Highway Code change's....not sure how that's going to work in London - it's a free for all...
All comes into force this weekend, still no provision for privately owned e scooters
I'm guessing Devon roads will be calmer...that is - until I arrive
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 06:46:29 PM
Highway Code change's....not sure how that's going to work in London - it's a free for all...
All comes into force this weekend, still no provision for privately owned e scooters
I'm guessing Devon roads will be calmer...that is - until I arrive
The crazy cab driver increases Devon's insurance rates by 50%.
After over 30 years in USA I will be back in UK next month for about a year. I think I will stick to walking, bus and train. Don't want to risk the roads with the crazy Brit drivers.
Quote from: ianthailand on January 28, 2022, 07:03:13 PM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 06:46:29 PM
Highway Code change's....not sure how that's going to work in London - it's a free for all...
All comes into force this weekend, still no provision for privately owned e scooters
I'm guessing Devon roads will be calmer...that is - until I arrive
The crazy cab driver increases Devon's insurance rates by 50%.
I do like a U-turn
The new rules are an absolute nonsense. :doh: :031:
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Quote from: bog on January 28, 2022, 09:05:48 PM
The new rules are an absolute nonsense. :doh: :031:
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The emphasis is on who's insured, not the actual road user
The cart should be ok. It's the horse 🐴 that I would be more worried about
I hope these rules do not effect my Horse and Cart.
Quote from: Andy S on January 29, 2022, 12:53:40 AM
The cart should be ok. It's the horse 🐴 that I would be more worried about
What makes it more worrying is the horse only comes out after dark, it's a nightmare.
When I go to cross a road now, I see confusion in the drivers eyes...
Scary Panorama recently.
Hardly any traffic cops left. Many, all in some areas, speed cameras no longer working - lack of funding stopped them being updated 10 years ago.
Rise in drink driving accidents, with fewer convictions.
Smart motorways are highly dangerous, with the essential technology to prevent accidents if you break down often non existent, and not enough safety places, they are death traps.
I was hit by vehicles when riding my bike during the first lockdown twice in the space of a few weeks - the first time I've ever been struck by a vehicle in all my years of cycling.
I was very lucky. Once was sideways by a bus, trying to pass me on an empty main road narrowed by a traffic island, and I was blinded by the sun as he came past with inches to spare - so maybe partially at fault - though the driver could have easily waited seconds for me to clear the island, then could have overtaken easily.
The second, was even more scary, on a empty rural road, crossing a t junction with the right of way, a taxi came flying out of the side road as if from nowhere, to hit me side on. But luckily for me just hit my back wheel.
I was very visible, and it was light anyway. Must have been on his phone as these private company cab drivers often are.
I walked away from both accidents with only cuts and bruises, and needing a new back wheel after the second.
But I definitely feel more wary on the roads now. They say they want to encourage cycling, but i don't blame people for being too scared to do it.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 08:47:23 PM
Quote from: ianthailand on January 28, 2022, 07:03:13 PM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 06:46:29 PM
Highway Code change's....not sure how that's going to work in London - it's a free for all...
All comes into force this weekend, still no provision for privately owned e scooters
I'm guessing Devon roads will be calmer...that is - until I arrive
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 08:47:23 PM
Quote from: ianthailand on January 28, 2022, 07:03:13 PM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 06:46:29 PM
Highway Code change's....not sure how that's going to work in London - it's a free for all...
All comes into force this weekend, still no provision for privately owned e scooters
I'm guessing Devon roads will be calmer...that is - until I arrive
The crazy cab driver increases Devon's insurance rates by 50%.
I do like a U-turn
The crazy cab driver increases Devon's insurance rates by 50%.
I do like a U-turn
As long as you don't make a Ewe turn, a bit close to Wales in Devon and all those sheep.
Someone's obviously read the new highway code.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1486624333640257540
LOVL! :54: :005:
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Must have been on his phone as these private company cab drivers often are.
[/quote] And most of the cyclists I see don't stop at red lights even when people are crossing the road, go on pavements so they avoid red lights and weave in an out of traffic.
Cyclists now allowed to undertake on the inside.... it's called undertaker for a reason.....lorries can't see me with a bleeding yellow light in - how they going to see a cyclist without light's
If all road users used the roads correctly then there would be far few accidents. From cyclists not stopping, pedestrians just walking across the road without looking and motorists driving in the middle lane on an empty motorway everybody has to take personal responsibility for what they do.
Quote from: cookieg on January 29, 2022, 11:17:23 AM
If all road users used the roads correctly then there would be far few accidents. From cyclists not stopping, pedestrians just walking across the road without looking and motorists driving in the middle lane on an empty motorway everybody has to take personal responsibility for what they do.
That's the point.... it's only the insured that will be liable
Quote from: RaySmith on January 29, 2022, 03:03:00 AM
Quote from: cookieg on January 29, 2022, 09:59:30 AM
Must have been on his phone as these private company cab drivers often are.
And most of the cyclists I see don't stop at red lights even when people are crossing the road, go on pavements so they avoid red lights and weave in an out of traffic.
and, members on here excluded obviously, ride the wrong way down one-way street, 2 or more abreast on narrow roads. Basically, there are good an bad road users of all kinds, though cyclist and motorcyclists have a higher likelihood of serious injury, way above a car driver spilling his/her coffee.
Quote from: ianthailand on January 29, 2022, 03:16:59 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 08:47:23 PM
Quote from: ianthailand on January 28, 2022, 07:03:13 PM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 06:46:29 PM
Highway Code change's....not sure how that's going to work in London - it's a free for all...
All comes into force this weekend, still no provision for privately owned e scooters
I'm guessing Devon roads will be calmer...that is - until I arrive
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 08:47:23 PM
Quote from: ianthailand on January 28, 2022, 07:03:13 PM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 06:46:29 PM
Highway Code change's....not sure how that's going to work in London - it's a free for all...
All comes into force this weekend, still no provision for privately owned e scooters
I'm guessing Devon roads will be calmer...that is - until I arrive
The crazy cab driver increases Devon's insurance rates by 50%.
I do like a U-turn
The crazy cab driver increases Devon's insurance rates by 50%.
I do like a U-turn
As long as you don't make a Ewe turn, a bit close to Wales in Devon and all those sheep.
I couldn't make a ewe turn, but I reckon I could make it's eyes water
Worse than the cyclists are those electric scooters. You simply can't see them in the dark.
Quote from: blingo on January 29, 2022, 02:01:28 PM
Worse than the cyclists are those electric scooters. You simply can't see them in the dark.
The privately owned one's are completely illegal....they cant be insured... I'd also ban the rental one's - untill helmet's, hi viz, light's & insurance were compulsory
When the car hit me, it was quiet rural road, entering a village with a school and SLOW and 'caution children' signs and speed bumps,
curving round to the right, with another intersecting road on the left, with a white line across it, indicating my right away.
But I checked as I crossed, and nothing was visible. As I was turning into the right hand bend, I heard a vehicle and hurried to tried to get across into the side of the road, but the car, a private minicab, hit my back wheel straight on, destroying it, but I was very lucky.
It was daylight, and how he didn't see me I don't know - had to have been on his phone, as minicab drivers often are, taking bookings as they drive - I know because I use them a lot.
You're driving up a straight road with no traffic, clear day, and there is a cyclist sideways on with right of way ahead of you, with a flashing back light and fluorescent jacket - and you don't see him!
Similarly in the bus incident, it was a clear stretch of main road, no other traffic, the bus driver couldn't possibly avoid seeing me, and my flashing back light.
He came past with about two inches to spare, because the road narrowed for a traffic island, just as I was blinded by the sun, but he only had to hold back a couple of seconds and I would have been past the island, and he could have had plenty of space to pass me.
They want more people to cycle for obvious reasons - gridlock, environment, health of the population, etc,. but don't do anything about making the roads safe, like in Holland or Denmark for instance.
Now the roads are more dangerous than ever - look at figures for cyclists and pedestrians killed.
I grew up at a time when there were more bikes on the road locally in SE London where I grew up, than cars, and I can't drive and don't own a car.
The bicycle is a legitimate mode of travel here.
Have a nice day.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 06:46:29 PM
Highway Code change's....not sure how that's going to work in London - it's a free for all...
All comes into force this weekend, still no provision for privately owned e scooters
I'm guessing Devon roads will be calmer...that is - until I arrive
How's the move to Devon going mate?
Drove up from Newton Abbot yesterday nic eeasy drive up but had to call in to Putney ☹️ 3/4 hour to get down Putney high st no wonder I prefer away games.
Quote from: f321ffc on January 30, 2022, 08:47:02 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 06:46:29 PM
Highway Code change's....not sure how that's going to work in London - it's a free for all...
All comes into force this weekend, still no provision for privately owned e scooters
I'm guessing Devon roads will be calmer...that is - until I arrive
How's the move to Devon going mate?
Drove up from Newton Abbot yesterday nic eeasy drive up but had to call in to Putney ☹️ 3/4 hour to get down Putney high st no wonder I prefer away games.
The traffic was awful yesterday with multiple disruptions & road works. The way things are going I think everyone will have to park on Putney Heath.
Quote from: f321ffc on January 30, 2022, 08:47:02 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 06:46:29 PM
Highway Code change's....not sure how that's going to work in London - it's a free for all...
All comes into force this weekend, still no provision for privately owned e scooters
I'm guessing Devon roads will be calmer...that is - until I arrive
How's the move to Devon going mate?
Drove up from Newton Abbot yesterday nic eeasy drive up but had to call in to Putney ☹️ 3/4 hour to get down Putney high st no wonder I prefer away games.
Looking like February for the move - will apply for a Taxi licence.....all being well, work part time & drink Tribute - but not at the same time..... It's going to be an interesting time.... Been looking at visiting the cottage....park at Barnes and wander down....
Quote from: blingo on January 29, 2022, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: ianthailand on January 29, 2022, 03:16:59 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 08:47:23 PM
Quote from: ianthailand on January 28, 2022, 07:03:13 PM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 06:46:29 PM
Highway Code change's....not sure how that's going to work in London - it's a free for all...
All comes into force this weekend, still no provision for privately owned e scooters
I'm guessing Devon roads will be calmer...that is - until I arrive
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 08:47:23 PM
Quote from: ianthailand on January 28, 2022, 07:03:13 PM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 06:46:29 PM
Highway Code change's....not sure how that's going to work in London - it's a free for all...
All comes into force this weekend, still no provision for privately owned e scooters
I'm guessing Devon roads will be calmer...that is - until I arrive
The crazy cab driver increases Devon's insurance rates by 50%.
I do like a U-turn
The crazy cab driver increases Devon's insurance rates by 50%.
I do like a U-turn
As long as you don't make a Ewe turn, a bit close to Wales in Devon and all those sheep.
I couldn't make a ewe turn, but I reckon I could make it's eyes water
Bragging again Blingo. Put the wellingtons away.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 30, 2022, 09:28:59 AM
Quote from: f321ffc on January 30, 2022, 08:47:02 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 06:46:29 PM
Highway Code change's....not sure how that's going to work in London - it's a free for all...
All comes into force this weekend, still no provision for privately owned e scooters
I'm guessing Devon roads will be calmer...that is - until I arrive
How's the move to Devon going mate?
Drove up from Newton Abbot yesterday nic eeasy drive up but had to call in to Putney ☹️ 3/4 hour to get down Putney high st no wonder I prefer away games.
Looking like February for the move - will apply for a Taxi licence.....all being well, work part time & drink Tribute - but not at the same time..... It's going to be an interesting time.... Been looking at visiting the cottage....park at Barnes and wander down....
Best of luck mate. It will take years off you. Best years of my life since i retired, 23years ago last 12 in Thailand.
Quote from: ianthailand on January 30, 2022, 09:58:46 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 30, 2022, 09:28:59 AM
Quote from: f321ffc on January 30, 2022, 08:47:02 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 06:46:29 PM
Highway Code change's....not sure how that's going to work in London - it's a free for all...
All comes into force this weekend, still no provision for privately owned e scooters
I'm guessing Devon roads will be calmer...that is - until I arrive
How's the move to Devon going mate?
Drove up from Newton Abbot yesterday nic eeasy drive up but had to call in to Putney ☹️ 3/4 hour to get down Putney high st no wonder I prefer away games.
Looking like February for the move - will apply for a Taxi licence.....all being well, work part time & drink Tribute - but not at the same time..... It's going to be an interesting time.... Been looking at visiting the cottage....park at Barnes and wander down....
Best of luck mate. It will take years off you. Best years of my life since i retired, 23years ago last 12 in Thailand.
Cheers Ian....been looking at flights to Bahtland - but everything is so confusing... sandbox rules or something....for someone that isn't the cleverest (me), I don't understand any of it ..will pop into Trailfinders & see if they can shed some light..... I get confused when someone jumps in the cab & pays by using their watch..... How's the local & bigger economy?.... London hasn't been London since 2019.... there's no pattern's anymore... I pick up people that work from home & 90%+ of them aren't going to change - they'd rather change job's.... I'm hearing lot's of rumours about the future of Canary Wharf.... In my trade if you want a new hybrid 6 seater cab, with finance it's around £84k....so, you spend 3 year's of your life studying the knowledge (not earning a penny), then when you get your badge you lumber yourself with £84k debt, plus insurance, maintenance etc before you can buy yourself a sandwich - let alone a mortgage & household bill's
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 30, 2022, 10:37:19 AM
Quote from: ianthailand on January 30, 2022, 09:58:46 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 30, 2022, 09:28:59 AM
Quote from: f321ffc on January 30, 2022, 08:47:02 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 06:46:29 PM
Highway Code change's....not sure how that's going to work in London - it's a free for all...
All comes into force this weekend, still no provision for privately owned e scooters
I'm guessing Devon roads will be calmer...that is - until I arrive
How's the move to Devon going mate?
Drove up from Newton Abbot yesterday nic eeasy drive up but had to call in to Putney ☹️ 3/4 hour to get down Putney high st no wonder I prefer away games.
Looking like February for the move - will apply for a Taxi licence.....all being well, work part time & drink Tribute - but not at the same time..... It's going to be an interesting time.... Been looking at visiting the cottage....park at Barnes and wander down....
Best of luck mate. It will take years off you. Best years of my life since i retired, 23years ago last 12 in Thailand.
Cheers Ian....been looking at flights to Bahtland - but everything is so confusing... sandbox rules or something....for someone that isn't the cleverest (me), I don't understand any of it ..will pop into Trailfinders & see if they can shed some light..... I get confused when someone jumps in the cab & pays by using their watch..... How's the local & bigger economy?.... London hasn't been London since 2019.... there's no pattern's anymore... I pick up people that work from home & 90%+ of them aren't going to change - they'd rather change job's.... I'm hearing lot's of rumours about the future of Canary Wharf.... In my trade if you want a new hybrid 6 seater cab, with finance it's around £84k....so, you spend 3 year's of your life studying the knowledge (not earning a penny), then when you get your badge you lumber yourself with £84k debt, plus insurance, maintenance etc before you can buy yourself a sandwich - let alone a mortgage & household bill's
Bloody hell that's tough. Glad i worked for BP and just turned up for and they paid me. With regard to the sandbox (i thought someone had bought a new kitten) i must admit i don't know what it entailed but, i believe it is being relaxed or stopped. Thailand need tourists as much of it's economy is based on it. Plenty of Vlogs re Thailand on the internet with lots of tourist info. Best of luck. New house, holidays in Thailand, going part-time. Never met a poor bookie or cab driver!!!!
I really think some people who only ever drive should give cycling a go - experience what it's like to ride without mirrors, or a seatbelt, or a metal shield around you, whilst an aggressive driver whips past unforgivingly and nearly takes you out. As someone who does both, I know that being a victim of road rage while I'm driving could t bother me less; having an angry driver behind you when you're on a bike becomes a life-threatening event - and it's hard to understand that feeling until you've experienced it.
I'm not saying that there aren't annoying cyclists out there - like all walks of life, there are wronguns everywhere - but the lack of empathy some people behind the wheel of a car show to those on a bicycle is quite shocking. At worst, you've been slowed down by a minute or two - it really isn't worth the stress, or putting someone else in danger with your anger...
Quote from: Craven Mad on January 30, 2022, 12:34:34 PM
I really think some people who only ever drive should give cycling a go - experience what it's like to ride without mirrors, or a seatbelt, or a metal shield around you, whilst an aggressive driver whips past unforgivingly and nearly takes you out. As someone who does both, I know that being a victim of road rage while I'm driving could t bother me less; having an angry driver behind you when you're on a bike becomes a life-threatening event - and it's hard to understand that feeling until you've experienced it.
I'm not saying that there aren't annoying cyclists out there - like all walks of life, there are wronguns everywhere - but the lack of empathy some people behind the wheel of a car show to those on a bicycle is quite shocking. At worst, you've been slowed down by a minute or two - it really isn't worth the stress, or putting someone else in danger with your anger...
Where's the best place to cycle
Quote from: RaySmith on January 30, 2022, 06:39:08 AM
When the car hit me, it was quiet rural road, entering a village with a school and SLOW and 'caution children' signs and speed bumps,
curving round to the right, with another intersecting road on the left, with a white line across it, indicating my right away.
But I checked as I crossed, and nothing was visible. As I was turning into the right hand bend, I heard a vehicle and hurried to tried to get across into the side of the road, but the car, a private minicab, hit my back wheel straight on, destroying it, but I was very lucky.
It was daylight, and how he didn't see me I don't know - had to have been on his phone, as minicab drivers often are, taking bookings as they drive - I know because I use them a lot.
You're driving up a straight road with no traffic, clear day, and there is a cyclist sideways on with right of way ahead of you, with a flashing back light and fluorescent jacket - and you don't see him!
Similarly in the bus incident, it was a clear stretch of main road, no other traffic, the bus driver couldn't possibly avoid seeing me, and my flashing back light.
He came past with about two inches to spare, because the road narrowed for a traffic island, just as I was blinded by the sun, but he only had to hold back a couple of seconds and I would have been past the island, and he could have had plenty of space to pass me.
They want more people to cycle for obvious reasons - gridlock, environment, health of the population, etc,. but don't do anything about making the roads safe, like in Holland or Denmark for instance.
Now the roads are more dangerous than ever - look at figures for cyclists and pedestrians killed.
I grew up at a time when there were more bikes on the road locally in SE London where I grew up, than cars, and I can't drive and don't own a car.
The bicycle is a legitimate mode of travel here.
Have a nice day.
While stationary sitting on a Taxi rank reading my paper & smoking my pipe I've been hit by 3 buses, twice in the same year & once a couple of year's back...all 3 time's I was told by the bus drivers that they didn't see me..... On the Calie Road, stopped at a zebra crossing ( yep, there are zebra's in North London)....my cab is then hit from behind and I'm being pushed up the Calie Road by an articulated lorry.... Same answer... didn't see me.... Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to prove any point - but people are sometimes oblivious to their surroundings.....not saying it's wrong or right..... In my opinion all road users should take advanced driving tests....look at (so called) smart motorways - they frighten the living daylights out of me
Quote from: f321ffc on January 30, 2022, 08:47:02 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 28, 2022, 06:46:29 PM
Highway Code change's....not sure how that's going to work in London - it's a free for all...
All comes into force this weekend, still no provision for privately owned e scooters
I'm guessing Devon roads will be calmer...that is - until I arrive
How's the move to Devon going mate?
Drove up from Newton Abbot yesterday nic eeasy drive up but had to call in to Putney ☹️ 3/4 hour to get down Putney high st no wonder I prefer away games.
Do you get down the cottage regular
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 30, 2022, 12:43:39 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on January 30, 2022, 12:34:34 PM
I really think some people who only ever drive should give cycling a go - experience what it's like to ride without mirrors, or a seatbelt, or a metal shield around you, whilst an aggressive driver whips past unforgivingly and nearly takes you out. As someone who does both, I know that being a victim of road rage while I'm driving could t bother me less; having an angry driver behind you when you're on a bike becomes a life-threatening event - and it's hard to understand that feeling until you've experienced it.
I'm not saying that there aren't annoying cyclists out there - like all walks of life, there are wronguns everywhere - but the lack of empathy some people behind the wheel of a car show to those on a bicycle is quite shocking. At worst, you've been slowed down by a minute or two - it really isn't worth the stress, or putting someone else in danger with your anger...
Where's the best place to cycle
Anywhere with a cycle lane!
Denmark and Belgium have been the best places for me - even their cities are great to cycle in.
I used to commute on a bike in London and each day was hair raising.
I'm pleased with the updates to the Highway Code, but really think both sides (cyclists and dricers) could do more to be understanding...