Duckett looks out of nick but he is always one innings away from a good knock.You need both getting runs as Pope will never be a top international batsman against the better bowling attacks. Move Brook & Root up one Jacks in above the keeper and bring in extra bowler or perhaps Bethell as he is the future.

[bog]

After those two abject test failures surely there has to be a change of plan as the present one is not working. I think that is pretty obvious.      

[Rj Fulham]

I may be battered and bruised from my RL Cricket, but watching us go up 2-0 at least made me feel a little better!

Cheers 

[Plodder]

I may be battered and bruised from my RL Cricket, but watching us go up 2-0 at least made me feel a little better!

Cheers 

Australia have been so much smarter than England in their batting and bowling, and their catching has made them look professional and England almost amateur in comparison. I bet you and your fellow Australians can't believe how dumb England's "preparation" and cricket on the field has been. Some of the team have never played a pink ball match.  How is Jamie Smith expected to bat and keep to a pink ball under lights with a baying Gabba crowd? They look absolutely out on their feet after a day in the field, because by not playing any red or pink ball cricket for months, they have not built up the mental and physical stamina needed for four days of cricket, let alone five. Incredible.

Adelaide will probably be a pitch more suited to England, but it is hard to see how they can get out of this swiftly downward spiral. For me, at least Tongue has to play, but having stuck stubbornly with the same batsmen for several years, there is no one ready to step into the team.  I don't get the clamour for Bethell. He is the same as Pope and Crawley, a dasher who could hit a brilliant hundred, but as he has never made a century in red ball first class cricket (and only one in international ODIs), and has hardly played any long format cricket this year, he is no more or less likely to than Pope.

England and Fulham losing, at least Lando Norris winning the F1 World Championship  was some consolation.

[Plodder]

Openers needed to lay platform in this series. Dedication is not in the mindset of either opener! Crawley has it all but inconsistency will always be his downfall and Duckett looks out of nick but he is always one innings away from a good knock.You need both getting runs as Pope will never be a top international batsman against the better bowling attacks. Move Brook & Root up one Jacks in above the keeper and bring in extra bowler or perhaps Bethell as he is the future.

This is another infuriating aspect of England's management. They invest time and effort in the likes of Bushell and Bashir, who have no serious record in first class longer format cricket, while ignoring players who have consistently performed in the County Championship.  And then they "rest " Bushell from almost all red ball cricket this year, and drop Bashir as soon as they reach Australia.  Whilst I don't think either should be in the team, it makes a mockery of the so-called long term planning which McCUllum and Stokes say has been the case.

[Hatch007]

The Aussies are going to retain the Ashes today yet the Adelaide Oval looks less than half full.

Without the travelling English contingent the ground would practically be empty 🤷🏻

[bobbo]

Well we just won the 4th test after the Aussies had secured the ashes.strange we win one once the ashes secured , those Aussies have been known to not adhere to fair play in the past , just saying.

[Thailand Mick]

For me this has been the worst Ashes in my lifetime, two crap pitches, a farce of a pink ball test that basically nobody else plays. We get a decent test in Adelaide and along come snikko to ruin that one.

[H4usuallysitting]

I'm not sure how we won that - but it didn't look like test cricket

[C Block]

Horrible to watch and my heart goes out to the tens of thousands who spent tens of thousands flying out to watch that,
Very disappointing 😞

[alfie]

Horrible to watch and my heart goes out to the tens of thousands who spent tens of thousands flying out to watch that,
Very disappointing 😞

My mate is out there for this and just spoke to him, they partying after the win

[Woolly Mammoth]

Horrible to watch and my heart goes out to the tens of thousands who spent tens of thousands flying out to watch that,
Very disappointing 😞

My mate is out there for this and just spoke to him, they partying after the win.

Good to hear, I wish I could join him.

[Deeping_white]

It's quite annoying because the assertion that this is one of the worst Australian teams in a long time is spot on, and the Ashes were there for the taking if we'd applied a bit of common sense to our batting. 3-1 down with 1 to play but it could easily have been 2-2 or 1-3 if we hadn't capitulated several times. Neither team really stocked with any great batting application outside of Smith and Root, and the less said about the wicket prepared for the first and fourth tests the better, absolutely tragic that they left the grass at 10mm for a test match. Granted not every wicket was due to the pitch but it certainly got into the players heads and made it an uneven contest. We probably don't deserve a 3-1/3-2 series loss because of our batting, but hopefully serious lessons have been learned that Bazball will have a time and place, but not in an Ashes series against a competent bowling attack