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Title: In house fighting
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on August 05, 2019, 11:11:21 AM
I just can't understand the level of fighting on this forum .

I understand emotions run high and we all care about our wonderful club but please can we stop the name calling and telling people where to go. The great thing about football is that we are all entitled to a different view just beacuse i dont agree with a post or an opinion doesn't give me the right to call you names .

What are we teaching the younger people who read this forum after all it is called friends of fulham not enemies of fulham.

Mods can we not issue people with warnings when the overstep the mark and on the 3rd occasions log them out for a few days .

And finally COYW
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: hovewhite on August 05, 2019, 11:16:34 AM
FRP agree with the post 100%
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Dr Quinzel on August 05, 2019, 11:20:19 AM
Agree with your sentiment, but not the note re mods and warning/strikes - that is both not manageable, but also stops the point of a forum; it is to discuss views, and some will vary. If someone becomes obviously abusive, fine, but arguments are part and parcel.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on August 05, 2019, 11:24:27 AM
I've no problem with the different views like you have just put across a good point that doesnt agree with mine but you didnt go down the road of calling a pr$$k or worse that was my point about the mods
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 11:27:22 AM
Get a bleedin grip for the love of it.
You want to read some other clubs forums,some of them threatening to shoot one another.
Stop taking things so seriously, people can call me every name under the sun if they like,it want bother me cause its only someone at the other end I've never met.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Russianrob on August 05, 2019, 11:28:20 AM
Is such irritable attitudes just due to the weather.One thing that is making me pariticulary angry at present is the attention given to rubbish womens football!
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 11:34:33 AM
Quote from: Russianrob on August 05, 2019, 11:28:20 AM
Is such irritable attitudes just due to the weather.One thing that is making me pariticulary angry at present is the attention given to rubbish womens football!

All women's sport,should be at home getting the housework done...Lazy slags.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: FFC1987 on August 05, 2019, 11:35:22 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 11:34:33 AM
Quote from: Russianrob on August 05, 2019, 11:28:20 AM
Is such irritable attitudes just due to the weather.One thing that is making me pariticulary angry at present is the attention given to rubbish womens football!

All women's sport,should be at home getting the housework done...Lazy slags.

Based on your last few posts, I'd suggest a 30 minute lie down.....
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: FFCFOREVER on August 05, 2019, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 05, 2019, 11:35:22 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 11:34:33 AM
Quote from: Russianrob on August 05, 2019, 11:28:20 AM
Is such irritable attitudes just due to the weather.One thing that is making me pariticulary angry at present is the attention given to rubbish womens football!

All women's sport,should be at home getting the housework done...Lazy slags.

Based on your last few posts, I'd suggest a 30 minute lie down.....
Ffs lol.He's having a wind up
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: FFC1987 on August 05, 2019, 11:47:22 AM
Quote from: FFCFOREVER on August 05, 2019, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 05, 2019, 11:35:22 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 11:34:33 AM
Quote from: Russianrob on August 05, 2019, 11:28:20 AM
Is such irritable attitudes just due to the weather.One thing that is making me pariticulary angry at present is the attention given to rubbish womens football!

All women's sport,should be at home getting the housework done...Lazy slags.

Based on your last few posts, I'd suggest a 30 minute lie down.....
Ffs lol.He's having a wind up

As was I....we've been at it all morning.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Aussie_Fulham on August 05, 2019, 11:49:24 AM
In my short time on here it looks fine to me. Nobody I have seen has over stepped the mark. If somebody's words have upset you on here than I dare say the internet probably isn't for you.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on August 05, 2019, 12:12:40 PM
I personally have not been offended or upset by remarks on this forum but i do think its very easy to have a go at somebody and then say it was only a windup .I just think people need to be careful what they post as we don't  know other peoples state of mind .

I am glad people have a different point of view otherwise the world would be a very boring place we just don't need to have a go at people who's opinion differs
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: absenteeism on August 05, 2019, 12:13:42 PM
Our owners are divisive characters.

Our director of footballer is divisively incompetent.

He imposes tactics and squad selection on Parker
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Twig on August 05, 2019, 12:14:09 PM
Quote from: FFCFOREVER on August 05, 2019, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 05, 2019, 11:35:22 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 11:34:33 AM
Quote from: Russianrob on August 05, 2019, 11:28:20 AM
Is such irritable attitudes just due to the weather.One thing that is making me pariticulary angry at present is the attention given to rubbish womens football!

All women's sport,should be at home getting the housework done...Lazy slags.

Based on your last few posts, I'd suggest a 30 minute lie down.....
Ffs lol.He's having a wind up

No change there then.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Burt on August 05, 2019, 12:21:44 PM
As football forums go this is one of the more "well-behaved" ones around, in so far as if there is excessive name-calling, bad language etc. or anything remotely approaching something libelous then we will act on it and moderate accordingly. We hope that we have the balance just about right, but as us mods are only human we may not get it right 100% of the time.

My own view is to view FOF as a virtual pub. So just be who you would be within a typical social setting and you won't get many "keyboard warriors" or WUMs on here as a result.

Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Burt on August 05, 2019, 12:26:15 PM
Just a reminder about our guidelines for posting:
https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=51314.0

Any questions or comments? Let me know.

Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: ALG01 on August 05, 2019, 12:36:36 PM
Quote from: Aussie_Fulham on August 05, 2019, 11:49:24 AM
In my short time on here it looks fine to me. Nobody I have seen has over stepped the mark. If somebody's words have upset you on here than I dare say the internet probably isn't for you.

I hate to disagree but check the abuse i get. I have in the last day been unpleasantly told i do not know anything about football, and that is truly  the worst thing i have had said, been called an **** hea etc.

I merely state my views. Others are entitled to diagree but there are a few unfortunates thzt do resort to insult. I discuss football matters and the club and want things better.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Lighthouse on August 05, 2019, 12:41:07 PM
If a particular poster annoys you constantly. Then there is always an ignore button you can use to stop reading their stuff.

It is apparent and has been for a few years that the good natured banter that was once laughed at and despite the name calling would soon settle down. Feels like it changed and posters decided go too far. Which in turn leads to sarky comments and rudeness.

We do all support the same side and I do wonder why we need the insults against players and owners and fans. Criticism is fine but let's keep it civil.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 05, 2019, 12:46:07 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 11:27:22 AM
Get a bleedin grip for the love of it.
You want to read some other clubs forums,some of them threatening to shoot one another.
Stop taking things so seriously, people can call me every name under the sun if they like,it want bother me cause its only someone at the other end I've never met.

I can call you any name you say, ok how about if I called you a Garden Shed Stalker
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 05, 2019, 12:55:02 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on August 05, 2019, 12:36:36 PM
Quote from: Aussie_Fulham on August 05, 2019, 11:49:24 AM
In my short time on here it looks fine to me. Nobody I have seen has over stepped the mark. If somebody's words have upset you on here than I dare say the internet probably isn't for you.

I hate to disagree but check the abuse i get. I have in the last day been unpleasantly told i do not know anything about football, and that is truly  the worst thing i have had said, been called an **** hea etc.

I merely state my views. Others are entitled to diagree but there are a few unfortunates thzt do resort to insult. I discuss football matters and the club and want things better.

ALGOI, don't let the bar stewards get you down, don't let them bully you into submission, I have no problem with your posts, and if I did I would either move on or debate it with you, with maybe some harmless banter. But I have seen some of the abuse you have received, they are just showing their ignorance of social skills. Yes it is irritating but this forum is an oasis of tranquility compared to most. 
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: the nutflush on August 05, 2019, 01:30:23 PM
But the cricket thread is fun. Right Woolly?
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: SuffolkWhite on August 05, 2019, 01:48:55 PM
I have Chelski mated from the bad old days and they used to beat each other up! But then thst was before the internet, wonder if thats chsnged 064.gif
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: ALG01 on August 05, 2019, 01:49:19 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 05, 2019, 12:55:02 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on August 05, 2019, 12:36:36 PM
Quote from: Aussie_Fulham on August 05, 2019, 11:49:24 AM
In my short time on here it looks fine to me. Nobody I have seen has over stepped the mark. If somebody's words have upset you on here than I dare say the internet probably isn't for you.

I hate to disagree but check the abuse i get. I have in the last day been unpleasantly told i do not know anything about football, and that is truly  the worst thing i have had said, been called an **** hea etc.

I merely state my views. Others are entitled to diagree but there are a few unfortunates thzt do resort to insult. I discuss football matters and the club and want things better.

ALGOI, don't let the bar stewards get you down, don't let them bully you into submission, I have no problem with your posts, and if I did I would either move on or debate it with you, with maybe some harmless banter. But I have seen some of the abuse you have received, they are just showing their ignorance of social skills. Yes it is irritating but this forum is an oasis of tranquility compared to most.

Thank you for your kind words.

I do have a thick skin, rather like a woolly mammoth really. The 'abuse' is irritating and unnecessary and does not move the process forward. I wouldn't mind bust lots of it is from the same small group that always seems to be nonconstructive in debate. I really do not mind people disagreeing with me, I love a robust debate, even if it gets foolishly heated.

I am aware there are other forums that are way more offensive and I just do not bother with that.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 05, 2019, 03:23:23 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 05, 2019, 01:30:23 PM
But the cricket thread is fun. Right Woolly?

I was enjoying it right up to the moment I realised it wasn't going to rain, and everything has gone down hill since then.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 03:42:24 PM
To be honest there is a horrible feeling around the whole club at the moment. Worse than it has been for some time in my opinion. Players seem lethargic, unprecedented abuse of players and staff online and at the matches. I will always support Fulham, I couldn't stop if I wanted to but it is getting a bit strange at the moment. We normally have a great comradery and aren't like your Cardiff/Millwall fans etc but that seems to be disappearing fast.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Russianrob on August 05, 2019, 04:03:41 PM
Personal Advice.Never post on here under the influence of alcohol especially after watching one of our bad performances.There have been too many of them of late but that is no excuse alas!
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:06:11 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 05, 2019, 12:46:07 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 11:27:22 AM
Get a bleedin grip for the love of it.
You want to read some other clubs forums,some of them threatening to shoot one another.
Stop taking things so seriously, people can call me every name under the sun if they like,it want bother me cause its only someone at the other end I've never met.

I can call you any name you say, ok how about if I called you a Garden Shed Stalker

Funny you mentioned shed,someone tried to break into it last night.
Hope he comes back tonight as I'll be waiting for him or her.😑
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Dr Quinzel on August 05, 2019, 04:52:42 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 03:42:24 PM
To be honest there is a horrible feeling around the whole club at the moment. Worse than it has been for some time in my opinion. Players seem lethargic, unprecedented abuse of players and staff online and at the matches. I will always support Fulham, I couldn't stop if I wanted to but it is getting a bit strange at the moment. We normally have a great comradery and aren't like your Cardiff/Millwall fans etc but that seems to be disappearing fast.

Have said to this to a few people recently, but have been saying that generally speaking the club hasn't been the same for a long time - the club started treating fans differently, and then results went downhill and it all spiralled. I really didn't enjoy Barnsley away at all, apart from the £3 pint.

You mention the players - today our captains first message to the fans on Twitter is to post how brilliant Brian McKnight is... for someone who just got a rumoured £60k a week to captain a Championship side, he has all the thoughts and leadership skills of a trout.

It's a small thing, but just adds to the disenchantment and frustration of the fans, which adds to the terrible atmosphere. We just seem amateur and have done so for a while.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: WindyCity on August 05, 2019, 04:59:22 PM
Quote from: Aussie_Fulham on August 05, 2019, 11:49:24 AM
In my short time on here it looks fine to me. Nobody I have seen has over stepped the mark. If somebody's words have upset you on here than I dare say the internet probably isn't for you.

I concur.  I've only been a short time here, and I really haven't seen anything outrageous.  Some heated conversations and such, but I would say this forum justifies its' title.....FOF. 
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: WindyCity on August 05, 2019, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 03:42:24 PM
To be honest there is a horrible feeling around the whole club at the moment. Worse than it has been for some time in my opinion. Players seem lethargic, unprecedented abuse of players and staff online and at the matches.

The "online" reference is what I would like to comment on.  It should be a non-issue from the standpoint of players, coaches and those directly associated with the club.  It is up to these highly paid professional athletes, in any sport, btw, to stay away from these sorts of forums.  They need to be smart enough to avoid and realize that only "fans" (ie...fanatics) are commenting and criticizing especially when things are not going well.  In my view, it's all on them if they let this sort of thing bother them.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 05:08:09 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on August 05, 2019, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 05, 2019, 03:42:24 PM
To be honest there is a horrible feeling around the whole club at the moment. Worse than it has been for some time in my opinion. Players seem lethargic, unprecedented abuse of players and staff online and at the matches.

The "online" reference is what I would like to comment on.  It should be a non-issue from the standpoint of players, coaches and those directly associated with the club.  It is up to these highly paid professional athletes, in any sport, btw, to stay away from these sorts of forums.  They need to be smart enough to avoid and realize that only "fans" (ie...fanatics) are commenting and criticizing especially when things are not going well.  In my view, it's all on them if they let this sort of thing bother them.

Of course but it still doesn't mean that it is therefore acceptable. It's always going to happen but it seems to be happening more and more often. The only way to stop it is for other fans to shun these people. They will then soon lose their crowd mentality and not feel they can get away with it. I'm not talking about saying players are poor etc, I mean racism and personal abuse.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: ron on August 05, 2019, 07:55:07 PM
Perhaps it's worth mentioning that being "Friends of Fulham" underpins the fact that we should be friends of each other as well. Personal abuse directed against honestly held opinion will have the effect of alienating free speech and turning these pages into another  shabby forum as seen at certain other clubs, despite the efforts of our excellent mods.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: YankeeJim on August 05, 2019, 10:04:41 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on August 05, 2019, 12:13:42 PM
Our owners are divisive characters.

Our director of footballer is divisively incompetent.

He imposes tactics and squad selection on Parker


I think he's talking about you.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2019, 12:05:02 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 04:06:11 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 05, 2019, 12:46:07 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2019, 11:27:22 AM
Get a bleedin grip for the love of it.
You want to read some other clubs forums,some of them threatening to shoot one another.
Stop taking things so seriously, people can call me every name under the sun if they like,it want bother me cause its only someone at the other end I've never met.

I can call you any name you say, ok how about if I called you a Garden Shed Stalker

Funny you mentioned shed,someone tried to break into it last night.
Hope he comes back tonight as I'll be waiting for him or her.😑

I think it was one of two people, your wife or Felix Wolfgang Magath. .
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: The Rock on August 06, 2019, 12:36:10 AM
I am surprised there isn't more infighting as well. I love everyone here for the most part, but I find myself dreaming of Mike Ashley at night. Something is wrong with our owners.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: cookieg on August 06, 2019, 03:51:30 PM
Unfortunately, at times, some good threads descend into a few people having a go at each other over different opinions and this is when I stop reading those posters comments. I'm sure they may well be making very interesting points but I really can't be bothered to read them.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: The Rational Fan on August 07, 2019, 01:32:46 AM
The Club went into the Premier League expecting great results and as soon as it was harder than expected, a blame culture arose trying to assign blame the most responsible indidivuals rather than just gradually improve with a aim to be back in the premier league soon. Blamed managers and players left, but getting reinforcements is hard once a blame culture arises. Barnsley show what a good culture can do.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2019, 01:40:45 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on August 07, 2019, 01:32:46 AM
The Club went into the Premier League expecting great results and as soon as it was harder than expected, a blame culture arose trying to assign blame to a few indidivuals rather than gradually improve.

Who do you think should be blamed at the club for the disaster of last season, because it certainly wasn't Sir Craven of Cottage fault, or my fault, I don't even think it was your fault, although we are currently having a full investigation at the moment to try and clear your name. But I repeat who do you think was to blame at the club for last seasons disaster on and off the pitch, the Turnstiles operators, if not who ?
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: ALG01 on August 07, 2019, 09:42:16 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2019, 01:40:45 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on August 07, 2019, 01:32:46 AM
The Club went into the Premier League expecting great results and as soon as it was harder than expected, a blame culture arose trying to assign blame to a few indidivuals rather than gradually improve.

Who do you think should be blamed at the club for the disaster of last season, because it certainly wasn't Sir Craven of Cottage fault, or my fault, I don't even think it was your fault, although we are currently having a full investigation at the moment to try and clear your name. But I repeat who do you think was to blame at the club for last seasons disaster on and off the pitch, the Turnstiles operators, if not who ?

We all know who is to blame, it all comes down, unfortunately, to a single individual. In the case of Fulham it is just that simple. In a given game it is the players but over an extended period it is tge the people in senior management that stweard the club and based on the resource we have and the money they chucked at it, a single individual entirely is responsible. Now but for his family connection he would not be here at all, and given by some fluke he blagged the job, he would have got the bullet ladt october for sure.

As it is he is still here crippling us.  That is not blame culture, that is stating business fact.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Fulham 442 on August 07, 2019, 10:03:30 AM

Unfortunately, at times, some good threads descend into a few people having a go at each other over different opinions and this is when I stop reading those posters comments. I'm sure they may well be making very interesting points but I really can't be bothered to read them.

I agree. Also people making offensive comments under the guise of having a laugh/wind up etc. The atmosphere on this board has certainly not been as congenial as in the past imo. We are all frustrated by what has/is happening in the transfer window and on the pitch and although healthy debate is good topics either go "off piste" or descend into a slanging match.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: CorkCity on August 07, 2019, 11:11:48 AM
Quote from: Russianrob on August 05, 2019, 04:03:41 PM
Personal Advice.Never post on here under the influence of alcohol especially after watching one of our bad performances.There have been too many of them of late but that is no excuse alas!

Thanks, I will try to remember that
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Twig on August 07, 2019, 12:03:02 PM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 07, 2019, 10:03:30 AM

Unfortunately, at times, some good threads descend into a few people having a go at each other over different opinions and this is when I stop reading those posters comments. I'm sure they may well be making very interesting points but I really can't be bothered to read them.

I agree. Also people making offensive comments under the guise of having a laugh/wind up etc. The atmosphere on this board has certainly not been as congenial as in the past imo. We are all frustrated by what has/is happening in the transfer window and on the pitch and although healthy debate is good topics either go "off piste" or descend into a slanging match.

There are certainly a small number whose bluntness and use of f*****ing asterisks is pretty depressing. Just being rude or dismissive to other FoFers isn't clever in my opinion.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Logicalman on August 07, 2019, 12:40:09 PM
Quote from: Russianrob on August 05, 2019, 04:03:41 PM
Personal Advice.Never post on here under the influence of alcohol especially after watching one of our bad performances.There have been too many of them of late but that is no excuse alas!

Should make for many a quiet Saturday night on here then, if the Barnsley match is a picture of what's to come!
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: JoelH5 on August 07, 2019, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: Logicalman on August 07, 2019, 12:40:09 PM
Quote from: Russianrob on August 05, 2019, 04:03:41 PM
Personal Advice.Never post on here under the influence of alcohol especially after watching one of our bad performances.There have been too many of them of late but that is no excuse alas!

Should make for many a quiet Saturday night on here then, if the Barnsley match is a picture of what's to come!

The difficulty is, should he play? He's understandably got a lot of other things on his mind.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: jarv on August 07, 2019, 03:42:21 PM
Good post. I agree entirely. There used to be quite a lot of NFR which were jokes, comments (intelligent and amusing) and occasionally other light topics away from the football when the team is in a bad way. LIving in USA, I loved the posts about pubs etc in Putney/Fulham where I used to live. Makes me smile and brings back memories.
Title: Re: In house fighting
Post by: Twig on August 07, 2019, 07:45:49 PM
Quote from: jarv on August 07, 2019, 03:42:21 PM
Good post. I agree entirely. There used to be quite a lot of NFR which were jokes, comments (intelligent and amusing) and occasionally other light topics away from the football when the team is in a bad way. LIving in USA, I loved the posts about pubs etc in Putney/Fulham where I used to live. Makes me smile and brings back memories.

Did you ever go in the Dove? We always used to walk there after a game for a couple of pints. Too goody now, nowhere left to sit and just enjoy a drink (unless you grab a spot on the terrace on warmer evenings).