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gambling sponsors

Started by WhiteJC, September 24, 2021, 09:18:08 AM

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should gambling sponsors be banned from football?

yes
30 (71.4%)
no
12 (28.6%)

Total Members Voted: 42

Voting closed: September 27, 2021, 09:18:08 AM

WhiteJC

With Bolton Wanderers rejecting both sponsorship and "on ground" gambling...





What do you think, should FFC be cutting ties with gambling sponsors?

Terry Towling

Its far too easy to get into debt gambling now - when I was young you had to go to the bookies but today gambling is pushed as "fun" by companies getting people to download and use their apps. I am not a gambler but have gambled in a casino when my friends took me there years ago. Luckily I won and stopped but have never had so much money that I don't mind throwing it away. What I do know is that some "casino" app is not like being actually at a casino and is instead a way to empty your bank account in a very short time. No govenment would allow pushers to advertise heroin on the radio, TV and in football grounds so why this addiction?

Woolly Mammoth

You never come across a poor Bookmaker.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.


RaySmith

Not sure that gambling sponsorship should be banned, but was reading about  Paul Merson's problem with gambling addiction, and addiction generally, and it was very moving.

The gambling firms made it easy for him to get into  debt, without any  measures taken to stop spending fortunes when he  already owed money.

But, as he says, the problem was  within himself, but the gambling companies do seem very irresponsible.

I see nothing wrong with gambling for most people, and am not necessarily against sponsorship, but there should be  measures stopping people who obviously have a problem from ruining their lives.

filham

I thought that gambling advertising was banned at football grounds a couple of seasons ago but it seems that at present there are no limitations, seems I got the wrong message.
No real harm in the occasional flutter but it seem a lot of harm is caused by habitual gambling.
Yes it should be banned in all forms from football.

Andy S

No doubt in my mind clubs should not use gambling companies to legitimise gambling. Long term it is as bad for people as smoking which was banned many years ago. It should be banned with legislation as well


Wolf

No IMHO seems like an extension of "cancel culture" and wanting to ban things people disagree with. It's not, and never likely to be (££££), illegal.
Likes: Fulham
Hates: the Hounslow maggots

Statto

Certainly don't feel gambling companies are in a particularly admirable position but you can say the same about companies offering people alcoholic drinks, unhealthy foods, cheap flights, speculative investments... etc etc. So where does it stop?

Woolly Mammoth

The last time I placed money on a horse, the wind blew it off.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.


bog

#9
Well done Bolton Wanderers! I find those so called celebs who add their so called weight to a betting company's adverts really offensive and annoying. I was particularly disappointed in Peter Crouch's involvement. I thought he was better than that. They all must have seen the devastation gambling can cause.  :031: 

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Terry Towling

Quote from: Statto on September 24, 2021, 10:53:34 AM
Certainly don't feel gambling companies are in a particularly admirable position but you can say the same about companies offering people alcoholic drinks, unhealthy foods, cheap flights, speculative investments... etc etc. So where does it stop?

Alcohol in moderation (not the way I use it) can be good for you - can the same be said of taking your money and throwing it away?

HamsterWheel

Gambling isn't illegal, so no compelling reason not to allow it to be advertised.

I enjoy a flutter on footy and nags, and usually do slightly better than breakeven, so can't stop!


Statto

Quote from: Terry Towling on September 24, 2021, 11:33:05 AM
Quote from: Statto on September 24, 2021, 10:53:34 AM
Certainly don't feel gambling companies are in a particularly admirable position but you can say the same about companies offering people alcoholic drinks, unhealthy foods, cheap flights, speculative investments... etc etc. So where does it stop?

Alcohol in moderation (not the way I use it) can be good for you - can the same be said of taking your money and throwing it away?

Yep nothing wrong with a race day with friends or the arcades at a fair

MartyFFC

#13
No different to insurance companies, anyone paying insurance is essentially gambling money on a specific outcome. Though having your phone stolen isn't perhaps quite as enjoyable as lumping an Ayrton Senna on Mitrovic bagging the first goal

3 Cherries

500 gamblers commit suicide a year in the UK

The initiative at Bolton is aimed at supporting those with gambling 'problems' not making it illegal ffs

The Bet365 boss paid herself 421M wages last year (personally think those wages are bloody immoral with so much poverty about but that's my opinion) - there's an old saying: 'gambling is the crudest form of capitalism' - it hits the poorest hardest - I live in the east end and there are bookies bloody everywhere (and chicken and chip shops) - go to Richmond or Kew and see how few if any there are

Personally think unless you are close to somebody who has or had a gambling addiction you cannot really appreciate the pain and suffering excessive gambling causes, not just to the addict but to those around them

I think this is a much needed move - well done to the women owners of Bolton 



Sgt Fulham

Yes, but not because I think gamblers are 100% victims, but because how predatory and unethical companies have become. Go after gambling companies one day, then hopefully advertising companies and social media companies the next. It is appalling what many of then get away with.

Somerset Fulham

Apparently there are at least 55,000 children aged between 11 and 16 that have gambling problems, so something is very wrong with gambling.

I very rarely gamble myself, but also wouldn't have the first idea what to do about the current situation.  Initially I was all for banning gambling around the grounds etc but then I thought, are children swayed by their team having Bet365 on their shirt?  I really doubt it.  Apps are a different matter though, I think.  I have seen a good friend utterly destroy himself using those slot machine games on apps and I guess that is how children are becoming hooked too.

As I said, I think there is something very wrong with the industry but I can't really put my finger on why.

Motspur Park

Quote from: MartyFFC on September 24, 2021, 03:23:28 PM
No different to insurance companies, anyone paying insurance is essentially gambling money on a specific outcome. Though having your phone stolen isn't perhaps quite as enjoyable as lumping an Ayrton Senna on Mitrovic bagging the first goal

Agree with most of your posts but not this one. I regard insurance as a protection issue in case of an event arising. I don't want to use it but it is there just in case. For me it is not a gamble to have insurance, but vice versa may be true.


Somerset Fulham

With insurance there is an element of gambling to it but the gambles are made by the actuaries who calculate when you are likely to die etc. 

Motspur Park

Quote from: Somerset Fulham on September 24, 2021, 06:06:06 PM
With insurance there is an element of gambling to it but the gambles are made by the actuaries who calculate when you are likely to die etc.
Agreed but there are all sorts of insurances. I have health insurance but it I hope I don't have to use it. House insurance ditto but they are the ones gambling (hoping I don't have a serious illness or my house burns down).