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Title: Obita
Post by: rvFFC on May 14, 2017, 11:05:55 AM
He went down at the end of the game but I thought he was feigning injury just to waste a bit more time. Got stretchered off at the end however. Any news on if he is injured or not? Would be a big help if he had to miss this Tuesday.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Bill2 on May 14, 2017, 11:17:18 AM
Apparently twisted ankle, but he looked in a lot of pain, hopefully.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: daib0 on May 14, 2017, 11:17:58 AM
The local Reading rag "Get Reading" says...


On Jordan Obita's injury - the manager's words:

"He twisted his ankle. Fredericks bombed forward. He tried to block the cross/shot. There was no tension so he twisted it. We have to have a look at it.

"Tuesday is very close. It's not ideal but they're important for us but we've got a big squad and we've got choices for what we can do."
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Baszab on May 14, 2017, 11:55:10 AM
"I hope it's nothing trivial" - Churchill on hearing Hitler was ill
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Milo on May 14, 2017, 11:57:24 AM
Quote from: Baszab on May 14, 2017, 11:55:10 AM
"I hope it's nothing trivial" - Churchill on hearing Hitler was ill

Exactly
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: filham on May 14, 2017, 12:18:29 PM
Quote from: Milo on May 14, 2017, 11:57:24 AM
Quote from: Baszab on May 14, 2017, 11:55:10 AM
"I hope it's nothing trivial" - Churchill on hearing Hitler was ill

Exactly
And we could be facing nothing but " blood, toil tears and sweat" on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: JoelH5 on May 14, 2017, 02:10:12 PM
Someone on here said they saw him leave on crutches..

That will be great if both Obita and their captain are out
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on May 14, 2017, 02:57:14 PM
He was very quick and reduced Fredericks to very few crosses.
Hopefully he doesn't play and we can get back that crucial attacking part of our game.

I hope the guys OK though, on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: RaySmith on May 14, 2017, 03:04:29 PM
Good for us if he is out- could be with a twisted ankle.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: ffc73 on May 14, 2017, 03:16:45 PM
Surely we wish him well in his recovery.  That he convinces the Reading physio & Jaap Stam that he is fit to start.  They start him.  Fred goes past him a couple of times early doors.  We go 2-0 up then they realise that they rushed him back to soon and have to use one of their subs to shore up their back line with the damage already done...
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: FFCFOREVER on May 14, 2017, 04:33:16 PM
Quote from: FFC73 on May 14, 2017, 03:16:45 PM
Surely we wish him well in his recovery.  That he convinces the Reading physio & Jaap Stam that he is fit to start.  They start him.  Fred goes past him a couple of times early doors.  We go 2-0 up then they realise that they rushed him back to soon and have to use one of their subs to shore up their back line with the damage already done...
I like your line of thought.  :plus one:
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 04:38:58 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on May 14, 2017, 02:10:12 PM
Someone on here said they saw him leave on crutches


But they also saw him arrive on crutches. 
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Wearethewhites on May 14, 2017, 09:29:53 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 04:38:58 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on May 14, 2017, 02:10:12 PM
Someone on here said they saw him leave on crutches


But they also saw him arrive on crutches. 

One day you might get a real job.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 09:34:47 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on May 14, 2017, 09:29:53 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 04:38:58 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on May 14, 2017, 02:10:12 PM
Someone on here said they saw him leave on crutches


But they also saw him arrive on crutches. 

One day you might get a real job.

Just keep digging your hole.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Wearethewhites on May 14, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 09:34:47 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on May 14, 2017, 09:29:53 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 04:38:58 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on May 14, 2017, 02:10:12 PM
Someone on here said they saw him leave on crutches


But they also saw him arrive on crutches. 

One day you might get a real job.

Just keep digging your hole.

I've no hole to dig. For once, it'd just be nice, to enjoy a post, without you crippling it with pointless jokes and remarks.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on May 14, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 09:34:47 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on May 14, 2017, 09:29:53 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 04:38:58 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on May 14, 2017, 02:10:12 PM
Someone on here said they saw him leave on crutches


But they also saw him arrive on crutches. 

One day you might get a real job.

Just keep digging your hole.

I've no hole to dig. For once, it'd just be nice, to enjoy a post, without you crippling it with pointless jokes and remarks.

If there is any crippling being done it's yourself, your far too sensitive, man up. That sense of humour by pass operation you had can be reversed Mr Opinion. Try smiling and give your face a holiday.  096.gig
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Wearethewhites on May 14, 2017, 09:53:34 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on May 14, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 09:34:47 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on May 14, 2017, 09:29:53 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 04:38:58 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on May 14, 2017, 02:10:12 PM
Someone on here said they saw him leave on crutches


But they also saw him arrive on crutches. 

One day you might get a real job.

Just keep digging your hole.

I've no hole to dig. For once, it'd just be nice, to enjoy a post, without you crippling it with pointless jokes and remarks.

If there is any crippling being done it's yourself, your far too sensitive, man up. That sense of humour by pass operation you had can be reversed Mr Opinion. Try smiling and give your face a holiday.  096.gig


I think I echo many people's opinions of you, don't worry.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 10:06:51 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on May 14, 2017, 09:53:34 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on May 14, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 09:34:47 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on May 14, 2017, 09:29:53 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 04:38:58 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on May 14, 2017, 02:10:12 PM
Someone on here said they saw him leave on crutches


But they also saw him arrive on crutches. 

One day you might get a real job.

Just keep digging your hole.

I've no hole to dig. For once, it'd just be nice, to enjoy a post, without you crippling it with pointless jokes and remarks.

If there is any crippling being done it's yourself, your far too sensitive, man up. That sense of humour by pass operation you had can be reversed Mr Opinion. Try smiling and give your face a holiday.  096.gig


I think I echo many people's opinions of you, don't worry.

Good for you, do I look worried. If you want to think that, and that makes you feel better. Sticks and stones and all that. I think you will find you are not Exactly Mr Popularity either. But you just live your life and I will live mine, and keep your sarcastic remarks to yourself, rather than keep prodding me with a stick.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Scrumpy on May 14, 2017, 10:19:29 PM
So, no REAL news on Obita then! Can any Reading based Foffers keep their ear to the ground please.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 10:33:31 PM
I am sure they will be working on him to get him fit enough to play. That did not look an impact injury, more like strained ligaments. If it's an ankle joint, it will not clear up over night.
Cannot see him being 100%, then again the crutches may have been a precaution to keep the weight off the injury.
If he starts will he last 90 mins. We may know sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: JoelH5 on May 14, 2017, 10:33:58 PM
Quote from: Scrumpy on May 14, 2017, 10:19:29 PM
So, no REAL news on Obita then! Can any Reading based Foffers keep their ear to the ground please.

Have you seen the video with him leaving on crutches and his foot in a protective cast? I just saw it on here in another post.  The only way he will be playing is if it was all a game to make us think he'll be out and then to surprise us.. it looked pretty bad. Nothing you'd be able to come back from in two days
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: JoelH5 on May 14, 2017, 10:35:37 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 10:33:31 PM
I am sure they will be working on him to get him fit enough to play. That did not look an impact injury, more like strained ligaments. If it's an ankle joint, it will not clear up over night.
Cannot see him being 100%, then again the crutches may have been a precaution to keep the weight off the injury.
If he starts will he last 90 mins. We may know sooner rather than later.

Also on this... Ryan is obviously rapid and so if he needs to be chasing him all night that will only aggregate and already weak muscle/ligament. Maybe it's best he does start as he could actually be a weak link if not really fit... Too desperate to play etc..
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Scrumpy on May 14, 2017, 10:36:06 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on May 14, 2017, 10:33:58 PM
Quote from: Scrumpy on May 14, 2017, 10:19:29 PM
So, no REAL news on Obita then! Can any Reading based Foffers keep their ear to the ground please.

Have you seen the video with him leaving on crutches and his foot in a protective cast? I just saw it on here in another post.  The only way he will be playing is if it was all a game to make us think he'll be out and then to surprise us.. it looked pretty bad. Nothing you'd be able to come back from in two days

Sounds promising. He was a decent player.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on May 14, 2017, 10:33:58 PM
Quote from: Scrumpy on May 14, 2017, 10:19:29 PM
So, no REAL news on Obita then! Can any Reading based Foffers keep their ear to the ground please.

Have you seen the video with him leaving on crutches and his foot in a protective cast? I just saw it on here in another post.  The only way he will be playing is if it was all a game to make us think he'll be out and then to surprise us.. it looked pretty bad. Nothing you'd be able to come back from in two days

Unless they have a cunning plan. That's my feeling also.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Milo on May 14, 2017, 10:40:46 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/jordanobita?lang=en

He doesn't appear concerned! No mention of an injury.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: JoelH5 on May 14, 2017, 10:46:03 PM
Quote from: Milo on May 14, 2017, 10:40:46 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/jordanobita?lang=en

He doesn't appear concerned! No mention of an injury.

Watch this...

https://youtu.be/iz-BH_FKnYE?t=13m12s

He 1000% would have been told not to say anything as otherwise we could prepare for it
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: JoelH5 on May 14, 2017, 10:47:08 PM
That may have been a precaution but either way, even if he does play it won't be 100%
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 10:47:11 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on May 14, 2017, 10:35:37 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 14, 2017, 10:33:31 PM
I am sure they will be working on him to get him fit enough to play. That did not look an impact injury, more like strained ligaments. If it's an ankle joint, it will not clear up over night.
Cannot see him being 100%, then again the crutches may have been a precaution to keep the weight off the injury.
If he starts will he last 90 mins. We may know sooner rather than later.

Also on this... Ryan is obviously rapid and so if he needs to be chasing him all night that will only aggregate and already weak muscle/ligament. Maybe it's best he does start as he could actually be a weak link if not really fit... Too desperate to play etc..

Absolutely
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on May 15, 2017, 01:33:17 PM
Obvious shortage of car parking at the ground
I can't believe that so many of them seemed to be walking towards Fulham Palace Road to catch the bus.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: westcliff white on May 15, 2017, 01:35:37 PM
STam has said they have afew days to work on him, but if he isnt git they have a big enough squad to cover. Sounded 50/50 to me, maybe the boot was a precatution. Twisted ankle being the diagnosis
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Chutney on May 15, 2017, 02:00:00 PM
Fredericks has this guy beat every time he comes forward, I hope he's fit.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: ScalleysDad on May 15, 2017, 02:04:10 PM
A protective boot, that also offers a degree of comfort and impact absorption, along with properly set and used crutches would be standard for such an injury. It is going to bruise and it might still be swollen making x rays pointless so the only way we will really know what might occur will be his absence during the warm ups and a different fella in the back four come kick off.
This fella, for the most part anyway, had Fred sorted so if he is out Fred + Sess, at the expense of Ayite who rarely hits a barn door with banjo, and pace, pace pace. Lumping it just didn't work.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: westcliff white on May 15, 2017, 02:12:32 PM
Quote from: Chutney on May 15, 2017, 02:00:00 PM
Fredericks has this guy beat every time he comes forward, I hope he's fit.
Except last saturday sadly
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: westcliff white on May 15, 2017, 02:14:41 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on May 15, 2017, 02:04:10 PM
A protective boot, that also offers a degree of comfort and impact absorption, along with properly set and used crutches would be standard for such an injury. It is going to bruise and it might still be swollen making x rays pointless so the only way we will really know what might occur will be his absence during the warm ups and a different fella in the back four come kick off.
This fella, for the most part anyway, had Fred sorted so if he is out Fred + Sess, at the expense of Ayite who rarely hits a barn door with banjo, and pace, pace pace. Lumping it just didn't work.
Agree re the boot, could have been a precaution till they could get him worked on.

Thikn ALuko is worse than Ayite shooting wise (over the season) but both need improvement thats for sure, we hwould of been ahead at half time but for a poor connection from Akuko and a terrible choice from Ayite.

As for lumping it you are right it didnt work, wasnt helped by poor distribution from the boot of betts though
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: ScalleysDad on May 15, 2017, 03:21:31 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on May 15, 2017, 02:12:32 PM
Quote from: Chutney on May 15, 2017, 02:00:00 PM
Fredericks has this guy beat every time he comes forward, I hope he's fit.
Except last saturday sadly


I think Chutney might mean Fred has this guy beaten when he, Obita, is all strapped up and on crutches . . . . . . . . . if not Chutney we were doing the old watching different games two step.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: JoelH5 on May 15, 2017, 03:42:24 PM
Even if he does play he won't be 100% so maybe it's best they rush him back in
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: JoelH5 on May 15, 2017, 03:43:09 PM
Saying that. We played poorly and drew. Then can do what they want, we'll beat them
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 15, 2017, 04:03:42 PM
Somebody needs to be instructed to get to the ground early and wait for the Reading players to arrive, and as he approaches the gates, kick him in his bad ankle and run like hell.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: bobbo on May 15, 2017, 08:12:29 PM
The reading forum seems resigned to him not being fit,but that's the forum not the club.

He certainly for the most part had the measure of frederick's pace, so whilst wishing him a good recovery not too soon.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: Jazua on May 15, 2017, 08:26:18 PM
Some of the Reading fans were saying that he put in his best performance all season on saturday. I do remember he was absolutely awful when we beat them 5-0 earlier on in the season. I wouldn't be too upset at seeing him on the pitch tomorrow.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: RaySmith on May 15, 2017, 11:00:13 PM
I haven't seen someone deal with Fredricks as well as he did before - a big plus if he isn't playing.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: copthornemike on May 15, 2017, 11:45:59 PM
Obita was fast enough for Frederickswhen he stood 5 yards from Fredericks before received the ball and prevented him going outside and driving to the bye line and then towards the penalty area.

In the earlier 5-0 match the 5-0 Fred consistently skinned him from a standing start when Obita tried to tight mark him - resulting in a yellow card folowing a series of fouls by Obita.

Persoanally I thought it showed Stam and his coaches intelligence in drilling their defence for the match - and would not be surprised to see Reading repeat their tactics as long as the match remains tight or until near the end if they are not ahead.

If their left back (I suspect Obita will not be fully fit in time) gets an early yellow card that may well prove decisive in freeing Fred to run riot I hope.

As for Betts I thought rather than hoofing his kicks towards Martin kicking towards the corners for our quicker forwards to chase might be a better tactic and make them think twice about pressing so far upfield.   
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: westcliff white on May 16, 2017, 08:01:32 AM
Quote from: copthornemike on May 15, 2017, 11:45:59 PM
Obita was fast enough for Frederickswhen he stood 5 yards from Fredericks before received the ball and prevented him going outside and driving to the bye line and then towards the penalty area.

In the earlier 5-0 match the 5-0 Fred consistently skinned him from a standing start when Obita tried to tight mark him - resulting in a yellow card folowing a series of fouls by Obita.

Persoanally I thought it showed Stam and his coaches intelligence in drilling their defence for the match - and would not be surprised to see Reading repeat their tactics as long as the match remains tight or until near the end if they are not ahead.

If their left back (I suspect Obita will not be fully fit in time) gets an early yellow card that may well prove decisive in freeing Fred to run riot I hope.

As for Betts I thought rather than hoofing his kicks towards Martin kicking towards the corners for our quicker forwards to chase might be a better tactic and make them think twice about pressing so far upfield.   
Agree, Thats the point re Obita he played well didnt get tight to Freds and allow him to go outside, very good play and nullyfied freds, hence him having one of his poorest games htis season, Reading did their homework well. The learnt from the 5-0 and executed their plan very well.

Title: Re: Obita
Post by: JoelH5 on May 16, 2017, 08:36:37 AM
Quote from: RaySmith on May 15, 2017, 11:00:13 PM
I haven't seen someone deal with Fredricks as well as he did before - a big plus if he isn't playing.

Thing is, if he does play, you can 100% guarantee he wouldn't be playing if it wasn't the playoffs.

If they want to rush him back in so be it. He wont be 100% fit and could actually turn out to be the weak link. Would you want to be chasing Ryan all night? Let alone with a weak ankle!

A nice hard challenge to give them some of their own medicine at the start should do the trick.

Title: Obita
Post by: Southcoastffc on May 16, 2017, 12:41:29 PM
In a way I hope he does play tonight.  If he 'just' turned an ankle it won't be that easy for him in a foot race with Ryan F.
Title: Re: Obita
Post by: JoelH5 on May 16, 2017, 01:27:30 PM
Our real positive is that Reading have to play the same way. That's the best chance they have of keeping us quiet. With that in mind, we pretty much know what they will do so will have been able to plan for it.