I was at the Putney end for this classic a young Les Barrett, St John's punch on Pearson. Not a spectator football shirt in sight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJdjhgDUtp0
The good old days, i was standing on the terraces at the Riverside and i dropped a half a crown on the packed terracing which i could never find.
So if anyone did pick it up, and it's dated 1958 it is definitely mine, thank you.
Please no jokes about you finding a 1957 half a crown so it cannot be mine, your anticipated cooperation is appreciated.
Quote from: Dodgin on February 14, 2023, 11:28:59 AM
I was at the Putney end for this classic a young Les Barrett, St John's punch on Pearson. Not a spectator football shirt in sight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJdjhgDUtp0
As was I and I remember not just Barrett's goal but the picture in the papers of it showing the newish white Mitre ball. Had to get one...
I was there on the riverside terrace, quite near to the StJohn fisticuffs. I remember that Steve Earle's goal was hotly contested by Liverpool as having an element of handball in it.
Nevertheless, with Liverpool top and us bottom, it was a great time to start our renaissance that year which got us out of what looked to be certain relegation.
As a member of the Old Sods' Army I sometimes can't remember what happened a couple of days ago, but that game has survived 57 years in my fuddled old brain.
Quote from: ron on February 14, 2023, 01:23:40 PM
I was there on the riverside terrace, quite near to the StJohn fisticuffs. I remember that Steve Earle's goal was hotly contested by Liverpool as having an element of handball in it.
Nevertheless, with Liverpool top and us bottom, it was a great time to start our renaissance that year which got us out of what looked to be certain relegation.
As a member of the Old Sods' Army I sometimes can't remember what happened a couple of days ago, but that game has survived 57 years in my fuddled old brain.
Do you remember picking up my half a crown ? It's got the Queens head on it.
Such a joy to see a game where there was no diving or theatrics. Players getting knocked over or tripping and getting back up and on with the game again. I almost forgot that was how games were played.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 14, 2023, 01:35:35 PM
Quote from: ron on February 14, 2023, 01:23:40 PM
I was there on the riverside terrace, quite near to the StJohn fisticuffs. I remember that Steve Earle's goal was hotly contested by Liverpool as having an element of handball in it.
Nevertheless, with Liverpool top and us bottom, it was a great time to start our renaissance that year which got us out of what looked to be certain relegation.
As a member of the Old Sods' Army I sometimes can't remember what happened a couple of days ago, but that game has survived 57 years in my fuddled old brain.
Do you remember picking up my half a crown ? It's got the Queens head on it.
The bloke behind me beat me to it. I saw him after the game spending it in Taylor's Eel and Pie shop in Hammersmith.
I was in the Putney end, had a great afternoon, remember before the game being approached by a group of Liverpudlians in sing songs voices saying "where's the chippy la" I had no idea what they were saying.
Quote from: ron on February 14, 2023, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 14, 2023, 01:35:35 PM
Quote from: ron on February 14, 2023, 01:23:40 PM
I was there on the riverside terrace, quite near to the StJohn fisticuffs. I remember that Steve Earle's goal was hotly contested by Liverpool as having an element of handball in it.
Nevertheless, with Liverpool top and us bottom, it was a great time to start our renaissance that year which got us out of what looked to be certain relegation.
As a member of the Old Sods' Army I sometimes can't remember what happened a couple of days ago, but that game has survived 57 years in my fuddled old brain.
Do you remember picking up my half a crown ? It's got the Queens head on it.
The bloke behind me beat me to it. I saw him after the game spending it in Taylor's Eel and Pie shop in Hammersmith.
Did he bear any resemblance to mince & tatties.
Now I know what John on the Fulhamweb is talking about.
Quote from: Cobh Fulham Fan on February 14, 2023, 02:06:56 PM
Such a joy to see a game where there was no diving or theatrics. Players getting knocked over or tripping and getting back up and on with the game again. I almost forgot that was how games were played.
My thoughts entirely, but in those days the players overall had good ethics and they let their football do the talking.
Not spending half the game on their backsides looking for free kicks, feigning injury and diving to seek to gain an advantage.
Only one sub and on a very muddy pitch.
Some of the players these days would not have survived 90 mins and some of them these days don't know what's it like to play 90 minutes week in and week out.
Many thanks for that, brings back memories of some very good Fulham players, how were we bottom of the table with that quality in our team.
I was at the match on the Hammy terracing and had a good view of the Pearson / St. John fisticuffs. It was clear at the end that even in those good old days the top teams hadn't learnt how to take a beating.
Unusual seeing Haynes in a number nine shirt and destroys the mythe that the number ten was tatooed to his back.
A lovely story at the time was about a formal poster outside a church in Liverpool that read "what will happen when the Lord comes" ,someone had written at the bottom in red crayon " St John will be moved to inside right"
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 14, 2023, 05:48:40 PM
Quote from: Cobh Fulham Fan on February 14, 2023, 02:06:56 PM
Such a joy to see a game where there was no diving or theatrics. Players getting knocked over or tripping and getting back up and on with the game again. I almost forgot that was how games were played.
My thoughts entirely, but in those days the players overall had good ethics and they let their football do the talking.
Not spending half the game on their backsides looking for free kicks, feigning injury and diving to seek to gain an advantage.
Only one sub and on a very muddy pitch.
Some of the players these days would not have survived 90 mins and some of them these days don't know what's it like to play 90 minutes week in and week out.
Can you imagine the reaction if Haynes or Tosh was told sorry sit out this game we are resting you.
How great to see this match again. I have little recollection of the game at all bar the score and the sending off. That happened in front of me and the memory of Pearson laid out like a corpse on a mortuary slab is one I've never erased!
I noticed that the dugouts were on the opposite side of the pitch, I can't remember when they were changed to the Riverside stand. Surprised that dressing rooms aren't in the new stand. I was at that game on the Riverside terrace, brings back good memories.
I am not sure if this was the genuine reason but i was told by some geezer who worked in the ticket office back in the day, that they moved the dugouts to the riverside because of the sun shining directly into the eyes of the management and coaches in the Dugouts.
I was there remember poncho on his back lol.
Quote from: Cobh Fulham Fan on February 14, 2023, 02:06:56 PM
Such a joy to see a game where there was no diving or theatrics. Players getting knocked over or tripping and getting back up and on with the game again. I almost forgot that was how games were played.
I dunno. Pancho went down like a sack of spuds, and standing almost in line, I'm not sure St John connected
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Two things that stuck out for me...
Kenneth taking about a 'Coupon Buster'.... which we still have today... which is why we love football...
But also, backpasses to the keeper... whenever he picks it up I keep expecting players to claim for the keeper picking it up... teams used to waste so much time doing that...
Quality match... thanks for posting...
COYW
Start of the real great escape.
I was down near the front, exactly in line with the event. wow, what memories.
I didn't start going to matches until after the World Cup so It would have been the following season. I do remember the muddy pitches and, the heavy balls. The game seemed slower then and the long ball most of the time was amazing. I'm sure the game will evolve as much again in the next 56 years. There was no Bias from Keneth wolstenholme either. The crowd were all crushed in but I don't think there was too much trouble. It was pay on the gate as well
My Dad used to slip the turnstile operator a few pence and hoist me over the turnstile. Those were the days.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on February 15, 2023, 02:21:40 PM
My Dad used to slip the turnstile operator a few pence and hoist me over the turnstile. Those were the days.
A rite of passage! :005:
Watching it, I forgot how good Boibby Robson was.
He had so much time spare on the ball
Was my first ever game . Never looked back after that !
Quote from: jarv on February 15, 2023, 01:06:05 PM
I was down near the front, exactly in line with the event. wow, what memories.
I must of been standing near you. I remember being near to the altercation. Thought Liverpool got away with a lot of fierce challenges. The muddy conditions certainly caused a few problems in controlling the ball. Just goes to show how good Haynes Robson Leggat Earle Cohen Barratt et al were even though we were bottom of the league at the time. Strange I never thought too much of Pearson at the time but other than the incident with St.John he played quite well. What would VAR have made of that match? 092.gif
We didn't need it then and we don't need it now. It causes more problems than it solves
Quote from: Ronnief on February 15, 2023, 07:15:40 PM
Quote from: jarv on February 15, 2023, 01:06:05 PM
I was down near the front, exactly in line with the event. wow, what memories.
I must of been standing near you. I remember being near to the altercation. Thought Liverpool got away with a lot of fierce challenges. The muddy conditions certainly caused a few problems in controlling the ball. Just goes to show how good Haynes Robson Leggat Earle Cohen Barratt et al were even though we were bottom of the league at the time. Strange I never thought too much of Pearson at the time but other than the incident with St.John he played quite well. What would VAR have made of that match? 092.gif
VAR would probably still be checking it over.
That was really interesting to watch. That field was horrible! Two questions:
1. When did keepers start wearing gloves?
2. When did yellow and red cards start being used?
George Cohen looked really good!
I was in the enclosure.Great post,cheers.
Quote from: FulhamKC on February 17, 2023, 12:27:23 AM
That was really interesting to watch. That field was horrible! Two questions:
1. When did keepers start wearing gloves?
2. When did yellow and red cards start being used?
George Cohen looked really good!
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Another question- when did people stop wearing ties to matches?
I know we like to look back at our youth and youthful heroes with fondness and nostalgia and I know this won't be a popular post on here - but the reality is that the game back then was incredibly primitive and unstructured compared to today - clearly partly down to the poorer pitches and balls, but watching that game through modern eyes, that was difficult viewing - players looked far less athletic, passing was aimless and passing sequences virtually non existent, all long balls and playing into channels. Although there is much to despise about todays football industry - the game itself is far superior both technically and tactically
Clearly non of this affected our enjoyment at the time because you don't always know what good looks like until you see it, and we didn't see it very often back then- we also enjoyed TV back then too - but like with football - you sometimes have to revisit the past to see how things have progressed
Quote from: FulhamKC on February 17, 2023, 12:27:23 AM
That was really interesting to watch. That field was horrible! Two questions:
1. When did keepers start wearing gloves?
2. When did yellow and red cards start being used?
George Cohen looked really good!
And when did half way line flags stopped being used? I'd forgotten all about them!