I'm not against security checks but the latest measures do make me scratch my head a tad.
To get into the Riverside I was asked to show my pass twice before getting into the queue . My wife had her small bag checked and was electronically searched - whilst I was padded down . We then obviously had to get our passes out again to go throughout the turnstile.
Where will this end ?
Perhaps we should have to show our passports which might help as the crowds of " tourists " would have to join a separate line.
Our American friends would have to fill in a visa waiver form and agree to inspection of their social media account.
When I got to my seat I was surprised not to find a seat belt ( to stop me standing ina seating only area) - and fully expected the stewards to point out the one exit and how we would all get out in case of an emergency. This is especially important as so many "supporters" don't have a clue where they are and block the exit whilst taking the obligatory selfie.
On a final note - please own up if you are the gentleman who was wearing a Fulham shirt with " Mr Bishop " on the back
Fantastic ! You made me smile so much - thank you.
Don't go giving the club and their overeager Health and Safety and security teams ideas!
Everyone's trying to justify their jobs, which often comes with overthinking/overdoing things as a natural 'progression'..
It's a shame the riverside was soo poorly designed that people have to queue as much as they do now. The amount of turnstiles they created to service the riverside is slightly laughable.. someone really didn't think about how fans get into a stadium at all when.. designing a football stadium.
Quote from: HV71 on May 11, 2026, 10:13:49 AMI'm not against security checks but the latest measures do make me scratch my head a tad.
To get into the Riverside I was asked to show my pass twice before getting into the queue . My wife had her small bag checked and was electronically searched - whilst I was padded down . We then obviously had to get our passes out again to go throughout the turnstile.
Where will this end ?
Perhaps we should have to show our passports which might help as the crowds of " tourists " would have to join a separate line.
Our American friends would have to fill in a visa waiver form and agree to inspection of their social media account.
When I got to my seat I was surprised not to find a seat belt ( to stop me standing ina seating only area) - and fully expected the stewards to point out the one exit and how we would all get out in case of an emergency. This is especially important as so many "supporters" don't have a clue where they are and block the exit whilst taking the obligatory selfie.
On a final note - please own up if you are the gentleman who was wearing a Fulham shirt with " Mr Bishop " on the back
Fantastic ! You made me smile so much - thank you.
that has to be the stupid comment of the week! do you ever watch the news? ever heard of Heightened terrorist threat that all -public venues have to abide by?
It's not a stupid comment because the queues at the Riverside Putney end were very frustrating
At least set up a wider entrance for the "security checks" and then funnel into the turnstile area
Or put in metal detectors at the turnstiles like entering an American public building
Quote from: epsomraver on May 11, 2026, 10:57:07 AMQuote from: HV71 on May 11, 2026, 10:13:49 AMI'm not against security checks but the latest measures do make me scratch my head a tad.
To get into the Riverside I was asked to show my pass twice before getting into the queue . My wife had her small bag checked and was electronically searched - whilst I was padded down . We then obviously had to get our passes out again to go throughout the turnstile.
Where will this end ?
Perhaps we should have to show our passports which might help as the crowds of " tourists " would have to join a separate line.
Our American friends would have to fill in a visa waiver form and agree to inspection of their social media account.
When I got to my seat I was surprised not to find a seat belt ( to stop me standing ina seating only area) - and fully expected the stewards to point out the one exit and how we would all get out in case of an emergency. This is especially important as so many "supporters" don't have a clue where they are and block the exit whilst taking the obligatory selfie.
On a final note - please own up if you are the gentleman who was wearing a Fulham shirt with " Mr Bishop " on the back
Fantastic ! You made me smile so much - thank you.
that has to be the stupid comment of the week! do you ever watch the news? ever heard of Heightened terrorist threat that all -public venues have to abide by?
Allowing for mass queues is probably one way of reducing a target group or area?
Quote from: epsomraver on May 11, 2026, 10:57:07 AMQuote from: HV71 on May 11, 2026, 10:13:49 AMI'm not against security checks but the latest measures do make me scratch my head a tad.
To get into the Riverside I was asked to show my pass twice before getting into the queue . My wife had her small bag checked and was electronically searched - whilst I was padded down . We then obviously had to get our passes out again to go throughout the turnstile.
Where will this end ?
Perhaps we should have to show our passports which might help as the crowds of " tourists " would have to join a separate line.
Our American friends would have to fill in a visa waiver form and agree to inspection of their social media account.
When I got to my seat I was surprised not to find a seat belt ( to stop me standing ina seating only area) - and fully expected the stewards to point out the one exit and how we would all get out in case of an emergency. This is especially important as so many "supporters" don't have a clue where they are and block the exit whilst taking the obligatory selfie.
On a final note - please own up if you are the gentleman who was wearing a Fulham shirt with " Mr Bishop " on the back
Fantastic ! You made me smile so much - thank you.
that has to be the stupid comment of the week! do you ever watch the news? ever heard of Heightened terrorist threat that all -public venues have to abide by?
My comments were a little tongue in cheek and I did start my post by saying I do get security checks. However , I was questioning why I had to show my pass twice before even getting to the turnstiles. As someone who attends theatres regularly I have never seen a situation where everyone was searched- unless they went through a scanner. As Bazab and General have pointed out the set up is inadequate - if it's about cost etc then may I dare to question the cost efficiency of having a swimming pool and not improved security access ?
Given that so many of the people there are tourists this means there is a lot of understandable dithering and lack of understanding as to what they are doing and where they are - increasing the need for a more efficient system - with more lines of access.
My other comments were a bit of a "dig " at the design of the stand and its emphasis on the corporate side. In the event of an emergency I cannot see how , in the panic that would undoubtedly ensue , that a safe evacuation could take place with so many people attempting to get out of the one staircase . If it takes 15 minutes to get out after the final whistle ( with people holding back ) I do genuinely fear for what would happen in a real emergency
Some checks is important, some isn't. ::cry:: ::cool::
Quote from: HV71 on May 11, 2026, 10:13:49 AMI'm not against security checks but the latest measures do make me scratch my head a tad.
To get into the Riverside I was asked to show my pass twice before getting into the queue . My wife had her small bag checked and was electronically searched - whilst I was padded down . We then obviously had to get our passes out again to go throughout the turnstile.
Where will this end ?
Perhaps we should have to show our passports which might help as the crowds of " tourists " would have to join a separate line.
Our American friends would have to fill in a visa waiver form and agree to inspection of their social media account.
When I got to my seat I was surprised not to find a seat belt ( to stop me standing ina seating only area) - and fully expected the stewards to point out the one exit and how we would all get out in case of an emergency. This is especially important as so many "supporters" don't have a clue where they are and block the exit whilst taking the obligatory selfie.
On a final note - please own up if you are the gentleman who was wearing a Fulham shirt with " Mr Bishop " on the back
Fantastic ! You made me smile so much - thank you.
Got to Riverside Stand at about 2.15 and it took probably 30 seconds to a minute longer than our normal small bag search on match days. What the fuss about.
This has come out of the Manchester Arena bombing and large venues (like CC) are required to put in place enhanced security measures.
That said, you either enforce enhanced security measures or you dont. My impression from Saturday was that the measures were pretty lightweight.
I have a medical exemption certificate from the club which allows me to bring a slightly larger than allowed bag in the ground. This contains medical supplies which I might need during the game. While I was given a light pat down, the bag was not searched. It was looked into but not searched.
Now it may be that FFC security are well trained in assessing risk and took one look at me (white male, past state pension age with a medical certificate from the club) and took an informed guess that I was not a threat to safety inside the ground and that the bag they did not search had nothing dangerous in it.
On the other hand, as I said above, you either enforce enhanced security measures (search everyone properly, have sniffer dogs, have airport style scanners) or you don't. I felt that Saturday showed a light security touch and didn't give much reassurance.
Quote from: HV71 on May 11, 2026, 10:13:49 AMI'm not against security checks but the latest measures do make me scratch my head a tad.
To get into the Riverside I was asked to show my pass twice before getting into the queue . My wife had her small bag checked and was electronically searched - whilst I was padded down . We then obviously had to get our passes out again to go throughout the turnstile.
Where will this end ?
Perhaps we should have to show our passports which might help as the crowds of " tourists " would have to join a separate line.
Our American friends would have to fill in a visa waiver form and agree to inspection of their social media account.
When I got to my seat I was surprised not to find a seat belt ( to stop me standing ina seating only area) - and fully expected the stewards to point out the one exit and how we would all get out in case of an emergency. This is especially important as so many "supporters" don't have a clue where they are and block the exit whilst taking the obligatory selfie.
On a final note - please own up if you are the gentleman who was wearing a Fulham shirt with " Mr Bishop " on the back
Fantastic ! You made me smile so much - thank you.
I believe that the new Security Checks commenced after the day you brought that Bazooka into the ground.
Can kids be patted down by security or are they not allowed to do it
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 11, 2026, 01:50:16 PMQuote from: HV71 on May 11, 2026, 10:13:49 AMI'm not against security checks but the latest measures do make me scratch my head a tad.
To get into the Riverside I was asked to show my pass twice before getting into the queue . My wife had her small bag checked and was electronically searched - whilst I was padded down . We then obviously had to get our passes out again to go throughout the turnstile.
Where will this end ?
Perhaps we should have to show our passports which might help as the crowds of " tourists " would have to join a separate line.
Our American friends would have to fill in a visa waiver form and agree to inspection of their social media account.
When I got to my seat I was surprised not to find a seat belt ( to stop me standing ina seating only area) - and fully expected the stewards to point out the one exit and how we would all get out in case of an emergency. This is especially important as so many "supporters" don't have a clue where they are and block the exit whilst taking the obligatory selfie.
On a final note - please own up if you are the gentleman who was wearing a Fulham shirt with " Mr Bishop " on the back
Fantastic ! You made me smile so much - thank you.
I believe that the new Security Checks commenced after the day you brought that Bazooka into the ground.
I believe that given my age and tendency to break wind I am a walking FfC UXB .
What was meant to be rather an innocent, mildly serious and slightly satirical post has certainly put the wind up a few on here.
It was ever thus I suppose
Quote from: RAY Rock on May 11, 2026, 01:56:27 PMCan kids be patted down by security or are they not allowed to do it
A father and small child were immediately ahead of me in the queue, the child was not patted down.
How far does it all go until it becomes way over the top?
I wasflying back from Lisbon last Sunday and had a deodorant thrown away because it was 150m instead of the permitted 100. Now I'm not arguing that they were wrong to bin it, but what are you going to do with a 150m spray deodorant that you cant do with one that's 100m?
There are times when common sense should prevail
Quote from: blingo on May 11, 2026, 02:25:28 PMHow far does it all go until it becomes way over the top?
I wasflying back from Lisbon last Sunday and had a deodorant thrown away because it was 150m instead of the permitted 100. Now I'm not arguing that they were wrong to bin it, but what are you going to do with a 150m spray deodorant that you cant do with one that's 100m?
There are times when common sense should prevail
Quote from: Baszab on May 11, 2026, 11:00:54 AMIt's not a stupid comment because the queues at the Riverside Putney end were very frustrating
At least set up a wider entrance for the "security checks" and then funnel into the turnstile area
Or put in metal detectors at the turnstiles like entering an American public building
Get there earlier as the club asked
Quote from: blingo on May 11, 2026, 02:26:21 PMQuote from: blingo on May 11, 2026, 02:25:28 PMHow far does it all go until it becomes way over the top?
I wasflying back from Lisbon last Sunday and had a deodorant thrown away because it was 150m instead of the permitted 100. Now I'm not arguing that they were wrong to bin it, but what are you going to do with a 150m spray deodorant that you cant do with one that's 100m?
There are times when common sense should prevail
put in your suitcase, there has to be limits and you were 50% over that limit,
Quote from: Carborundum on May 11, 2026, 02:16:58 PMQuote from: RAY Rock on May 11, 2026, 01:56:27 PMCan kids be patted down by security or are they not allowed to do it
A father and small child were immediately ahead of me in the queue, the child was not patted down.
nor was I, the bloke asked where keys and phone were, waved the wand and in we went, people died in Manchester due to slack security so stop moaning because you were slightly inconvenienced
Quote from: _Putney_ on May 11, 2026, 12:36:15 PMSome checks is important, some isn't. ::cry:: ::cool::
so who decides? what ever they do someone will moan
Quote from: blingo on May 11, 2026, 02:25:28 PMHow far does it all go until it becomes way over the top?
I wasflying back from Lisbon last Sunday and had a deodorant thrown away because it was 150m instead of the permitted 100. Now I'm not arguing that they were wrong to bin it, but what are you going to do with a 150m spray deodorant that you cant do with one that's 100m?
There are times when common sense should prevail
If it was Lynx deodorant then that's a weapon of mass seduction
Or it could have been Brut force
Quote from: epsomraver on May 11, 2026, 02:43:53 PMQuote from: Carborundum on May 11, 2026, 02:16:58 PMQuote from: RAY Rock on May 11, 2026, 01:56:27 PMCan kids be patted down by security or are they not allowed to do it
A father and small child were immediately ahead of me in the queue, the child was not patted down.
nor was I, the bloke asked where keys and phone were, waved the wand and in we went, people died in Manchester due to slack security so stop moaning because you were slightly inconvenienced
I thought Ray asked a straightforward question, one that I happened to have an answer to. Not clear how either of us have moaned about inconvenience. Nor indeed have we tried to commandeer the moral high ground, as it so happens. That would be rather tiresome.
Quote from: Carborundum on May 11, 2026, 02:16:58 PMQuote from: RAY Rock on May 11, 2026, 01:56:27 PMCan kids be patted down by security or are they not allowed to do it
A father and small child were immediately ahead of me in the queue, the child was not patted down.
My grandson was not patted down and was free to walk in. As Ludlow said it took an extra 30 secs at most for the three of us
Quote from: SG on May 11, 2026, 04:45:43 PMQuote from: Carborundum on May 11, 2026, 02:16:58 PMQuote from: RAY Rock on May 11, 2026, 01:56:27 PMCan kids be patted down by security or are they not allowed to do it
A father and small child were immediately ahead of me in the queue, the child was not patted down.
My grandson was not patted down and was free to walk in. As Ludlow said it took an extra 30 secs at most for the three of us
I have no knowledge of the checks but wonder if kids entering the away end are searched for pyros etc?
I'm all for it.. it's such a shame society has devalued into this need due to mad idiots hell bent on causing mayhem and destruction.
I'm happy to be searched and patted down if it meant safety first.
My understanding from a friend, and due to my work role, is that children cannot be patted down nor stopped for a search, unless it's done by law enforcement. I stand to be corrected however.
I have been to every away game this season and until last weekend we were possibly the most lax, definitely in the lower quartile, in our entry searches. Possibly because of effectively having one 1-side of the stadium, from the Stevenage Road, to enter 4x stands.
Yes, I know we now have Riverside entrances for the new stand but congestion on Stevenage Road must have been a H&S consideration -v- security risk.
It seems that we are now coming into line with the rest of the stadiums and maybe this was a directive enforced on the Club and they have had to find a way to make it as easy as possible.
Ironically as I was walking through the Hammy concourse I spotted a fan in a Bournemouth shirt looking lost, I asked him if he knew where he was and he said I take it this is a home fans section, I checked his ticket and it was for the away end so asked how he got into the ground, he actually just walk in unchecked via the Hammyend exit gate in Stevange road which was open!! So much for security checks🙈
It was my experience that I did not recognise a single person conducting security, manning the turnstile, or showing people to their seats.
The queses for people coming at a reasonable time were ridiculously long, that is an observation.
I think having a stable team of people working at the ground and knowing who is who would be a big step to enhanced security. Changing the whole lot, is that for a single game or are these people going to be the new normal? It matters because changing the whole team makes for a less friendly match experience.
I would love to see a different queuing system and segregation. Season ticket holders should have their own lines whilst matchday tickets ( often tourists ) would have a separate one. Matchday tickets could coloured and differentiated ( like in the cup) and if they were say green the line would say green tickets. This would mean season ticket holders ( who tend to know where they are and what they are doing ) would not be held up by groups that understandably haven't a clue.
My experience on Saturday wasn't great as it was chaos due to a large group in front of me who were lost and confused by the procedures.
I moved to the Putney end this season but was in Riverside last. Never really noticed the que being anything worse than anywhere else in the ground. They have random weeks they do more aggressive searches that take longer but I got an email and text we'll in advanced.
You wait until the last minute at any stand and you'll miss kick-off. We're talking about showing up 10 minutes earlier not 30+ minutes. I've heard people complain about this and literally never had an issue in any stand in all my years going to CC.
Have I missed a kickoff? Yes, cause I showed up to the ground 5 minutes before kick off and that was when I sat in JH.
Don't get it, people wine about anything.
It isn't whining ! It's about trying to think what can be improved for the paying customer ( just like the Hammy loos)
Just for your info I turned up 35 minutes before kick off and experienced chaos.
It will improve if everyone knows what to expect but when you get huge numbers of first timers then it will not
That is the reality of our customer profile - if that is what the owners want then it is their business and they can do what they please - but they should make provisions that cater for this.
I turned up a bit earlier than usual and found getting into the Hammy End was a breeze. No problem whatsoever. The only difference I noticed was a separate queue and a small table for those with bags.
Quote from: epsomraver on May 11, 2026, 02:40:36 PMQuote from: blingo on May 11, 2026, 02:26:21 PMQuote from: blingo on May 11, 2026, 02:25:28 PMHow far does it all go until it becomes way over the top?
I wasflying back from Lisbon last Sunday and had a deodorant thrown away because it was 150m instead of the permitted 100. Now I'm not arguing that they were wrong to bin it, but what are you going to do with a 150m spray deodorant that you cant do with one that's 100m?
There are times when common sense should prevail
put in your suitcase, there has to be limits and you were 50% over that limit,
The offending article was in cabin baggage and was probably 50% full so although the can said 150 there was probably 75ml in it. I walked thru agp with no problem at all. Like i said, common sense should be applied.
I didn't notice any women being patted down - or women doing the patting down.
What exactly are they looking for in the search and what do they do if they do find something that would or could create a serious safety problem?
Quote from: blingo on May 12, 2026, 06:58:59 PMWhat exactly are they looking for in the search and what do they do if they do find something that would or could create a serious safety problem?
you really have to ask? try weapons pyros, explosives for starters
Quote from: blingo on May 12, 2026, 06:58:59 PMWhat exactly are they looking for in the search and what do they do if they do find something that would or could create a serious safety problem?
When the Brentford stewards were checking FFC wallets last season, the same question was asked. The answer, I don't know but I'll know if I find it!
Quote from: epsomraver on May 12, 2026, 07:49:22 PMQuote from: blingo on May 12, 2026, 06:58:59 PMWhat exactly are they looking for in the search and what do they do if they do find something that would or could create a serious safety problem?
you really have to ask? try weapons pyros, explosives for starters
Pyros yes, but these days I expect it's recreational drugs.
Quote from: blingo on May 12, 2026, 06:58:59 PMWhat exactly are they looking for in the search and what do they do if they do find something that would or could create a serious safety problem?
They are looking for anything that could be an attacking threat. It is clearly working as none have been witnessed in the last few matches
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 11, 2026, 01:50:16 PMQuote from: HV71 on May 11, 2026, 10:13:49 AMI'm not against security checks but the latest measures do make me scratch my head a tad.
To get into the Riverside I was asked to show my pass twice before getting into the queue . My wife had her small bag checked and was electronically searched - whilst I was padded down . We then obviously had to get our passes out again to go throughout the turnstile.
Where will this end ?
Perhaps we should have to show our passports which might help as the crowds of " tourists " would have to join a separate line.
Our American friends would have to fill in a visa waiver form and agree to inspection of their social media account.
When I got to my seat I was surprised not to find a seat belt ( to stop me standing ina seating only area) - and fully expected the stewards to point out the one exit and how we would all get out in case of an emergency. This is especially important as so many "supporters" don't have a clue where they are and block the exit whilst taking the obligatory selfie.
On a final note - please own up if you are the gentleman who was wearing a Fulham shirt with " Mr Bishop " on the back
Fantastic ! You made me smile so much - thank you.
I believe that the new Security Checks commenced after the day you brought that Bazooka into the ground.
Bubble gum is allowed
Quote from: epsomraver on May 12, 2026, 07:49:22 PMQuote from: blingo on May 12, 2026, 06:58:59 PMWhat exactly are they looking for in the search and what do they do if they do find something that would or could create a serious safety problem?
you really have to ask? try weapons pyros, explosives for starters
So what would they or could they do if they found any, blow a whistle?
To do it, you have to do it airport style, what is being done is not effective or secure enough.
Quote from: blingo on May 12, 2026, 11:09:33 PMQuote from: epsomraver on May 12, 2026, 07:49:22 PMQuote from: blingo on May 12, 2026, 06:58:59 PMWhat exactly are they looking for in the search and what do they do if they do find something that would or could create a serious safety problem?
you really have to ask? try weapons pyros, explosives for starters
So what would they or could they do if they found any, blow a whistle?
I would suggest it's more of a deterrent, knowing you will be searched might put people off trying to bring stuff in, and I'm sure they know what actions to take if something suspicious is found.