Brentford were good money for the draw, we were too negative in the first half. Only a magnificent Mitro goal gave us an opportunity to win it. I know we all hate Brentford, but in all honesty, a draw is a fair result and at times I feared we would lose.
21 games unbeaten. 16 wins 5 draws, and Cardiff can still capitulate. Who knows, that's the fun!
- Mike
Im just so gutted... playoffs it is
Thought the subs were really poor from slavisa. Took all our outlets off and allowed them to pin us back
Was a very poor performance. Not sure if they are tired, but never got out of first gear. Brentford were miles better than us. Thought Mitro's goal was going to bail us out, but in the end we just invited too much pressure and got what we deserved
We should have seen that game out, we lost our focus, thought we were there. - too much messing about and time wasting?
Well done the lads for going 21 unbeaten anyway.
We didn't deserve anything better than a draw, too many times giving the ball away, just hope we don't face Brentford or Millwall in the play offs. Well done though Fulham on extending the unbeaten run, I think the Cardiff result affected our performance and well done to Brentford on a very good performance.
Quote from: fulhamben on April 14, 2018, 07:32:37 PM
Thought the subs were really poor from slavisa. Took all our outlets off and allowed them to pin us back
Just left the ground,your correct.
Don't know why he went on the defensive like that last 10 mins,one goal is never enough..
What was going to be a happy train ride home,is now going to be a miserable one .😬😬😬
When sub Kabano was subbed (was he injured? and Christie came on. I shuddered as we were bringing out the white flag and asking them to push on with no get out. Poor decision making by our coach I thought. Poor decision making by Christie at the end. Still 21 games not out is superb and impressive. Just wish we showed a bit more positivity in the last ten minutes.
I have a lot of mixed feelings about this game, about our relative performance, about what Brentford did well, about split second hesitations on attacking in our final third, about how no one ran with Sess as he picked his way through the left side and delivered a magnificent centering pass to...no one. No one bothered to be there. That was an instant goal if only a teammate had done his job. I thought Ream saved our bacon on several spectacular plays. Why were we giving them so much space in the last 3 minutes of stoppage time?
Fair result. A little lucky as they had a clear penalty shout for handball turned down in the first half. Thought Sessegnon was particularly good today. They pressed us down quickly and we gave the ball away too often.
I have no argument with the result. They deserved their point. We need to start preparing for the play offs now. Wouldn't fancy playing them in the play offs.
To be fair, we were lucky to get out 1-1, it could've been 3-1 them. We struggled with their very high press that just followed Cairney and Johansen in little traps. It was well executed by them.
I think the only place we were poor was the right side in attacking positions. Either Fredericks or Kebano/Piazon had their chances to get balls in or take shots on goal - and it just didn't happen soon enough. Fredericks two runs down the sides were the exception. We had them on the break several times there, and we just weren't decisive enough.
That happens though, and I still believe we'll beat Cardiff out. Gotta have faith - these are exciting times!
Quote from: fulhamben on April 14, 2018, 07:32:37 PM
Thought the subs were really poor from slavisa. Took all our outlets off and allowed them to pin us back
Agreed. Subbing a sub when there were clearly some exhausted players was disappointing to me, regardless of Neeskens not doing much in his 30 minutes.
Quote from: FortCollinsFulham on April 14, 2018, 07:43:43 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 14, 2018, 07:32:37 PM
Thought the subs were really poor from slavisa. Took all our outlets off and allowed them to pin us back
Agreed. Subbing a sub when there were clearly some exhausted players was disappointing to me, regardless of Neeskens not doing much in his 30 minutes.
But he did give us a get out with his speed. But we just decided to throw it away. Very poor decision if he wasn't injured.
For a sub, Neeskens looked absolutely knackered when Slavisa pulled him. Sweat pouring off his face. Something odd there... He wasn't on the pitch that long!
Yes, definite mistake by Slav to sub Kebano, we just went much deeper after that.
No need to throw the towel in yet though.........always lots of twists and turns in end of season games and Cardiff are hardly playing world-beating football.
Poor game management by Jok, far too negative, we are not that good enough to defend a goal lead every week, they out played us a lot in the first half, and overall we were poor and lacking in urgency and workrate on and off the ball, only did it in patches.
We have to show more assertiveness and intent.
Invited them on and they deserved their equaliser, but so unnecessary.
Quote from: Matt10 on April 14, 2018, 07:42:37 PM
To be fair, we were lucky to get out 1-1, it could've been 3-1 them. We struggled with their very high press that just followed Cairney and Johansen in little traps. It was well executed by them.
I think the only place we were poor was the right side in attacking positions. Either Fredericks or Kebano/Piazon had their chances to get balls in or take shots on goal - and it just didn't happen soon enough. Fredericks two runs down the sides were the exception. We had them on the break several times there, and we just weren't decisive enough.
That happens though, and I still believe we'll beat Cardiff out. Gotta have faith - these are exciting times!
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Tend to agree Matt, i feel we only see the best of Fredericks when Floyd is there, it is like he does not trust any of the others to cover him. I thought piazon was poor, Johansen as well apart from that superb ball to Mitrovic.
Don't know if its true,but some guy said walking through the park that there was a bug going round in the camp...Betts,Fred and Kebano were poorly as late as Thursday.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on April 14, 2018, 07:55:31 PM
Don't know if its true,but some guy said walking through the park that there was a bug going round in the camp...Betts,Fred and Kebano were poorly as late as Thursday.
Was he the club Doctor ?
If true, it would explain the way Neeskens looked as he came off his short sub stint. Face absolutely dripping with sweat.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on April 14, 2018, 07:55:31 PM
Don't know if its true,but some guy said walking through the park that there was a bug going round in the camp...Betts,Fred and Kebano were poorly as late as Thursday.
Was he the club Doctor ?
Hahaha..........it´s a bloody good excuse though!
Kebano coming off lost us two points.
If he was ill he should never have been sent on in the first place.
What Kebano does very well is defend from the front.
Slav cocked this one up big time either way.
Everyone
We got a point.
Let's move on to the next
As absolutely gutted as everyone ..but the fat lady Isn't yet singing,and as knackered kicked as I am this team deserve so much credit ,most of us would have take a point away at Millwall that now needs to be 3 and if so who knows?...
Quote from: FortCollinsFulham on April 14, 2018, 07:43:43 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 14, 2018, 07:32:37 PM
Thought the subs were really poor from slavisa. Took all our outlets off and allowed them to pin us back
Agreed. Subbing a sub when there were clearly some exhausted players was disappointing to me, regardless of Neeskens not doing much in his 30 minutes.
I thought SJ was spot on to pull off Piazon and bring on Kebano. He had to take off Kebano because he had a knock. Was Christie the right replacement? Possibly not but who would you have used, Kamara perhaps? The switch of Johansen for Norwood was to run down the clock and it nearly paid off.
I think Jokanovic was not happy with Kebano (perhaps for helping Fredericks enough?), that's why he took him off. He didn't even acknowledge him when he went to the bench and looked to be very, very annoyed.
Quote from: Twig on April 14, 2018, 08:47:50 PM
Quote from: FortCollinsFulham on April 14, 2018, 07:43:43 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 14, 2018, 07:32:37 PM
Thought the subs were really poor from slavisa. Took all our outlets off and allowed them to pin us back
Agreed. Subbing a sub when there were clearly some exhausted players was disappointing to me, regardless of Neeskens not doing much in his 30 minutes.
I thought SJ was spot on to pull off Piazon and bring on Kebano. He had to take off Kebano because he had a knock. Was Christie the right replacement? Possibly not but who would you have used, Kamara perhaps? The switch of Johansen for Norwood was to run down the clock and it nearly paid off.
I absolutely agreed with bringing on Kebano for Piazon as well. If Neeskens did get a knock then obviously the sub-sub had to happen, but the broadcast said with certainty that it was not due to injury and was tactical. So that's what I'm going with at the moment, unless it's since been announced he indeed had a knock
It really looks like the Play Offs , especially if Cardiff beat Derby in the week.
I am dreading the Play Offs, Milwall, Villa, Boro, suddenly look tough.l
Saying that it was the subs fault tells me you need to give me a specific example of how it was the sub that would have made the difference or not. Do you recall how we got scored on? You want to blame someone? As in who was supposed to be marking their goal scorer?
It was Fredericks.
Proof:
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/7439/kjkJMo.png)
Let Maupay run right through him.
Blaming Christie? Why? He's out on the flank marking the outside midfielder. The man who crossed the ball? Marked by KMac, who didn't pressure him.
Stop blaming subs or the coach because of what sounds like a bad decisions in theory. The theory is out the window when what happens on the pitch doesn't lie. It's irresponsible to keep putting the blame game where there is no basis from a footballing standpoint of what actually happens on the pitch.
Quote from: Matt10 on April 14, 2018, 11:18:57 PM
Saying that it was the subs fault tells me you need to give me a specific example of how it was the sub that would have made the difference or not. Do you recall how we got scored on? You want to blame someone? As in who was supposed to be marking their goal scorer?
It was Fredericks.
Top man - top post .
Proof:
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/7439/kjkJMo.png)
Let Maupay run right through him.
Blaming Christie? Why? He's out on the flank marking the outside midfielder. The man who crossed the ball? Marked by KMac, who didn't pressure him.
Stop blaming subs or the coach because of what sounds like a bad decisions in theory. The theory is out the window when what happens on the pitch doesn't lie. It's irresponsible to keep putting the blame game where there is no basis from a footballing standpoint of what actually happens on the pitch.
Apart from 1 exhilarating run, I thought Fred's was terrible especially the 1st quarter of the match and I was thinking he should have been substituted early on, but there were so many under par performances by our players today, I blame Cardiff!!
Quote from: Ordar on April 14, 2018, 07:33:25 PM
Was a very poor performance. Not sure if they are tired, but never got out of first gear. Brentford were miles better than us. Thought Mitro's goal was going to bail us out, but in the end we just invited too much pressure and got what we deserved
+1000!!! Why did we not turn up? I wouldn't say we were poor, but we were below average.
It looks like we are saving it for home advantage in playoffs. That's why we put Christie on - to throw it.
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Quote from: Ordar on April 14, 2018, 07:33:25 PM
Was a very poor performance. Not sure if they are tired, but never got out of first gear. Brentford were miles better than us. Thought Mitro's goal was going to bail us out, but in the end we just invited too much pressure and got what we deserved
+1000!!! Why did we not turn up? I wouldn't say we were poor, but we were below average.
It looks like we are saving it for home advantage in playoffs. That's why we put Christie on - to throw it.
LOL, mystery solved then!!
Ream's reaction to that last second score was quite something. He looked disgusted and beyond upset.
Didn't deserve a win today. So many silly mistakes in the first half. Our goal was against the run of play and I honestly didn't see it coming at all.
Last minute equalisers are always gutting but oh well; we're still in the playoffs and they're...well they're not..
Their fans are scum though. 100%. Tiny club.