its done
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! mental signing....
I'm good with this signing. If he is better than the youngsters, he will start, if he is not, he won't, but he has experience and they don't so he can only help in my mind.
We have been. 'Done' I mean.
Another crap signing.
Quote from: RidgeRider on August 28, 2014, 03:14:04 PM
I'm good with this signing. If he is better than the youngsters, he will start, if he is not, he won't, but he has experience and they don't so he can only help in my mind.
When you consider that Stockdale has essentially been replaced by this guy then then is no way I can ever be pleased by this. The guy looks fat and old on the official Fulham photo.
penny pinching at its finest is what it is.
"He will be an important addition to our squad for this current season and he will also be able to assist our two young goalkeepers with their continued development and progression in our First Team."
I like the opening line, "confirmed the signing"...normally it's "Fulham are delighted to announce the signing of" , even they know it's a joke.
wow another signing no one saw coming how do we keep things so quiet
Quote from: jelmo on August 28, 2014, 03:16:27 PM
Quote from: RidgeRider on August 28, 2014, 03:14:04 PM
I'm good with this signing. If he is better than the youngsters, he will start, if he is not, he won't, but he has experience and they don't so he can only help in my mind.
When you consider that Stockdale has essentially been replaced by this guy then then is no way I can ever be pleased by this. The guy looks fat and old on the official Fulham photo.
penny pinching at its finest is what it is.
unlike stockdale who always looked fat and young
Still, only 3 days to go to bring in the players that we really crave. At least the goalkeeping situation has been sorted.
I never thought of Magath as an antiques dealer before but thirty-eight.......?????... The championship is fast and competitive and perhaps he doesn't realise that yet.
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Quote from: jelmo on August 28, 2014, 03:16:27 PM
Quote from: RidgeRider on August 28, 2014, 03:14:04 PM
I'm good with this signing. If he is better than the youngsters, he will start, if he is not, he won't, but he has experience and they don't so he can only help in my mind.
When you consider that Stockdale has essentially been replaced by this guy then then is no way I can ever be pleased by this. The guy looks fat and old on the official Fulham photo.
penny pinching at its finest is what it is.
unlike stockdale who always looked fat and young
Given the choice of the 2 I'd know what I would prefer... Fat and old obviously.
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Quote from: RidgeRider on August 28, 2014, 03:14:04 PM
I'm good with this signing. If he is better than the youngsters, he will start, if he is not, he won't, but he has experience and they don't so he can only help in my mind.
When you consider that Stockdale has essentially been replaced by this guy then then is no way I can ever be pleased by this. The guy looks fat and old on the official Fulham photo.
penny pinching at its finest is what it is.
unlike stockdale who always looked fat and young
Given the choice of the 2 I'd know what I would prefer... Fat and old obviously.
to be fair to Felix everyone said they wanted an experienced keeper and thats what he s got, no one mentioned that he had to be any good
If he's been brought in to be first choice its ridiculous but otherwise he should be a decent mentor to JJ and Bettinelli. Interestingly this is the most expensive transfer of his career!!
Quote from: zander on August 28, 2014, 03:37:46 PM
If he's been brought in to be first choice its ridiculous but otherwise he should be a decent mentor to JJ and Betenelli. Interestingly this is the most expensive transfer of his career!!
Could have just got a goal-keeping coach in.
Or got Shwartzer back if we are going for the older keeper.
The fotheringham of keepers arrives, so underwhelmed. Get rid of our two first choice and then bring in a keeper that plays in his pyjama bottoms. He better be back up and not first choice
God this is a terrible signing. Why didn't we just keep Stockdale? I am underwhelmed by our business in this transfer market - it is like having Sanchez back!
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Quote from: zander on August 28, 2014, 03:37:46 PM
If he's been brought in to be first choice its ridiculous but otherwise he should be a decent mentor to JJ and Betenelli. Interestingly this is the most expensive transfer of his career!!
Could have just got a goal-keeping coach in.
Or got Shwartzer back if we are going for the older keeper.
I agree. I'm pretty underwhelmed with the move but his experience for the youngsters is the only positive if any.
He's been give the No 1 shirt (source: http://www.fulhamfc.com/first-team/player-profiles (http://www.fulhamfc.com/first-team/player-profiles))
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He must be absolutely laughing his balls off. Thought his career was in decline and pretty much over, like Fotheringham and most of the others we've picked up for free, and then along comes our Circus and offer him a lifeline.
But don't forget this guy can also double up as a groundsman.
Who will our next joke signing be? I hear heskey is looking for a team
To think we replaced Stockdale with Kiraly makes me so angry.... My opinion of Khan is changing by the day, this team needs investment, and he is going after freebies who bring Nothing to our squad.
So sick of being a Fulham fan at the moment... The circus continues
Quote from: Dragoman on August 28, 2014, 03:55:45 PM
But don't forget this guy can also double up as a groundsman.
In all seriousness though... This must be a joke signing.
Good ol' Felix likes a laugh.
After the club delivers the punchline we will find that Magath has really signed a gem from one of the German Leagues!
Magath continues hes madness, just wait, soon we have signed Marlet for hes experience as well!!
I was mortified when we were being linked with Bogdan to replace Stockdale... I would take him now
My only hope is Bettenelli ( who I have been calling for all season ) gets his chance, and keeps Kiraly out.... Even if he has a motm performance, I can see him being dropped.
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on August 28, 2014, 03:59:16 PM
To think we replaced Stockdale with Kiraly makes me so angry.... My opinion of Khan is changing by the day, this team needs investment, and he is going after freebies who bring Nothing to our squad.
So sick of being a Fulham fan at the moment... The circus continues
Our transfers this summer have been poor but is that necessarily Khans fault. He obviously doesn't know a lot about football and even if he did a chairman shouldn't have an input on transfers except for the money. So he may have made a sizeable amount of money available but Magath and Ali Mac are just useless at recruitment.
However if as you say its a case of Khan not allowing more money to spent then its infuriating and frustrating. Whatever the case is the club is clearly in a mess and lacks any clear direction.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 28, 2014, 03:57:29 PM
Who will our next joke signing be? I hear heskey is looking for a team
Please don't even joke about this Westcliffe!
I'm normally one to say "let's not pre-judge, lets welcome them to the club, see them play, and then judge".
Just wondering whether I maintain my consistency here.
First off.... he wears baggy pants.... so what... lots of goalkeepers wore pants in the 80s and 90s....
secondly 38 is not terribly old for a GK.... several still playing past this date who are very good...
I hope he comes and acts professional, does his job when called upon and trains hard with the young GKs we have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uelObdkeQc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uelObdkeQc)
Ive got to the point where I dont expect anything better than this. Im not even bothered by being a struggling championship side either, its just very draining and sad to see what a shambles we are. The way the club is being run is quite scary at the moment.
Maybe this kiraly will be decent and surprise us but until I see him ill reserve judgement. Like I said at the moment im not happy or sad at this signing, I just dont feel anything. Couldnt really care less, ill turn up and suppprt the team each week but im tired of stressing over this managers decisions. At the end of the day he does what he wants amd I cant change that, cant see anyone with any respect for themselves or their career signing for magath after all the stories. Just journeymen and hopeless nobodies. But thats magaths problem not ours
I'm OK with this, because any money we lose in wages, we will more than likely make up for in sales of Fulham branded tracksuit bottoms
I am sure he is fine but this sort of signing is not what we were lead to believe would happen when the club talked about promotion and bought the Leeds striker. Good luck to him. But Fulham you really must stop acting as if there is any plan in this madness.
You don't give money to a manager who is about to be sacked.
Quote from: SouthWest6 on August 28, 2014, 03:29:01 PM
Still, only 3 days to go to bring in the players that we really crave. At least the goalkeeping situation has been sorted.
i hope thats a sarcastic post.
if we were heading towards this 38 yo gk, why did we let schwarz go, or is that too much of a sensible question.
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Quote from: RidgeRider on August 28, 2014, 03:14:04 PM
I'm good with this signing. If he is better than the youngsters, he will start, if he is not, he won't, but he has experience and they don't so he can only help in my mind.
When you consider that Stockdale has essentially been replaced by this guy then then is no way I can ever be pleased by this. The guy looks fat and old on the official Fulham photo.
penny pinching at its finest is what it is.
unlike stockdale who always looked fat and young
Ha. Seriously.
Well he's been given the no1 shirt...
Looks like the debate regarding Bettinelli and Joronen is over. Shame, as I had hoped we'd see more of Bettinelli - I hope he gets used for cup games and Joronen goes out on loan to help him develop..
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 28, 2014, 04:51:03 PM
Well he's been given the no1 shirt...
Looks like the debate regarding Bettinelli and Joronen is over. Shame, as I had hoped we'd see more of Bettinelli - I hope he gets used for cup games and Joronen goes out on loan to help him develop..
Why? Maybe a number is just a number. Is McCormack playing sparingly because he wears #44 and not #9?
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 28, 2014, 04:51:03 PM
Well he's been given the no1 shirt...
Looks like the debate regarding Bettinelli and Joronen is over. Shame, as I had hoped we'd see more of Bettinelli - I hope he gets used for cup games and Joronen goes out on loan to help him develop..
It's just a squad number that was given up by Stekelenburg I believe, no relevance to him being no.1 what so ever.
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Quote from: Craven Mad on August 28, 2014, 04:51:03 PM
Well he's been given the no1 shirt...
Looks like the debate regarding Bettinelli and Joronen is over. Shame, as I had hoped we'd see more of Bettinelli - I hope he gets used for cup games and Joronen goes out on loan to help him develop..
It's just a squad number that was given up by Stekelenburg I believe, no relevance to him being no.1 what so ever.
Its a bit different with a goalie to the rest of the squad. Number 1 is almost always the number 1. I dont think ive ever seen a keeper with the squad number 1 start off as the number 2. Maybe half way through they are dropped like stek was but its very unlikely that the number 1 wont start off that way.
I just cannot believe this, how can we justify selling a promotion winning keeper in Stockdale (coming into his prime) for in modern footballing terms peanuts and replacing him with a 38 yr old keeper who was second choice in a german second division side. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!
Nothing against Kiraly but even the most blind person can see that this doesnt add up.
Wait a minute, Bettinelli played 1, goals conceded 0. Obviously we can't let that continue ,something desperate had to be done.
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Quote from: Craven Mad on August 28, 2014, 04:51:03 PM
Well he's been given the no1 shirt...
Looks like the debate regarding Bettinelli and Joronen is over. Shame, as I had hoped we'd see more of Bettinelli - I hope he gets used for cup games and Joronen goes out on loan to help him develop..
It's just a squad number that was given up by Stekelenburg I believe, no relevance to him being no.1 what so ever.
Its a bit different with a goalie to the rest of the squad. Number 1 is almost always the number 1. I dont think ive ever seen a keeper with the squad number 1 start off as the number 2. Maybe half way through they are dropped like stek was but its very unlikely that the number 1 wont start off that way.
Right, but then if Jorenen is number 22 say, and he is currently playing every game as our number 1 (in goal that is) they are not going to swap his squad number 22 to number 1, it doesn't work like that. Stekelenburg was registered as no.1, he left, leaving that number free for granddad to take. It still doesn't mean he will be our No.1 choice.
Quote from: Yamus on August 28, 2014, 04:41:00 PM
You don't give money to a manager who is about to be sacked.
No? Ask RM.
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Quote from: Craven Mad on August 28, 2014, 04:51:03 PM
Well he's been given the no1 shirt...
Looks like the debate regarding Bettinelli and Joronen is over. Shame, as I had hoped we'd see more of Bettinelli - I hope he gets used for cup games and Joronen goes out on loan to help him develop..
It's just a squad number that was given up by Stekelenburg I believe, no relevance to him being no.1 what so ever.
Its a bit different with a goalie to the rest of the squad. Number 1 is almost always the number 1. I dont think ive ever seen a keeper with the squad number 1 start off as the number 2. Maybe half way through they are dropped like stek was but its very unlikely that the number 1 wont start off that way.
Right, but then if Jorenen is number 22 say, and he is currently playing every game as our number 1 (in goal that is) they are not going to swap his squad number 22 to number 1, it doesn't work like that. Stekelenburg was registered as no.1, he left, leaving that number free for granddad to take. It still doesn't mean he will be our No.1 choice.
Well you've got a point there, I did say its very unusual for it to happen but this is fulham so I wont be surprised.
The writing was on the wall from the wba game when stek made that mistake, im surprised it.took this long but he was always gonna leave. I assumed they gave him the number 1 shirt (knowing he was leaving) to reserve it for a new keeper. I very much doubt magath ever intended jorenen to be the long term number 1 and I think hes proved he is no where near good enough. We will see saturday who is number 1 amd to be honest bettineli looked very accomplished at brentford. He looked very mature and confident, Id stick with him over kiraly.
Kiralys picture on the fulham website scares me. He looks about 55 and over weight. Hes also a clown, very sceptical about.magaths choices in this window excluding mcormack and bodurov
Bettineli is the better of 2 keepers (Jorenon), just like Dan Burn is better than Hutchinson and Burgess, but for some reason, Magath has this air of arrogance about him that he feels he can play weaker players, and make them perform just as well. To me, it's the start of the season and he's still tinkering!!
We had 4 keepers who could not all be number one, we sold one but he was number 12, we then got rid of the one who was number 1 which left two keepers. The two already had numbers 40 and 41 as the were not choice one or two. The new keeper has been given the shirt number of the second one who left who was actually the number one a few months ago.
Simples
Quote from: SouthWest6 on August 28, 2014, 05:34:19 PM
Bettineli is the better of 2 keepers (Jorenon), just like Dan Burn is better than Hutchinson and Burgess, but for some reason, Magath has this air of arrogance about him that he feels he can play weaker players, and make them perform just as well. To me, it's the start of the season and he's still tinkering!!
Some people think thats to be expected after all the changes but for me.thats not good enough. We should of played friendlies against opposition similar to the top championship level rather than crawley town and motherwell. That way he could of decided what players were.mature enough or good enough to play at this level which would of helped him pick his best team. Tinkering 5 games into the season is very poor on magaths part regardless of all the changes.
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 28, 2014, 05:39:41 PM
We had 4 keepers who could not all be number one, we sold one but he was number 12, we then got rid of the one who was number 1 which left two keepers. The two already had numbers 40 and 41 as the were not choice one or two. The new keeper has been given the shirt number of the second one who left who was actually the number one a few months ago.
Simples
thanks for clearing that up alexander! No need to visit compare the keeper.com now
Was talking to a Palace fan today who described him as, firstly, completely bonkers and secondly prone to both great games and really really poor games.
Sounds perfect for us, lol.
WHAT WAS WRONG WITH DAVID STOCKDALE!!!! :doh:
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Quote from: bog on August 28, 2014, 05:51:43 PM
WHAT WAS WRONG WITH DAVID STOCKDALE!!!! :doh:
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He was the number two that wore 12 and a lot of people wanted to be number one. The keeper that wore 1 had some poor games so became number two although he wore 1
Both keepers let in 5 or 6 so that was not going to help their chances of being Number 1
Not too bothered by this signing.
I can't see where its been said that he will be our first choice?
I would expect a first choice to have a contract for longer than one year.
It could be that he's been brought in as a number two with the idea to loan out Bettinelli so that he can get some experience because it makes no sense to have "a prospect" on the bench for the rest of the season.
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Quote from: Roberty on August 28, 2014, 07:00:46 PM
I can't see where its been said that he will be our first choice?
I would expect a first choice to have a contract for longer than one year.
It could be that he's been brought in as a number two with the idea to loan out Bettinelli so that he can get some experience because it makes no sense to have "a prospect" on the bench for the rest of the season.
I think quite a few of us, want bettinelli to be our number 1 now
I think it quite apt that he was born on April Fools Day..
Another statement of intent by the club. Why oh why did we let Stockdale go fp.gif
Seriously, Magath going on about the signing he was hoping to unveil by today was a 38 year old, past his sell by date, keeper. What actual hope is there that anyone else worthwhile is on the way in. Please let me be wrong.
First time I read about this, and saw his age, I was quite upset. But now I don't feel that way. There are reports that he is a good keeper. Keepers can play to 40 and not see a significant diminishment of reflexes. He's not the best looking guy in the world, in fact, he's a little homely. But you can't let that affect your view of him as a goalkeeper. He might be one tough animal of a goalkeeper, unafraid to leave his line when need be, unafraid to mix it up with contact. I like Stockdale a lot. But he's gone. And our other current goalies don't inspire much confidence. The club didn't have to pay that much for Kiraly, so I can't get all bent out of shape over this one. Maybe he starts for a while, and, well, we'll see. I assume he's Lithuanian or some other low country native, yes? Kiraly... There was a great American volleyball player named Karch Kiraly. He pronounced his last name Kur-eye, with the accent on the second syllable.
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Quote from: Artful Dodger on August 28, 2014, 07:13:24 PM
Another statement of intent by the club. Why oh why did we let Stockdale go fp.gif
Because he isn't very good?
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Quote from: Artful Dodger on August 28, 2014, 07:13:24 PM
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Because he isn't very good?
or, because he was worth some money. No matter how you look at it, we have considerably weakened our goal keeping options.
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Quote from: Artful Dodger on August 28, 2014, 07:13:24 PM
Another statement of intent by the club. Why oh why did we let Stockdale go fp.gif
Because he isn't very good?
or, because he was worth some money. No matter how you look at it, we have considerably weakened our goal keeping options.
Is that necessarily the case? Maybe the way the team looks at it is, we already know Stockdale is OK but nothing special, and maybe one of the younger guys could turn out to be better, so we've weakened ourselves a bit in the near term in order to have a chance at strengthening ourselves in the long term?
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Quote from: Artful Dodger on August 28, 2014, 07:13:24 PM
Another statement of intent by the club. Why oh why did we let Stockdale go fp.gif
Because he isn't very good?
or, because he was worth some money. No matter how you look at it, we have considerably weakened our goal keeping options.
Is that necessarily the case? Maybe the way the team looks at it is, we already know Stockdale is OK but nothing special, and maybe one of the younger guys could turn out to be better, so we've weakened ourselves a bit in the near term in order to have a chance at strengthening ourselves in the long term?
how though, the two boys were already here. And Stockdale was more than OK in this division as he had already won promotion from it.
Quote from: Artful Dodger on August 28, 2014, 07:13:24 PM
Another statement of intent by the club. Why oh why did we let Stockdale go fp.gif
If he'd stayed we would have run out of pies.
I fail to see how someone who never made it can be so badly missed - we have had a merry-go-round of managers - none bothered to pick him
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Quote from: Artful Dodger on August 28, 2014, 07:13:24 PM
Another statement of intent by the club. Why oh why did we let Stockdale go fp.gif
If he'd stayed we would have run out of pies.
I fail to see how someone who never made it can so badly missed - we have had a merry-go-round of managers - none bothered to pick him
The truth of the pudding is - Steve Bruce was not prepared to pay to keep him
I have no issue as long as hes number two. If he rotates, fine - loan out one of Bettinelli/Joronen.
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Quote from: Artful Dodger on August 28, 2014, 07:13:24 PM
Another statement of intent by the club. Why oh why did we let Stockdale go fp.gif
If he'd stayed we would have run out of pies.
I fail to see how someone who never made it can so badly missed - we have had a merry-go-round of managers - none bothered to pick him
The truth of the pudding is - Steve Bruce was not prepared to pay to keep him
he was on a long contract, and maybe they couldn't afford him. The truth of it is, none of the English teams wanted to keep our new keeper, even when they had him
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Quote from: Artful Dodger on August 28, 2014, 07:13:24 PM
Another statement of intent by the club. Why oh why did we let Stockdale go fp.gif
If he'd stayed we would have run out of pies.
I fail to see how someone who never made it can so badly missed - we have had a merry-go-round of managers - none bothered to pick him
The truth of the pudding is - Steve Bruce was not prepared to pay to keep him
he was on a long contract, and maybe they couldn't afford him. The truth of it is, none of the English teams wanted to keep our new keeper, even when they had him
Brighton didn't find it difficult to tempt him away.
Who says we want to keep him - he has a one year contract - I don't see that as a vote of confidence but it would let us loan one of the others out to get experience.
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Quote from: Artful Dodger on August 28, 2014, 07:13:24 PM
Another statement of intent by the club. Why oh why did we let Stockdale go fp.gif
If he'd stayed we would have run out of pies.
I fail to see how someone who never made it can so badly missed - we have had a merry-go-round of managers - none bothered to pick him
The truth of the pudding is - Steve Bruce was not prepared to pay to keep him
he was on a long contract, and maybe they couldn't afford him. The truth of it is, none of the English teams wanted to keep our new keeper, even when they had him
Brighton didn't find it difficult to tempt him away.
Who says we want to keep him - he has a one year contract - I don't see that as a vote of confidence but it would let us loan one of the others out to get experience.
that's what we did with Stockdale. Loaned him to the championship where he excelled, recalled him where he did a job and when we got relegated we sold him when he could of excelled for us. Are there any 3rd or 4th tier teams without a keeper then that will guarantee a kid game time?
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Quote from: Artful Dodger on August 28, 2014, 07:13:24 PM
Another statement of intent by the club. Why oh why did we let Stockdale go fp.gif
Because he isn't very good?
or, because he was worth some money. No matter how you look at it, we have considerably weakened our goal keeping options.
Is that necessarily the case? Maybe the way the team looks at it is, we already know Stockdale is OK but nothing special, and maybe one of the younger guys could turn out to be better, so we've weakened ourselves a bit in the near term in order to have a chance at strengthening ourselves in the long term?
how though, the two boys were already here. And Stockdale was more than OK in this division as he had already won promotion from it.
Are you asking how we're stronger long-term without Stockdale? We're stronger long-term because the young goalkeepers only get the playing time to develop into better players without Stockdale here. And, as Magath has said more than once, it's not just about being good enough *in this division*, it's about developing a team that's good enough to compete in the Premier League. Will Joronen or Bettinelli ever be that good? Well, I have no idea, but at this point it seems a fair bet that Stockdale won't ever be, given that nobody better than Brighton wanted to sign him.
Shwarzer played some of his best games at 38
Kasey Keller did a commendable job for us in his late 30s as well. Just stating a positive.
More importantly, I want the official Kiraly pants sold in the team store.
Quote from: Dragoman on August 28, 2014, 03:55:45 PM
But don't forget this guy can also double up as a groundsman.
...as the heavy roller...?
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Quote from: Artful Dodger on August 28, 2014, 07:13:24 PM
Another statement of intent by the club. Why oh why did we let Stockdale go fp.gif
Because he isn't very good?
or, because he was worth some money. No matter how you look at it, we have considerably weakened our goal keeping options.
Is that necessarily the case? Maybe the way the team looks at it is, we already know Stockdale is OK but nothing special, and maybe one of the younger guys could turn out to be better, so we've weakened ourselves a bit in the near term in order to have a chance at strengthening ourselves in the long term?
how though, the two boys were already here. And Stockdale was more than OK in this division as he had already won promotion from it.
Are you asking how we're stronger long-term without Stockdale? We're stronger long-term because the young goalkeepers only get the playing time to develop into better players without Stockdale here. And, as Magath has said more than once, it's not just about being good enough *in this division*, it's about developing a team that's good enough to compete in the Premier League. Will Joronen or Bettinelli ever be that good? Well, I have no idea, but at this point it seems a fair bet that Stockdale won't ever be, given that nobody better than Brighton wanted to sign him.
that's providing this new bloke doesn't take up there game time.
He's a very experienced backup (as confirmed by Magath) - I don't see the issue personally. Pointless having a 21yo sitting on the bench doing nothing IMO.
Magath's latest communication makes the situation regarding Kiraly's signing quite clear:
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/august/28/thoughts-from-the-manager (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/august/28/thoughts-from-the-manager)
I think it fair to warn that it is a sensible and rather impressive piece, and therefore may not be to everyone's taste.
I posted the article and excerpts as I think its worth a discussion overall in itself.
Quote from: cmg on August 28, 2014, 09:21:02 PM
Magath's latest communication makes the situation regarding Kiraly's signing quite clear:
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/august/28/thoughts-from-the-manager (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/august/28/thoughts-from-the-manager)
I think it fair to warn that it is a sensible and rather impressive piece, and therefore may not be to everyone's taste.
that says to me that he wanted a new keeper, but were priced out of it and will now settle with a kid and an old cheaply as cover. I'd love to see Marcus take the reigns and excell, but going on that, it was never Felix's intentions to throw them in this season
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Another statement of intent by the club. Why oh why did we let Stockdale go fp.gif
Because he isn't very good?
or, because he was worth some money. No matter how you look at it, we have considerably weakened our goal keeping options.
Is that necessarily the case? Maybe the way the team looks at it is, we already know Stockdale is OK but nothing special, and maybe one of the younger guys could turn out to be better, so we've weakened ourselves a bit in the near term in order to have a chance at strengthening ourselves in the long term?
how though, the two boys were already here. And Stockdale was more than OK in this division as he had already won promotion from it.
Are you asking how we're stronger long-term without Stockdale? We're stronger long-term because the young goalkeepers only get the playing time to develop into better players without Stockdale here. And, as Magath has said more than once, it's not just about being good enough *in this division*, it's about developing a team that's good enough to compete in the Premier League. Will Joronen or Bettinelli ever be that good? Well, I have no idea, but at this point it seems a fair bet that Stockdale won't ever be, given that nobody better than Brighton wanted to sign him.
that's providing this new bloke doesn't take up there game time.
I agree. I certainly hope that is not the case.
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 28, 2014, 05:39:41 PM
We had 4 keepers who could not all be number one, we sold one but he was number 12, we then got rid of the one who was number 1 which left two keepers. The two already had numbers 40 and 41 as the were not choice one or two. The new keeper has been given the shirt number of the second one who left who was actually the number one a few months ago.
Simples
I went to Sunbury Grammar School and I can't work that out :0)