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Title: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Fulham 442 on March 15, 2022, 08:39:39 PM
We're under the cosh atm. Hope we up our game soon!
Title: Observations so far
Post by: Maidstone Lee on March 15, 2022, 08:44:10 PM
2nd to a lot of 50/50's so far
Lots of misplaced passes
Our left side has been ineffective
Allowing them too much space
WBA take forever to take a throw in
Lucky not to concede a penalty
Our boys need new boots, slipping over a hell of a lot

We look fatigued, big second with a few changes needed!

COYW
Title: Re: Observations so far
Post by: fcfulham55 on March 15, 2022, 08:46:36 PM
I think we're having a mare.  Thank god we're only playing West Brom. We'd be 4 or 5 down against a half decent team!
Title: Re: Observations so far
Post by: Andyb on March 15, 2022, 08:47:12 PM
Not controlling midfield at all
Title: Re: Observations so far
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on March 15, 2022, 08:47:37 PM
Tete needs to come on for neco he looks tired and Mitro needs a rocket up the backside
Title: Re: Observations so far
Post by: WindyCity on March 15, 2022, 08:48:46 PM
Very poor first half.  Lucky to be 0-0 at HT.  Ream having very good game.  Everyone else seems to be sleepwalking thru this match.  Time to wake up boys!
Title: Re: Observations so far
Post by: FFCFOREVER on March 15, 2022, 08:49:04 PM
So disjointed so far. We will bury them 2nd half.
Title: Re: Observations so far
Post by: Fulham Tup North on March 15, 2022, 08:49:04 PM
I think the International break might be coming at the right time....
COYW
Title: Re: Observations so far
Post by: Fulham1959 on March 15, 2022, 08:49:23 PM
Well played Rodak.
Title: Re: Observations so far
Post by: Maidstone Lee on March 15, 2022, 08:49:48 PM
Quote from: FFCFOREVER on March 15, 2022, 08:49:04 PM
So disjointed so far. We will bury them 2nd half.

God I hope so!
Title: Re: Observations so far
Post by: PaulJ123 on March 15, 2022, 08:50:11 PM
Shocking half. Just like Saturday.

I do think Marco doesn't adapt his tactics whatsoever to the opposition. It's a fear for next season as our players aren't going to be the best in the league so we'll need to change how we play.

This Harrison Reed as a CM/RW hybrid just does not work and I don't know why it's still a thing.

Williams and Fab have been rubbish.

Only Rodak and Ream did ok there.
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Fulham Tup North on March 15, 2022, 08:51:46 PM
Ream has been solid.... and thank God for Rodak...
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Deeping_white on March 15, 2022, 08:51:48 PM
Reed is an overrated CM which you find out when he's not playing next to someone creative and is unable to positively influence a game that doesn't require him to just run around tackling people, and even his positioning has been rubbish for quite a while because he's regularly pulled away from where he should be
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Somerset Fulham on March 15, 2022, 08:52:26 PM
Thankfully we've got this weekend off I think.
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Lighthouse on March 15, 2022, 08:54:22 PM
First time for a long time that we haven't had one effort on goal and are frankly looking the worst I have seen all season.
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: davew on March 15, 2022, 08:54:31 PM
I think our players are starting their break a day too earlier, pathetic performance so far or is that the Baggies want the 3pts more than we do? Got to do better in the 2nd half or there will only be 1 result and not the 1 we want!
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: davew on March 15, 2022, 08:54:46 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on March 15, 2022, 08:54:22 PM
First time for a long time that we haven't had one effort on goal and are frankly looking the worst I have seen all season.
+1
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: perry geyton on March 15, 2022, 08:56:07 PM
Challobah out TC in
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: davew on March 15, 2022, 08:57:37 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on March 15, 2022, 08:56:07 PM
Challobah out TC in

Can't argue with that + Reid out Cav in and Mitro out and Muniz in.
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: 70sPimlico on March 15, 2022, 08:58:35 PM
Completely agree about Neco. Looks very tired. Tete should come on.
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Maidstone Lee on March 15, 2022, 08:59:40 PM
Mitro looks tired. Reckon we need Tete on for Williams.
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: SuffolkWhite on March 15, 2022, 09:00:53 PM
Agree with all the above, just not on it and need a change in midfield. How often does Reed and Chalabar work? Bring on Cairny.
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Sgt Fulham on March 15, 2022, 09:01:39 PM
At least I don't have to watch that half again. Ream and Rodak have been fantastic, the rest not so much.
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: 3rdgenfan on March 15, 2022, 09:12:09 PM
Bobby Reid has been terrible
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Fulham 442 on March 15, 2022, 09:23:34 PM
The whole team has been terrible all night and now we're a goal down ..
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: SuffolkWhite on March 15, 2022, 09:24:26 PM
Well that's a kick up the backside!
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Andyb on March 15, 2022, 09:24:29 PM
Deserve to lose this
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Blawarmy on March 15, 2022, 09:24:48 PM
Don't we want to get promotion sewn up quickly [emoji849]
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Logicalman on March 15, 2022, 09:26:19 PM
We are missing Neeskins, so very, very, much. We offer nothing down the left, we can get the ball to line but nothing that resembles a worthy cross.

Yet again, 4-5 passes back and forth between defenders and we give a goal away.
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Maidstone Lee on March 15, 2022, 09:26:34 PM
Just like to add that Robinson is crap. Pretty much everyone else has been poor as well.
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Denver Fulham on March 15, 2022, 09:27:57 PM
We've been horrible for 70 mins. Our passing and on-ball touches have been atrocious.
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Yamus on March 15, 2022, 09:40:50 PM
If Robinson is the best left back we have got God help us.
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: FFC1987 on March 15, 2022, 09:44:13 PM
In a fixture list where Bournemouth played Reading at home, and we played WestBrom away, for us to lose a one point margin is actually a decent return to be honest. Not happy about result/performance, but again, this is the kind of week you expect Bournemouth to make some ground up if we drop points and they haven't.
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Andyb on March 15, 2022, 09:47:21 PM
TC is awful, had 2 decent seasons with us thats it. Never understand big love for him
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Fulham 442 on March 15, 2022, 09:48:36 PM
5 minutes for us to do something...
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Fulham 442 on March 15, 2022, 09:51:32 PM
At least Reading equalised!
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Fulham 442 on March 15, 2022, 09:53:20 PM
Goodnight Vienna! How crap was that...so disappointing..
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Denver Fulham on March 15, 2022, 09:53:31 PM
Overall, that was our worst performance of the season by a pretty decent margin, IMO.
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: 3 Cherries on March 15, 2022, 09:53:54 PM
WBA deserved the win - could have should have scored more

Worries me is Sliva never has a plan B...
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: love4ffc on March 15, 2022, 09:54:00 PM
Possibly the worst match I have seen from Fulham this season. As others have said no real intensity and I lost track of the amount of way ward passes.  Rodak & Ream the only players who looked up for it.  Really wish TC, Cav and Muniz would have come on sooner.    Loved it when Muniz went all the way back to help defend. 
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: FFC1987 on March 15, 2022, 09:55:32 PM
Not sure how you can blame Silva too much when so many of our players just showed a complete lack of desire to do anything. For people on here surprised some of us think we need some CM/DM's in, this is the kind of game that shows we'll massively struggle if we don't invest.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Sgt Fulham on March 15, 2022, 09:55:45 PM
I'm dreading next season, as good as this one has been. This game is a perfect example of why. WBA didn't exactly have to do much but wait for mistakes.
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on March 15, 2022, 09:55:47 PM
We got what we deserved tonight which was nothing.
Far too casual, build ups too slow which allowed Albion time to get behind the ball. 
Poor tactics and the application was mediocre.
Work rate off the ball in the first half was unacceptable almost lazy.
Must try harder,
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: bencher on March 15, 2022, 09:56:19 PM
I missed the first half, but in the second half we had a couple of good chances, especially Mitro's miss. But I could also tell it was one of those games in which we would not score.

The most annoying thing is now we don't play for ages.
Title: Re: Grim viewing so far, Observations so far?
Post by: FFCFOREVER on March 15, 2022, 09:56:20 PM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on March 15, 2022, 09:53:31 PM
Overall, that was our worst performance of the season by a pretty decent margin, IMO.
No way. Not worse than Coventry away. You have a short memory.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: fcfulham55 on March 15, 2022, 09:57:07 PM
Not that we would've scored, but the inconsistency with stoppage time is criminal... they wasted 3 of the 5 minutes and he adds just 17 seconds?!
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: RoyTund on March 15, 2022, 09:57:50 PM
Quote from: FFCFOREVER on March 15, 2022, 09:56:20 PM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on March 15, 2022, 09:53:31 PM
Overall, that was our worst performance of the season by a pretty decent margin, IMO.
No way. Not worse than Coventry away. You have a short memory.

I would agree that for a complete 90 mins this was worse
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Southcoastffc on March 15, 2022, 09:57:55 PM
Quote from: bencher on March 15, 2022, 09:56:19 PM
I missed the first half, but in the second half we had a couple of good chances, especially Mitro's miss. But I could also tell it was one of those games in which we would not score.

The most annoying thing is now we don't play for ages.
on the contrary. Gives us time to reset. Badly needed on the evidence of Barnsley and tonight.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Fulham Tup North on March 15, 2022, 09:58:05 PM
The scary thing is... if we go up, which we should do... we need 8 or 9 first team quality players ..... or we will be relegate again by Christmas.... they all look knackered....  🥺🥺
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Wingnut on March 15, 2022, 09:58:19 PM
Poor, really poor. A strong candidate for our worst performance of the season. No real intensity to our play, and I lost count of the amount of silly mistakes that we made. Rodak was MOTM, and Ream had an ok game. Rest of them were well below par. WBA deserved the points.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Gezza on March 15, 2022, 09:58:31 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on March 15, 2022, 09:54:00 PM
Possibly the worst match I have seen from Fulham this season. As others have said no real intensity and I lost track of the amount of way ward passes.  Rodak & Ream the only players who looked up for it.  Really wish TC, Cav and Muniz would have come on sooner.    Loved it when Muniz went all the way back to help defend. 






You weren't at Coventry then ?
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Logicalman on March 15, 2022, 09:59:03 PM
I honestly feel we were fortunate to just lose by one.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: SuffolkWhite on March 15, 2022, 10:00:00 PM
Sloppy play and the tempo is slowing game by game which has cost us tonight. We a have a break now to regroup.
COYW
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: New Kid on the Block on March 15, 2022, 10:00:24 PM
Brom deserved the win. Stil plenty if points spare, so nothing to panic about. We must start improving our performances however.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Deeping_white on March 15, 2022, 10:01:05 PM
Reed & Chalobah have the creativity of a brick wall. That game cried out for Seri or TC to start and both dropped a genuine 1/10 performance, coupled with BDR going into hiding on the left wing and Mitro sulking, was just a complete write off. We cannot win games playing 4-3-3 with Reed and Chalobah starting, we just have a complete lack of ball retention because Reed just runs about like a child who's had a pack of blue smarties, and Chalobah for all his physical presence has the touch of a cruise ship.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: MartyFFC on March 15, 2022, 10:01:52 PM
Fantastic ball from Robinson for their opener. Unbelievable passer of the ball
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Somerset Fulham on March 15, 2022, 10:02:54 PM
That was very poor but thankfully we don't play for a while now.  That looked like a tired side and the break should do us good.

On to the next one.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on March 15, 2022, 10:03:15 PM
It's the sharp end of the season now, almost every team has something to play for and the intensity has grown.
But we haven't raised our game, in fact we have lost our edge.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: ALG01 on March 15, 2022, 10:03:22 PM
Silva was entirely to blame
Challoba and reed is a ridiculously poor midfield. If you have seri and cairney, top class creative players, at least one of them has to play.

When tom came on we looked a different team and carv started to play. We invited them onto us and didn't ever look like we coped. Very very poor and a timely wake up call i hope

But as for silva, that was hopeless... brilliant season so far but tonight he was third rate, got it totally wrong.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: filham on March 15, 2022, 10:03:28 PM
A blank score sheet is terrible but worse is the fact that we hardly had a shot on target.
We were bad, a lot of work to be done on the training pitch if we are to avoid a defeat in the next match at Loftus Road.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Maidstone Lee on March 15, 2022, 10:05:23 PM
Reed is not an attacking CM I don't get why Silva persists with this. Mitro has been poor last 2 games, Chalobah was all over the place, Carvalho has been a passenger recently, Robinson was actually woeful and all our subs were way too late. So much to be annoyed about tonight that was dreadful. That team needed some rotation, Silva takes a lot of blame for that.

The tv remote may have been thrown after their goal. Time to sign off, night all.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Mince n Tatties on March 15, 2022, 10:06:00 PM
Poor performance.
Think a lot stems down to being way out in front at the top.
Citeh have been pegged right back,and Forest Green  Rovers who were 15 points clear in league 2,have had that gap halved.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: HV71 on March 15, 2022, 10:06:56 PM
Out muscled outfought  out thought - outrageous for a team so far ahead in the league
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Whitestone on March 15, 2022, 10:08:08 PM
Three away games in a week wasn't ideal and very little squad rotation didn't help. Some players looked knackered.  We missed Kebano. So much for squad depth. There were signs on Saturday and so I wasn't surprised the way the game panned out. Credit to West Brom who worked hard and raised their game to a level they have rarely shown lately.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Classic94 on March 15, 2022, 10:08:44 PM
Poor against Barnsley and even worse tonight - looked completely jaded from the outset.

The break undoubtedly comes at a good time. Regroup and come back better.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Mince n Tatties on March 15, 2022, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on March 15, 2022, 10:08:08 PM
Three away games in a week wasn't ideal and very little squad rotation didn't help. Some players looked knackered.  We missed Kebano. So much for squad depth. There were signs on Saturday and so I wasn't surprised the way the game panned out. Credit to West Brom who worked hard and raised their game to a level they have rarely shown lately.

After a poor start from Bruce,that's 2 wins and a draw from last 3....He might just sneak them into playoffs.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: blingo on March 15, 2022, 10:15:51 PM
First away game we've lost since October and Bournemouth dropped two points. Bad day at the office. Get over it and let's move on to the next game. We will tank at least one more team this season. COYW'S
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Mince n Tatties on March 15, 2022, 10:15:58 PM
With Kebano out,I'd bring Tete in at full back and play Neco further up.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: HV71 on March 15, 2022, 10:18:26 PM
Not good enough doesn't even get close to covering it! Radical surgery required - or straight back down . Not strong enough either mentally or physically.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: SP on March 15, 2022, 10:19:34 PM
I've concluded we threw tonight's match as the players want to secure promotion at QPR...............

(Best I could come up with)
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Sgt Fulham on March 15, 2022, 10:28:46 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 15, 2022, 10:15:58 PM
With Kebano out,I'd bring Tete in at full back and play Neco further up.

This is a good call, would like to see it.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Blawarmy on March 15, 2022, 10:30:13 PM
That was really, really bad. Bookies will probably start offering better prices on us getting promoted after the last 2 matches.  Hopefully just a wobble and not a capitulation.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Twig on March 15, 2022, 10:37:26 PM
Apart from an awful performance from all the starting eleven except Rodak and Ream, I think Silva showed worrying weakness and lack of judgement.  It was already clear that BDR is not a wide man but he set us up that way yet again. It very rapidly became clear Reed and Chalobah does not work but he persisted.  Sorry Marco that was dreadful from you.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Ruislip White on March 15, 2022, 10:44:04 PM
A complacent performance.  Lack of desire and work rate.  Before kick off I expected a hard fought draw and for Cherries to win, and therefore gain 2 points in us.  Table wise, an ok night.  Attitude wise - a worry.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Denver Fulham on March 15, 2022, 10:55:07 PM
Reed/Chalobah is just bad. Chalobah had a horrid game on-ball and Reed shouldn't be playing as an 8. I don't understand why we persist that way.

Overall, we were incredibly sloppy and slow to 50-50 balls. Just a really bad performance and I think Marco has to look at himself tonight. Players get the blame, but the lack of rotation and questionable midfield setup made us very much second-best. I didn't even think WBA was very good. They just tried much harder than we did.

Also, if you want to play BDR, why not swap him and Fabio for a bit? Bobby seems to play better centrally and Fab/Robinson may work better. In general, it looks like our last two opponents overplayed to our right to limit Wilson/Neco because they didn't think Robinson/BDR could hurt them. And they were correct.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: WolverineFFC on March 16, 2022, 01:38:05 AM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on March 15, 2022, 10:55:07 PM
Reed/Chalobah is just bad. Chalobah had a horrid game on-ball and Reed shouldn't be playing as an 8. I don't understand why we persist that way.

Overall, we were incredibly sloppy and slow to 50-50 balls. Just a really bad performance and I think Marco has to look at himself tonight. Players get the blame, but the lack of rotation and questionable midfield setup made us very much second-best. I didn't even think WBA was very good. They just tried much harder than we did.

Also, if you want to play BDR, why not swap him and Fabio for a bit? Bobby seems to play better centrally and Fab/Robinson may work better. In general, it looks like our last two opponents overplayed to our right to limit Wilson/Neco because they didn't think Robinson/BDR could hurt them. And they were correct.

I also noticed the defensive shift from the opposition. Against Barnsley I think it was more obvious, but they were definitely inviting AR to create and he just can't do it.

The other thing is that the last 2 matches were against 3 man back lines. Marco needs a major tactical rethink against these formations. His 4-1-4-1 doesn't work. Seems the front 7 has been able to cut off the entire middle of the pitch against us.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: clarkey on March 16, 2022, 04:22:51 AM
Worse aspect of this awful performance wqas Silva's body language and completely flat manner.

What was the problem ? We were woeful, he made some terrible subs and we missed Seri.Hard to name one player apart from Ream who was up for it. Better to have Tete than Neco and Williams, Bobby, Fab, Robinson,Harrison Reed, Wilson, Tosin, Cav (of course),Cairney and Chalobah all made far too many individual mistakes, looked disjointed and badly motivated.

Rare two bad performances in a  row, tired looking and ill prepared.This is not the way to finish the season.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Cobh Fulham Fan on March 16, 2022, 06:42:48 AM
 I sincerely hope we can explain away all of that as tiredness by the players. Shoolyard passing right back to the feet of our opponents. Mitro thinking he was playing at Twickenham slotting the ball over the bar.  How many games has it been now since he scored?   Thank god the wounded and black eyed Ream was on the pitch because if it wasnt for him and Rodak, we should have been 4 or 5 down.

Ok lets have a rest and see if they have some fight left in them after that!
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: SuffolkWhite on March 16, 2022, 06:54:50 AM
All said and done we are a fair few points ahead and as little as ten points may get us promoted in the remaining games.
COYW
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: KJS on March 16, 2022, 07:06:40 AM
Too many individuals had poor games plus we look jaded after 3 away games in a week, regroup and go again v the Ha Ha's COYW
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: davew on March 16, 2022, 07:07:22 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 15, 2022, 10:15:58 PM
With Kebano out,I'd bring Tete in at full back and play Neco further up.
So would I.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Grassy Noel on March 16, 2022, 07:22:16 AM
My abiding memory of this game is the number of times that the ball came off the back of Robinson's head and into touch leading to those interminable long throw-ins.He just seems incapable of judging the flight of a ball above waist height.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: rebel on March 16, 2022, 07:31:32 AM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on March 15, 2022, 10:55:07 PM
Reed/Chalobah is just bad. Chalobah had a horrid game on-ball and Reed shouldn't be playing as an 8. I don't understand why we persist that way.

Overall, we were incredibly sloppy and slow to 50-50 balls. Just a really bad performance and I think Marco has to look at himself tonight. Players get the blame, but the lack of rotation and questionable midfield setup made us very much second-best. I didn't even think WBA was very good. They just tried much harder than we did.

Also, if you want to play BDR, why not swap him and Fabio for a bit? Bobby seems to play better centrally and Fab/Robinson may work better. In general, it looks like our last two opponents overplayed to our right to limit Wilson/Neco because they didn't think Robinson/BDR could hurt them. And they were correct.

He brought Chalobah to the club, so a pet project, persist even if it doesn't work. A bit like Parker and Omonah.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Caedal on March 16, 2022, 07:32:55 AM
Whoever plays LB for the u23's needs to be given a chance
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: 3 Cherries on March 16, 2022, 10:04:30 AM

Marco's body language, refusal to rotate and lack of a creative response is a concern for when we get promoted...

Ream a rock with eight stitches - if WBA converted all their chances it could have been another Coventry

Still the Cherries could only draw 049:gif
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: joef on March 16, 2022, 10:40:07 AM
Looked very very tired.
This break is much needed
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: MartyFFC on March 16, 2022, 10:44:54 AM
I'm not blaming him for the defeat by any means, but I really, really can't comprehend Robinson's selection. Doesn't read the game, can't pass the ball, can't cross the ball. It's bizarre.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Maidstone Lee on March 16, 2022, 11:29:38 AM
Quote from: MartyFFC on March 16, 2022, 10:44:54 AM
I'm not blaming him for the defeat by any means, but I really, really can't comprehend Robinson's selection. Doesn't read the game, can't pass the ball, can't cross the ball. It's bizarre.

He has a odd running style (gait I think they call it) and he never looks comfortable with the ball, especially when in full stride. He looked some player in the first few months when he joined but after that red card against Chelsea he has slowly declined. His passing and crossing ability leave a lot to be desired too, think he would benefit from a rest. Just wish we had a better LB option then Bryan, I wonder what this Larkeche is like? I would imagine this will be a position that TK and Marco will want to upgrade on next season.
Title: Re: Post match WBA v FFC thoughts. - Not Good Enough!
Post by: Grassy Noel on March 16, 2022, 12:56:57 PM
Whenever Robinson is praised it seems to be because of his speed  of recovery (although it did not get Ream out of trouble in the first half when Rodak had to save the day)
There is plenty of ability in his forward running- the problem comes when he has to take the ball with him because he is so one-legged. If he goes to the right he quickly loses control of the ball and if goes to his good side then he finds himself in the way of Kebano who is forced inside.I feel that as  result we do not get the very best output from our winger.Surely Neco who is fairly two footed should play LB in preference to Tete.