Would anyone take Harvey Elliott back if available?
Yes, he's a very talented footballer. I've no idea what's going on with him at Villa right now so that would be part of the due diligence. But this is never happening.
I'm not sure the club would welcome him back....Sess going & returning was very different - no fuss, all done very professionally
Quote from: bencher on December 02, 2025, 04:24:26 PMYes, he's a very talented footballer. I've no idea what's going on with him at Villa right now so that would be part of the due diligence. But this is never happening.
Agree, probably won't happen, but if available, I'd have him back, even though generally I'm not a big fan of bringing back players.
Interesting situation at Villa.Shows the potential snags for these conditional loan moves.
I believe that if he makes 10 appearences for Villa they have to buy him at season's end for £35million. He has currently made 5 apearences.
What seemed like good deal for Villa (he is a pretty good player), now seems not so good because of a number of possible reasons. One, or a combination of, a) he's not as good as they thought he was, b)they now think they have better answers in his position, c) they can't afford the agreed fee. If they starve him of appearences until January, Liverpool might agree to take him back.
I don't see how we would be involved in any of this. He's not going anywhere on a free.
No
Where would he play if he did sign
Quote from: Finnans Right Peg on December 02, 2025, 04:51:47 PMWhere would he play if he did sign
He could do a job in the role that Lukic plays (as a backup) or the one Iwobi is currently excelling in (again, as a backup, on current form).
He's good off the bench, and could be useful playing a role to unlock a goal if we needed one in the last 20 mins. But yeah, funny that he wouldn't be any closer to playing for us than he is for Villa.
Not that any of this would happen.
No
I don't think he's a lot better than what we already have . But it probably won't ever happen anyway .
It's clear Harvey and Fabio should've stuck around a bit longer, they have stalled.
Jao yes, Mitro yes, Fabio maybe, Gingernuts NO!
Not at all.
And if they're asking 35M for him, they can go do one, afaic, I'd rather have Roberts back!
not for me - especially with the talent that will be in front of him!
Long article on BBC Sport website explaining why it's all gone wrong for Elliott at Villa.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0q51l742lyo
Quote from: Ludlow Richard on December 03, 2025, 02:41:16 PMLong article on BBC Sport website explaining why it's all gone wrong for Elliott at Villa.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0q51l742lyo
Helpful link that explains he's already played for Liverpool and Villa this season, so a move for him in January isn't on the cards. He's good and with Liverpool not exactly pulling up trees, a switch back might suit all parties.
Quote from: Carborundum on December 03, 2025, 03:58:42 PMQuote from: Ludlow Richard on December 03, 2025, 02:41:16 PMLong article on BBC Sport website explaining why it's all gone wrong for Elliott at Villa.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0q51l742lyo
Helpful link that explains he's already played for Liverpool and Villa this season, so a move for him in January isn't on the cards. He's good and with Liverpool not exactly pulling up trees, a switch back might suit all parties.
Will the management and/or fans welcome him back? Let's not forget that part of the reason why Sess (and Palhinha) is so loved here is because he signed a new contract so that we could get the max transfer fee for him from Spurs, something neither Harvey Elliot nor Carvalho did.
I would have Harvey back
Imagine the goals a 6 ft 3+1⁄2 in (1.92 m) tall white invisible rabbit can score
Quote from: demeant0r on December 03, 2025, 04:45:39 PMQuote from: Carborundum on December 03, 2025, 03:58:42 PMQuote from: Ludlow Richard on December 03, 2025, 02:41:16 PMLong article on BBC Sport website explaining why it's all gone wrong for Elliott at Villa.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0q51l742lyo
Helpful link that explains he's already played for Liverpool and Villa this season, so a move for him in January isn't on the cards. He's good and with Liverpool not exactly pulling up trees, a switch back might suit all parties.
Will the management and/or fans welcome him back? Let's not forget that part of the reason why Sess (and Palhinha) is so loved here is because he signed a new contract so that we could get the max transfer fee for him from Spurs, something neither Harvey Elliot nor Carvalho did.
To be fair to Carvalho he could have well gone from us in January but stayed and performed admirably until the end of the season.
Quote from: sunburywhite on December 03, 2025, 05:39:57 PMI would have Harvey back
Imagine the goals a 6 ft 3+1⁄2 in (1.92 m) tall white invisible rabbit can score
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Quote from: Southcoastffc on December 03, 2025, 05:46:50 PMQuote from: demeant0r on December 03, 2025, 04:45:39 PMQuote from: Carborundum on December 03, 2025, 03:58:42 PMQuote from: Ludlow Richard on December 03, 2025, 02:41:16 PMLong article on BBC Sport website explaining why it's all gone wrong for Elliott at Villa.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0q51l742lyo
Helpful link that explains he's already played for Liverpool and Villa this season, so a move for him in January isn't on the cards. He's good and with Liverpool not exactly pulling up trees, a switch back might suit all parties.
Will the management and/or fans welcome him back? Let's not forget that part of the reason why Sess (and Palhinha) is so loved here is because he signed a new contract so that we could get the max transfer fee for him from Spurs, something neither Harvey Elliot nor Carvalho did.
To be fair to Carvalho he could have well gone from us in January but stayed and performed admirably until the end of the season.
I'm not sure that is entirely correct. He was still under contract, so he couldn't just leave surely. He could have signed a contract with a new club, with effect from the summer thoug I guess. Or am I missing something?
In any case, he was a huge part of our promotion and seemingly gave his all. Players are no more under an obligation to sign a contract than the club is to offer one. Both operate in a (mostly) free market. As long as a player gives his all for the club, and acts with decency, I wouldn't hold any grudges, the same as I wouldn't be mad at the club for not offering every player new contracts all the time.
Quote from: demeant0r on December 03, 2025, 04:45:39 PMQuote from: Carborundum on December 03, 2025, 03:58:42 PMQuote from: Ludlow Richard on December 03, 2025, 02:41:16 PMLong article on BBC Sport website explaining why it's all gone wrong for Elliott at Villa.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0q51l742lyo
Helpful link that explains he's already played for Liverpool and Villa this season, so a move for him in January isn't on the cards. He's good and with Liverpool not exactly pulling up trees, a switch back might suit all parties.
Will the management and/or fans welcome him back? Let's not forget that part of the reason why Sess (and Palhinha) is so loved here is because he signed a new contract so that we could get the max transfer fee for him from Spurs, something neither Harvey Elliot nor Carvalho did.
I don't know if Liverpool will welcome him back in January. A change of gaffer and they just might. He can't come here, because playing for three clubs in a season isn't allowed.
Quote from: Southcoastffc on December 03, 2025, 05:46:50 PMQuote from: demeant0r on December 03, 2025, 04:45:39 PMQuote from: Carborundum on December 03, 2025, 03:58:42 PMQuote from: Ludlow Richard on December 03, 2025, 02:41:16 PMLong article on BBC Sport website explaining why it's all gone wrong for Elliott at Villa.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0q51l742lyo
Helpful link that explains he's already played for Liverpool and Villa this season, so a move for him in January isn't on the cards. He's good and with Liverpool not exactly pulling up trees, a switch back might suit all parties.
Will the management and/or fans welcome him back? Let's not forget that part of the reason why Sess (and Palhinha) is so loved here is because he signed a new contract so that we could get the max transfer fee for him from Spurs, something neither Harvey Elliot nor Carvalho did.
To be fair to Carvalho he could have well gone from us in January but stayed and performed admirably until the end of the season.
Yeah, I'd have Carvalho back (as would Marco I'm sure) because he didn't throw his toys out the pram. And it's obviously not the only reason why Elliot gets the abuse he does from our fans but it's up there.
Quote from: Carborundum on December 03, 2025, 05:59:22 PMQuote from: demeant0r on December 03, 2025, 04:45:39 PMQuote from: Carborundum on December 03, 2025, 03:58:42 PMQuote from: Ludlow Richard on December 03, 2025, 02:41:16 PMLong article on BBC Sport website explaining why it's all gone wrong for Elliott at Villa.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0q51l742lyo
Helpful link that explains he's already played for Liverpool and Villa this season, so a move for him in January isn't on the cards. He's good and with Liverpool not exactly pulling up trees, a switch back might suit all parties.
Will the management and/or fans welcome him back? Let's not forget that part of the reason why Sess (and Palhinha) is so loved here is because he signed a new contract so that we could get the max transfer fee for him from Spurs, something neither Harvey Elliot nor Carvalho did.
I don't know if Liverpool will welcome him back in January. A change of gaffer and they just might. He can't come here, because playing for three clubs in a season isn't allowed.
Probably would take another manager but I can't see them sacking Slot soon.
Quote from: Sting of the North on December 03, 2025, 05:53:49 PMQuote from: Southcoastffc on December 03, 2025, 05:46:50 PMQuote from: demeant0r on December 03, 2025, 04:45:39 PMQuote from: Carborundum on December 03, 2025, 03:58:42 PMQuote from: Ludlow Richard on December 03, 2025, 02:41:16 PMLong article on BBC Sport website explaining why it's all gone wrong for Elliott at Villa.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0q51l742lyo
Helpful link that explains he's already played for Liverpool and Villa this season, so a move for him in January isn't on the cards. He's good and with Liverpool not exactly pulling up trees, a switch back might suit all parties.
Will the management and/or fans welcome him back? Let's not forget that part of the reason why Sess (and Palhinha) is so loved here is because he signed a new contract so that we could get the max transfer fee for him from Spurs, something neither Harvey Elliot nor Carvalho did.
To be fair to Carvalho he could have well gone from us in January but stayed and performed admirably until the end of the season.
I'm not sure that is entirely correct. He was still under contract, so he couldn't just leave surely. He could have signed a contract with a new club, with effect from the summer thoug I guess. Or am I missing something?
In any case, he was a huge part of our promotion and seemingly gave his all. Players are no more under an obligation to sign a contract than the club is to offer one. Both operate in a (mostly) free market. As long as a player gives his all for the club, and acts with decency, I wouldn't hold any grudges, the same as I wouldn't be mad at the club for not offering every player new contracts all the time.
But you have to admit that if a player, especially a youth prospect, signs a new contract that allows us to get more from them in a transfer that is more likely to make fans like him more.
Quote from: demeant0r on December 03, 2025, 06:03:29 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on December 03, 2025, 05:53:49 PMQuote from: Southcoastffc on December 03, 2025, 05:46:50 PMQuote from: demeant0r on December 03, 2025, 04:45:39 PMQuote from: Carborundum on December 03, 2025, 03:58:42 PMQuote from: Ludlow Richard on December 03, 2025, 02:41:16 PMLong article on BBC Sport website explaining why it's all gone wrong for Elliott at Villa.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0q51l742lyo
Helpful link that explains he's already played for Liverpool and Villa this season, so a move for him in January isn't on the cards. He's good and with Liverpool not exactly pulling up trees, a switch back might suit all parties.
Will the management and/or fans welcome him back? Let's not forget that part of the reason why Sess (and Palhinha) is so loved here is because he signed a new contract so that we could get the max transfer fee for him from Spurs, something neither Harvey Elliot nor Carvalho did.
To be fair to Carvalho he could have well gone from us in January but stayed and performed admirably until the end of the season.
I'm not sure that is entirely correct. He was still under contract, so he couldn't just leave surely. He could have signed a contract with a new club, with effect from the summer thoug I guess. Or am I missing something?
In any case, he was a huge part of our promotion and seemingly gave his all. Players are no more under an obligation to sign a contract than the club is to offer one. Both operate in a (mostly) free market. As long as a player gives his all for the club, and acts with decency, I wouldn't hold any grudges, the same as I wouldn't be mad at the club for not offering every player new contracts all the time.
But you have to admit that if a player, especially a youth prospect, signs a new contract that allows us to get more from them in a transfer that is more likely to make fans like him more.
Of course. But there is a difference between not "liking someone more" and disliking someone. In my book at least.