Today we manage to snatch a promotion rivals best striker for £10m making them considerably weaker and a lot of fans are still upset.
I know we needed a defender but Ream was player of the season the year we went up. How do we know he won't regain that form?
It was a loan
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on August 08, 2019, 10:19:32 PM
It was a loan
Loan with and option to buy at 10 mill. Thanks for your contribution!
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:20:42 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on August 08, 2019, 10:19:32 PM
It was a loan
Loan with and option to buy at 10 mill. Thanks for your contribution!
You said we snatched him for 10M, we did not, it was a loan.
Well for what's its worth I'm happy with the business we did this transfer market.
I think every incoming player has strengthened the squad.
Quote from: Luka on August 08, 2019, 10:31:49 PM
Well for what's its worth I'm happy with the business we did this transfer market.
I think every incoming player has strengthened the squad.
I think most this morning would have said we needed a ST, DM and a CB. We got two of the three so not that bad.
So the players we lose if we don't go up this year are
Knockaert
Cavaliero
Reid
Reed
Arter
And probably Odoi and Johansen, and at least one, if not both, of Mitrovic and Cairney.
So only two thirds of the team, that's fine.
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:33:35 PM
So the players we lose if we don't go up this year are
Knockaert
Cavaliero
Reid
Reed
Arter
And probably Odoi and Johansen.
So only two thirds of the team, that's fine.
Let's hope we go up then!
I feel like we've gambled two ways though. One with how Statto just summed up and secondly, but not bringing in a CB. I can't see how one can disagree with that. Its certainly high risk, granted with potential high reward, but the CB was a no brainer.
they seem good signings
BUT
we needed defenders as a top priority and gt none
we have a very poor right back and LB I am not impressed with, the goal at Barnsley was a good example of what is wrong with him, as it was all last season. mawsom for the goal danced like a disco gogo dancer not knowing whether to come or stay amd conmsequently did nothing worthy of the name. so we needed defeneders, that is the issue we have massively unbalanced squad as we have for several seasons but do not have slav to try and paper over the cracks. the signings look to be good, but we needed defenders.
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 10:35:25 PM
I feel like we've gambled two ways though. One with how Statto just summed up and secondly, but not bringing in a CB. I can't see how one can disagree with that. Its certainly high risk, granted with potential high reward, but the CB was a no brainer.
I don't think anyone would say we shouldn't have got a CB in. Like.you say it's a big risk what we've done but there's no reason Mawson and Ream may not strike a good partnership and we end up being okay.
Let's not forget we got Stuart Gray back
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:37:27 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 10:35:25 PM
I feel like we've gambled two ways though. One with how Statto just summed up and secondly, but not bringing in a CB. I can't see how one can disagree with that. Its certainly high risk, granted with potential high reward, but the CB was a no brainer.
I don't think anyone would say we shouldn't have got a CB in. Like.you say it's a big risk what we've done but there's no reason Mawson and Ream may not strike a good partnership and we end up being okay.
Whilst true, one could say the same with our midfield of StefJo and KMac, sadly, I don't see that happening either!
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 10:39:02 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:37:27 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2019, 10:35:25 PM
I feel like we've gambled two ways though. One with how Statto just summed up and secondly, but not bringing in a CB. I can't see how one can disagree with that. Its certainly high risk, granted with potential high reward, but the CB was a no brainer.
I don't think anyone would say we shouldn't have got a CB in. Like.you say it's a big risk what we've done but there's no reason Mawson and Ream may not strike a good partnership and we end up being okay.
Whilst true, one could say the same with our midfield of StefJo and KMac, sadly, I don't see that happening either!
Yes but Kmac wasnt player of the season nor has he really played for 14 months where as Ream has
KMac was up there though, but playing time is fair enough, good point.
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:32:01 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on August 08, 2019, 10:31:27 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:20:42 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on August 08, 2019, 10:19:32 PM
It was a loan
Loan with and option to buy at 10 mill. Thanks for your contribution!
You said we snatched him for 10M, we did not, it was a loan.
Thanks Jim!
and actually we dont have an option to buy him either. If there was an option the club would have said so. Instead the club has said it's a one year loan that could later be made permanent. So no option
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Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:32:01 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on August 08, 2019, 10:31:27 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:20:42 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on August 08, 2019, 10:19:32 PM
It was a loan
Loan with and option to buy at 10 mill. Thanks for your contribution!
You said we snatched him for 10M, we did not, it was a loan.
Thanks Jim!
and actually we dont have an option to buy him either. If there was an option the club would have said so. Instead the club has said it's a one year loan that could later be made permanent. So no option
Saying 'a one year loan that could be made permanent' is the the same thing as option to buy
We have definitely made some good signings and therefore that deserves some credit
BUT
Any decisions whether it be in the rarefied world of football or any business has to be put in the context of priorities . Has to be 100%. Surely , as the majority of people on here have pointed out - we needed defenders. That was the priority and we drew a blank.
This window was good but not good enough
At this stage who knows whether the defence is good enough,
It was the season before last, when we were promoted, we lost 2 of that back 4, when we got promoted, and the new back 4 never gelled or was given the time to gel.
However a fully fit Mawson with a preseason, may make the back 4 a better unit. Also I think Betts vocally will make a difference to Rico from last season too.
Are the current players we have for a back 4 (or 5) good enough? possibly is the only answer now. If we were in the Prem are they good enough - no definitely not.
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2019, 10:50:09 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 09, 2019, 10:29:17 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:32:01 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on August 08, 2019, 10:31:27 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:20:42 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on August 08, 2019, 10:19:32 PM
It was a loan
Loan with and option to buy at 10 mill. Thanks for your contribution!
You said we snatched him for 10M, we did not, it was a loan.
Thanks Jim!
and actually we dont have an option to buy him either. If there was an option the club would have said so. Instead the club has said it's a one year loan that could later be made permanent. So no option
Saying 'a one year loan that could be made permanent' is the the same thing as option to buy
I found this online:
"Reid joined Fulham on an initial season-long loan, which it is understood will eventually become a permanent move. Warnock revealed the deal will see Cardiff make a £1.5million profit on their £8.5m outlay last summer."
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-boss-neil-warnock-16726717.amp?__twitter_impression=true
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:33:35 PM
So the players we lose if we don't go up this year are
Knockaert
Cavaliero
Reid
Reed
Arter
And probably Odoi and Johansen, and at least one, if not both, of Mitrovic and Cairney.
So only two thirds of the team, that's fine.
Unless you have detailed knowledge of the particular contracts you don't actually know that.
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:14:24 PM
Today we manage to snatch a promotion rivals best striker for £10m making them considerably weaker and a lot of fans are still upset.
I know we needed a defender but Ream was player of the season the year we went up. How do we know he won't regain that form?
Ream plays LCB, So does Mawson. We only have odoi that can play RCB.
Quote from: Southcoastffc on August 09, 2019, 11:16:23 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2019, 10:33:35 PM
So the players we lose if we don't go up this year are
Knockaert
Cavaliero
Reid
Reed
Arter
And probably Odoi and Johansen, and at least one, if not both, of Mitrovic and Cairney.
So only two thirds of the team, that's fine.
Unless you have detailed knowledge of the particular contracts you don't actually know that.
Well I suppose it's conceivable that the exercise price on our option to buy Knockaert, Cavaleiro, Reid et al is £25k, like we paid for Robbie Herrera.
However I think it reasonable to assume the prices will be much higher, and we won't be able to afford to sign them if we don't go up.
So no, I don't "actually know" they'll be gone, just like I don't "actually know" whether we could bring in Mbappe and Neymar in January, but I can speculate with a very high degree of confidence about what's likely to happen.
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on August 09, 2019, 11:14:56 AM
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2019, 10:50:09 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 09, 2019, 10:29:17 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:32:01 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on August 08, 2019, 10:31:27 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:20:42 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on August 08, 2019, 10:19:32 PM
It was a loan
Loan with and option to buy at 10 mill. Thanks for your contribution!
You said we snatched him for 10M, we did not, it was a loan.
Thanks Jim!
and actually we dont have an option to buy him either. If there was an option the club would have said so. Instead the club has said it's a one year loan that could later be made permanent. So no option
Saying 'a one year loan that could be made permanent' is the the same thing as option to buy
I found this online:
"Reid joined Fulham on an initial season-long loan, which it is understood will eventually become a permanent move. Warnock revealed the deal will see Cardiff make a £1.5million profit on their £8.5m outlay last summer."
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-boss-neil-warnock-16726717.amp?__twitter_impression=true
Just ignore him mate. He just wants an arrangement
Hilarious the end of every window same posts and posters
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 09, 2019, 12:21:23 PM
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on August 09, 2019, 11:14:56 AM
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2019, 10:50:09 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 09, 2019, 10:29:17 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:32:01 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on August 08, 2019, 10:31:27 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:20:42 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on August 08, 2019, 10:19:32 PM
It was a loan
Loan with and option to buy at 10 mill. Thanks for your contribution!
You said we snatched him for 10M, we did not, it was a loan.
Thanks Jim!
and actually we dont have an option to buy him either. If there was an option the club would have said so. Instead the club has said it's a one year loan that could later be made permanent. So no option
Saying 'a one year loan that could be made permanent' is the the same thing as option to buy
I found this online:
"Reid joined Fulham on an initial season-long loan, which it is understood will eventually become a permanent move. Warnock revealed the deal will see Cardiff make a £1.5million profit on their £8.5m outlay last summer."
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-boss-neil-warnock-16726717.amp?__twitter_impression=true
Just ignore him mate. He just wants an arrangement
lol, ok. But can you please explain why every loan we have with an option states that we have an option, except this one
I think it is fair to say that TK is the pantomime villain and always will be whatever happens. We will blame him for everything. However we have options in two out of the three areas we needed them. So that is good depending on how players perform. As for the defence. We were promoted with a poor one and were relegated with a poor one. Interesting to see what happens.
As we have fifty mile an hour winds tomorrow, get your excuses ready now. It was the wind that beat us.
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on August 08, 2019, 10:31:27 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:20:42 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on August 08, 2019, 10:19:32 PM
It was a loan
Loan with and option to buy at 10 mill. Thanks for your contribution!
You said we snatched him for 10M, we did not, it was a loan.
Even better then we snatched him for nothing!!
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:38:56 PM
Let's not forget we got Stuart Gray back
Having shaky defense, what does it say about Stuart Gray, the defense trainer? Maybe SJ had right not to extend his contract? (And than made mistake by bringing in no one instead).
Or our defensive players are simply old dogs that cannot learn new tricks? With Stuart Grey or without.
If I were TK, I would first get the first-class coaching staff. Guess they cost a lot less than a decent player nowadays.
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 08, 2019, 10:14:24 PM
Today we manage to snatch a promotion rivals best striker for £10m making them considerably weaker and a lot of fans are still upset.
I know we needed a defender but Ream was player of the season the year we went up. How do we know he won't regain that form?
I stand with you on this.
Well I imagine the money is in the Kitty for the centre back so maybe we have a late Christmas present to look forward to in the January Window.
This loan is different in the way it went through,we agreed a fee of 10 million for him,but because of the levy carry on,Cardiff and it was actually very good of them made it a loan and the fee paid in Jan.
Don't think there is an option, he is our player and we have to pay for him come Jan.
That's what I've been told anyway.