Harvey

[Sting of the North]

Long article on BBC Sport website explaining why it's all gone wrong for Elliott at Villa.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0q51l742lyo

Helpful link that explains he's already played for Liverpool and Villa this season, so a move for him in January isn't on the cards.  He's good and with Liverpool not exactly pulling up trees, a switch back might suit all parties.

Will the management and/or fans welcome him back? Let's not forget that part of the reason why Sess (and Palhinha) is so loved here is because he signed a new contract so that we could get the max transfer fee for him from Spurs, something neither Harvey Elliot nor Carvalho did.

To be fair to Carvalho he could have well gone from us in January but stayed and performed admirably until the end of the season.

I'm not sure that is entirely correct. He was still under contract, so he couldn't just leave surely. He could have signed a contract with a new club, with effect from the summer thoug I guess. Or am I missing something?

In any case, he was a huge part of our promotion and seemingly gave his all. Players are no more under an obligation to sign a contract than the club is to offer one. Both operate in a (mostly) free market. As long as a player gives his all for the club, and acts with decency, I wouldn't hold any grudges, the same as I wouldn't be mad at the club for not offering every player new contracts all the time.

[Carborundum]

Long article on BBC Sport website explaining why it's all gone wrong for Elliott at Villa.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0q51l742lyo

Helpful link that explains he's already played for Liverpool and Villa this season, so a move for him in January isn't on the cards.  He's good and with Liverpool not exactly pulling up trees, a switch back might suit all parties.

Will the management and/or fans welcome him back? Let's not forget that part of the reason why Sess (and Palhinha) is so loved here is because he signed a new contract so that we could get the max transfer fee for him from Spurs, something neither Harvey Elliot nor Carvalho did.

I don't know if Liverpool will welcome him back in January.  A change of gaffer and they just might.  He can't come here, because playing for three clubs in a season isn't allowed.

[demeant0r]

Long article on BBC Sport website explaining why it's all gone wrong for Elliott at Villa.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0q51l742lyo

Helpful link that explains he's already played for Liverpool and Villa this season, so a move for him in January isn't on the cards.  He's good and with Liverpool not exactly pulling up trees, a switch back might suit all parties.

Will the management and/or fans welcome him back? Let's not forget that part of the reason why Sess (and Palhinha) is so loved here is because he signed a new contract so that we could get the max transfer fee for him from Spurs, something neither Harvey Elliot nor Carvalho did.

To be fair to Carvalho he could have well gone from us in January but stayed and performed admirably until the end of the season.

Yeah, I'd have Carvalho back (as would Marco I'm sure) because he didn't throw his toys out the pram. And it's obviously not the only reason why Elliot gets the abuse he does from our fans but it's up there.

[demeant0r]

Long article on BBC Sport website explaining why it's all gone wrong for Elliott at Villa.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0q51l742lyo

Helpful link that explains he's already played for Liverpool and Villa this season, so a move for him in January isn't on the cards.  He's good and with Liverpool not exactly pulling up trees, a switch back might suit all parties.

Will the management and/or fans welcome him back? Let's not forget that part of the reason why Sess (and Palhinha) is so loved here is because he signed a new contract so that we could get the max transfer fee for him from Spurs, something neither Harvey Elliot nor Carvalho did.

I don't know if Liverpool will welcome him back in January.  A change of gaffer and they just might.  He can't come here, because playing for three clubs in a season isn't allowed.

Probably would take another manager but I can't see them sacking Slot soon.

[demeant0r]

Long article on BBC Sport website explaining why it's all gone wrong for Elliott at Villa.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0q51l742lyo

Helpful link that explains he's already played for Liverpool and Villa this season, so a move for him in January isn't on the cards.  He's good and with Liverpool not exactly pulling up trees, a switch back might suit all parties.

Will the management and/or fans welcome him back? Let's not forget that part of the reason why Sess (and Palhinha) is so loved here is because he signed a new contract so that we could get the max transfer fee for him from Spurs, something neither Harvey Elliot nor Carvalho did.

To be fair to Carvalho he could have well gone from us in January but stayed and performed admirably until the end of the season.

I'm not sure that is entirely correct. He was still under contract, so he couldn't just leave surely. He could have signed a contract with a new club, with effect from the summer thoug I guess. Or am I missing something?

In any case, he was a huge part of our promotion and seemingly gave his all. Players are no more under an obligation to sign a contract than the club is to offer one. Both operate in a (mostly) free market. As long as a player gives his all for the club, and acts with decency, I wouldn't hold any grudges, the same as I wouldn't be mad at the club for not offering every player new contracts all the time.

But you have to admit that if a player, especially a youth prospect, signs a new contract that allows us to get more from them in a transfer that is more likely to make fans like him more.

[Sting of the North]

Long article on BBC Sport website explaining why it's all gone wrong for Elliott at Villa.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0q51l742lyo

Helpful link that explains he's already played for Liverpool and Villa this season, so a move for him in January isn't on the cards.  He's good and with Liverpool not exactly pulling up trees, a switch back might suit all parties.

Will the management and/or fans welcome him back? Let's not forget that part of the reason why Sess (and Palhinha) is so loved here is because he signed a new contract so that we could get the max transfer fee for him from Spurs, something neither Harvey Elliot nor Carvalho did.

To be fair to Carvalho he could have well gone from us in January but stayed and performed admirably until the end of the season.

I'm not sure that is entirely correct. He was still under contract, so he couldn't just leave surely. He could have signed a contract with a new club, with effect from the summer thoug I guess. Or am I missing something?

In any case, he was a huge part of our promotion and seemingly gave his all. Players are no more under an obligation to sign a contract than the club is to offer one. Both operate in a (mostly) free market. As long as a player gives his all for the club, and acts with decency, I wouldn't hold any grudges, the same as I wouldn't be mad at the club for not offering every player new contracts all the time.

But you have to admit that if a player, especially a youth prospect, signs a new contract that allows us to get more from them in a transfer that is more likely to make fans like him more.

Of course. But there is a difference between not "liking someone more" and disliking someone. In my book at least.