i don't care, anybody but jol. just let me know
It has to be Malky. A manager that the players love and the fans love is essential, especially after the this lunatic. We need to get the love back in the cottage.
I think Khan should go billy big pockets and make a mad bid for Moyes. He's not going to be managing a decent premiership side anytime soon and could really boost his credibility if he got us promoted.
It's unlikely but stranger things have happened at Fulham.
Sherwood......was brilliant with the Spurs under 21's
Quote from: Luka on August 20, 2014, 11:31:28 PM
Sherwood......was brilliant with the Spurs under 21's
yes. i agree.
Moyes is a manager that I have a great respect for. He succeeded with a low budget team very well. He could do the same with us.
Course, you could say the same about Pulis.
Pulis
Quote from: Mokes on August 20, 2014, 11:25:11 PM
It has to be Malky. A manager that the players love and the fans love is essential, especially after the this lunatic. We need to get the love back in the cottage.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2730307/Malky-Mackay-Iain-Moody-investigated-FA-sexist-racist-homophobic-text-messages-time-Cardiff.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2730307/Malky-Mackay-Iain-Moody-investigated-FA-sexist-racist-homophobic-text-messages-time-Cardiff.html)
Not so sure about that...
And apologies for DM link.
Kit Symons.
Glenn Hoddle.
McKay ideal choice ......... But having read the allegations I hope he doesn't get a job in football again
Someone who's not going to play bingo every week and doesn't freeze players out for no apparent reason.
Sheer wood is one that should be considered, he is excellent with youth, and has the right credentials, and he is English.
anyone other than jol and pulis
is marcelo bielsa is still out of work likes a fit player
anyone in this forum probably would be better than FM
Woolly Mammoth
Moyes or Sherwood.
I was calling for Mackay, but I have just read his disgusting texts.... He would be nowhere near the top of my list now.
Sherwood would be good, as he has experience dealing with the younger players.
Kyt Symons would also be a decent shout having so much experience with our youngsters, but he lack's experience.
Roberto Di Matteo would also be very high on my list....
I withdraw my suggestions in other streams for Mackay after reading about his texts, etc. I accept the 'innocent until proven guilty " stance but we do not need that circus.
Go for Hughton or Sherwood
Quote from: Badger on August 21, 2014, 12:11:36 AM
anyone in this forum probably would be better than FM
not including me, of course
Quote from: HatterDon on August 21, 2014, 05:49:00 AM
Quote from: Badger on August 21, 2014, 12:11:36 AM
anyone in this forum probably would be better than FM
not including me, of course
You have a good eye for the game, from your match reports, so I would not rule yourself out yet HD....
Unless of course you pride yourself on picking number's out of a hat.... you are not a bingo caller are you ;)
for me i would rule out Jol for obvious reasons ;), Pulis because it would be neanderthal football and Alladyce and Harry because i just don't like them (they would not come any way).
i think the best 3 options right now are McKay (altho he helped in Cardiffs demise to a degree but he did well in the champ with them and watford i think it was), Sherwood (has a record of working with the youngsters altho his spurs youngsters were a limited team even though they had talent), HOddle (he is simply a players coach by all accounts wants them learning and playing properly, and no one seems to say anything bad about his coaching style or technique) and lastly Moyes (not my perfect choice but has woorkeds with limited budgets and has bought through some good young players in his time)
Steve Clarke is available.
Quote from: crazycottager on August 20, 2014, 11:07:43 PM
i don't care, anybody but jol. just let me know
Somebody not found by Ali Mac.
Manager wise I'd say Hoddle or Moyes. Either would be good.
I doubt Moyes would come as he might think he's too big for the Champ, but I can't see anyone offering him a job for a while as his end at Manure was so catastrophic. He prob doesn't need the money or the aggrp just yet either.
I like Sherwood's attitude but his tactics are shockingly naïve. Reminds me of Keegan at Newcastle. You score 4 but well score 5 etc etc. He would be good for out youngsters tho.
COYW!
Someone like Karl Robinson from MK Dons.
An up and coming manager with fresh ideas with Kit Symons or Chris Coleman as number 2.
Kit Symons. Looks like we are going to have to rely on a team made up mostly of our kids and Kit knows how to get the best out of them - and they know him. Anyone else and it is too much upheaval.
I suppose the only ones available are Moyes, Sherwood & Clarke. I am discounting Mackay for obvious reasons. I the interim I would promote Kit to 1st team assistant as he knows the kids.
Its not only the manager I`m worried about, Its the owners who scare me!
Mike Phelan and Rene Meulensteen.
Danny Murphy
I'll take that!!
Wow, just read the Malky texts. If they are proved legit, that's insane. That's some Donald Sterling s@#t. Righto, he's out. Shame as he would have been perfect.
I will jump on Roberto Di Matteo. If memory serves me correctly (which it often doesn't), he was the man behind West Brom that got west prom promoted first season in charge after they had just been relegated.
He's also won a champions league..
Dont get me wrong I like Danny Murphy, but why are so many so certain that a man with no managing history, would do any better with such a complete new team like us? 21 players out during summer, 6 from academy taken up to first team and then McCormack, Hutchinson, Voser, Hoogland, Stafylidis, brought in.
Pacience is running out for the fans I understand that, but if we brought in a new one now, who then wants to change everything again, who would it be, why Murphy, Murphy has no managing history on him, sure he can be good, and I would love it if he did at a team he took over, but would our current team in our current state be the right for us and him?
I would say give him a bit more time, and yes it is hard but who knows what time I actually will do, I would hate us to becomme the type of team that changes manager each 6 months cus that will deffinetly bring us to ruins.
WORST IDEA EVER ! what we need is a proper, British, experienced, no-nonsense, track-record manager. Not an ex-player, wonk. We have surely had enough of these erratic choices. Pulis, McCarthy, Holloway etc.
I've wanted Di Matteo since before Jol was sacked. Would be a brilliant acquisition.
Mcdermott all the way, reading were in a very similar situation to us before he took over
Danny Murphy please
Quote from: grandad on August 21, 2014, 08:59:06 AM
I suppose the only ones available are Moyes, Sherwood & Clarke. I am discounting Mackay for obvious reasons. I the interim I would promote Kit to 1st team assistant as he knows the kids.
I can't see Moyes dropping down yet, nor Sherwood who aspires to one of the soon to be vacant a premier seats on the back of last season results. Although Hoddle has turned down the Palace job as loyalty to Arry, he may consider our project with youth more attractive. But I would like to see Lee Clark here, cares about Fulham, believes in passing attacking game and has been picking youth players from premier clubs for the last 2 seasons to keep Birmingham afloat with no money, but again, although he was there last night can't see it happening, think Ali will bring in a big name foreigner again.
Sherwood wouldn't come to us, Hoddle turned down Palace to stay at QPR, Symons and Murphy don't have the experience we need, McKay ruled out for obvious reasons. Chris Hughton would be a good shout. Do hope Felix goes soon, things can only get worse under him. I was prepared to give him time but then last night was the first game I attended this season and feel he needs to go now - we were just dire.
We have to give this manager a fare run , we can't keep on and on changing but having said that I don't know how long for.
What happens if after the next two games we still have no points and have not scored another goal ?
I really think before the window closes money will have to be spent on a couple of proven players , in particular a midfield playmaker to play alongside Parker.
Moyes wouldn't come - he can sit and wait for a job he wants after his ManU pay off. Lee Clark hasn't done very well at Birmingham! They stayed up by the skin of their teeth last season.
I Like DM but not as manager yet, come in as assistant to the next guy. my choice would be Hoddle
Despite what we might feel about our prospects, it might not be too easy to attract a decent manager to a team languishing at the bottom of the Championship!
I think the squad and club needs Unity and i think danny would bring it. You say we only have 6 players plus the under 21s that's only because you have forgotten about all the player Felix has frozen out. Even if they want a move away im sure they will still play for us given the chance with a manager who is reasonable. I think felix has the right idea with his youth policy but I dont think they way he is doing it chopping and changing every will work.
Surprised noone has mentioned Eddie Howe - has worked miracles at Bournemouth and his stock is rising massively at the moment. Would be perfect for us but I suspect he'll be snapped up by a PL club soon.
Other options I'd consider:
Moyes (probably wouldnt come?)
Hughton
Clarke
McDermott
Sherwood (loose cannon?)
Hoddle (out of the game too long?)
Lennon (less than reputable character?)
Rene Meulensteen (would never come back)
Would be delighted with any of the above but Howe would be a steal.
add Zola to the list, did well with Watford.
Quote from: Willard on August 21, 2014, 09:03:04 AM
Mike Phelan and Rene Meulensteen.
I like that suggestion the most. Under RM Fulham played the BEST football in many years - he was slightly distracted by appointing the "wise-heads" of Curbishley and Wilkins, then got them on track just before he was dismissed (V Man.Utd & Liverpool).
Of course, admitting they got it wrong does not seem to be in the remit of Ali Mack, so the decision must come from
Khan himself. He should also dismiss AM of his duties, systematically ruining the club I have supported all these years.
I can't believe an American became a multi-billionaire by sheer luck, and yanks have a tough reputation in football.
If not RM then I would like Hoddle as his approach is similar to Fulham's style, with Danny Murphy working alongside.
Quote from: Pluto on August 21, 2014, 01:47:21 PM
Surprised noone has mentioned Eddie Howe - has worked miracles at Bournemouth and his stock is rising massively at the moment. Would be perfect for us but I suspect he'll be snapped up by a PL club soon.
Other options I'd consider:
Moyes (probably wouldnt come?)
Hughton
Clarke
McDermott
Sherwood (loose cannon?)
Hoddle (out of the game too long?)
Lennon (less than reputable character?)
Rene Meulensteen (would never come back)
Would be delighted with any of the above but Howe would be a steal.
Yeah agreed on howe he's done a fantastic job at Bournemouth. A future England manager one day. Not sure his Mrs would let him leave though when he was at Burnley she was so fed up she phoned the Bournemouth chairman and pleaded with him to put an offer in for him and bring him back.
Him aside I'm really not sure Mcleish would be realistic and would bring some much needed defensive solidity, hughton knows how to get out of the league. I'd probably go with promoting kit knows the youngsters and atleast we would for a long time have a manager to be proud of
Moyes has recently said that he wants to manage a team in the Champions League because he has recently had experience of that level. I think that rules us out.
Why do people think Rene would come back? This business is very ego driven, Ali Mac and Khan would not bring back Rene as it admits a mistake. I agree sacking him was a mistake, this thread may as well be taken down as we will have to wait at least another 5/6 games before Felix gets the chop in my opinion
Quote from: David Allen Crankshaw on August 21, 2014, 02:44:32 PM
Moyes has recently said that he wants to manage a team in the Champions League because he has recently had experience of that level. I think that rules us out.
Probably does rule a Championship side out.......for now. But really, what Champions League club is he planning on running? He's not going to get an English one. It's doubtful he'd be given a shot in any of the major continental leagues at a CL contender.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 21, 2014, 02:49:13 PM
Why do people think Rene would come back? This business is very ego driven, Ali Mac and Khan would not bring back Rene as it admits a mistake. I agree sacking him was a mistake, this thread may as well be taken down as we will have to wait at least another 5/6 games before Felix gets the chop in my opinion
And why would Rene come back even if they admitted a mistake? He couldn't possibly trust that his career would be safe at Fulham going forward.
That's what I didn't get when we sacked Rene Meulensteen.
I genuinely thought we bought him in with a view on this season and most likely championship football. If he did manage to save us then great, but we where sinking and in reality nothing would have saved us.
I think he would have been the right one for us, especially if we went down as we did. He will not come back after the mad house decisions of last season.
Would like Moyes aswell. However I am prepared to give FM a few more games before I start screaming Raus!
who should our new manager be if magath goes?
THE QUESTION SHOULD BE : Who would come ??????
Eddie Howe but if unwilling to poach another clubs manager ......Clark ex WBA not Brmingham
Given the strength in youth that we have, I would think it would be a great opportunity for someone like Moyes to re-establish his reputation in a manner similar to Roy at West Brom.
Me
Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 21, 2014, 01:40:00 PM
Moyes wouldn't come - he can sit and wait for a job he wants after his ManU pay off. Lee Clark hasn't done very well at Birmingham! They stayed up by the skin of their teeth last season.
Because they had no money, Owner in Jail and talk about club closing down all season. he had very few players so he put together a team of youth loanees, who kept being recalled, not only did he lose Burn he lost his centre half partner and a full back all recalled. He has done sort of the same this season starting better than us. Also did a great job at Huddersfield prior to going to Birmingham and cares about Fulham